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What is your ideology?

What is your ideology?

  • Pan Islamism

  • Islamic Nationalism

  • Secular Nationalism

  • Communism

  • Other (please explain)


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Some PanIslamists I've seen want different countries in a federation or union. Others think nationalism is haram and want only one caliphate. Maybe I should have specified those two in the poll.

Some PanIslamists I've seen want different countries in a federation or union - This is because countries and nations are already formed and this was done by plan or by disagreements within Muslims. So its best to make a federation or union and keep everything the same. During the beginning of Islam we had Madina State, their was Iraq, Yemen, Shaam etc.

Others think nationalism is haram and want only one caliphate - Alot of these are western agents, they want to destroy the current countries, destroy the flags, army etc. What will this lead to? Destruction of the ummah and absolutely no benefit, it will send Muslims back 50 years. The union or federation can be also Islamic Caliphate and under it 57 Muslim states. All states will have own parliaments but Caliphate will have own parliament like in the EU. The islamist parties are mostly hijacked by the west agencies or they are just jahil. Otherwise the outcome of their plan will not lead to the destruction of the ummah ie like Yemen, Syria, Libya.
 
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seculerism all the way in everything . religion must be personal matter between god and human . state must be atheist and having no religion but humanism should be religion of state .
 
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The union or federation can be also Islamic Caliphate and under it 57 Muslim states. All states will have own parliaments but Caliphate will have own parliament like in the EU. The islamist parties are mostly hijacked by the west agencies or they are just jahil. Otherwise the outcome of their plan will not lead to the destruction of the ummah ie like Yemen, Syria, Libya.

If such an order existed, it would be easier for the West to penetrate Islam. Because instead of investing in dozens of different fake sheikhs or wing leaders in dozens of states, they should have bought fewer people with much less resources.

In short, the caliph you're talking about can kiss my ***. Because he'll probably be kissing the *** of an English queen, or a communist party leader, a bear, or at best, a Zionist.

Separate religion and state affairs and keep the sheikhs or mullahs away from politics. This is the best way...
 
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Hardcore Kufr
from stones to piss mate you have no ideology yours is stupidity! fk off to your shithole!
seculerism all the way in everything . religion must be personal matter between god and human . state must be atheist and having no religion but humanism should be religion of state .
respect your preference but what if religion is more humanistic than secularism? will you be okay with that?

see the issue is after Khilafat state started acting like moral police with state trying to control religious morality of people but rulers were .orally corrupt! and this hypocrisy presented a bad picture of Islamic system and people/muslim leaned more toward "secularism" but in todays world even the most securlar states are hypocrites so its hard to choose now!
If such an order existed, it would be easier for the West to penetrate Islam. Because instead of investing in dozens of different fake sheikhs or wing leaders in dozens of states, they should have bought fewer people with much less resources.

In short, the caliph you're talking about can kiss my ***. Because he'll probably be kissing the *** of an English queen, or a communist party leader, a bear, or at best, a Zionist.

Separate religion and state affairs and keep the sheikhs or mullahs away from politics. This is the best way...
our Mullahs are the most vile hypocrites alive and i really want 90% of such bastards to be hanged!

bastards sit on the throne of madrasas like kings and all they do is create braindead sheeps who follow their rules/laws and not rules/laws of Islam!
 
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The European Union has no religious basis at all. It is a community that shares a common geopolitical perspective and believes in common economic interests. The EU acquis is a comprehensive vision document from education to health, and its main purpose is to bring countries to these standards. It has legislative and executive branches. The parliament also works within its own borders by observing democratic rules.

What you call the caliphate is a completely different phenomenon and you cannot set it up in accordance with the EU ideal. Because the EU mechanism is existentially not suitable for such a leadership.

The caliphate is in the past. Islam is our common religion, no one has a problem with it. But Islam alone cannot bring us together as we create our own vision of a common, just and strong union.

If your only common denominator is Islam, you will find nothing but betrayal and intrigue there. See: OIC
 
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Whatever our founding fathers Jinnah and Iqbal wanted
Islamic nationalsim, secularism whatever

I'll blindly follow them and Thier ideology
But agreeing on what they wanted is the tricky part
 
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Mao was good for leader for China, he is solely the reason why China sored so high.

Pakistan needs to prioritize education as we have low literacy.

Women empowerment comes in the form of education and healthcare.

Make smaller provinces.

All should be done in the frame of Islam
If such an order existed, it would be easier for the West to penetrate Islam. Because instead of investing in dozens of different fake sheikhs or wing leaders in dozens of states, they should have bought fewer people with much less resources.

In short, the caliph you're talking about can kiss my ***. Because he'll probably be kissing the *** of an English queen, or a communist party leader, a bear, or at best, a Zionist.

Separate religion and state affairs and keep the sheikhs or mullahs away from politics. This is the best way...

I will also put along with Mao, Attaturk did a lot of great things for Turkey. Although some may disagree with his views on Islam, you have to point out that he laid the framework for Turkey to excel. Just compare Turkey to the rest of the Muslim world.
 
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I will also put along with Mao, Attaturk did a lot of great things for Turkey. Although some may disagree with his views on Islam, you have to point out that he laid the framework for Turkey to excel. Just compare Turkey to the rest of the Muslim world.
Atatürk was a realist politician, not a day-dreamer. How many independent Islamic countries were there in 1920 that the caliphate would be able to develop initiatives outside of the influence of the victors of the world war...

Those who accuse Atatürk of opposing religion, unfortunately, don't want to talk about: he actually had a reformist understanding(after traditional ottomanic order collapse), that he had many studies for a better understanding of the religion of Islam among the Turks, and that how he was an enlightened person who had plans on how we could compete with developed countries as soon as possible.

Think a new born state, which was emerged after completely shattered empire and took over all the debts of this collapsed empire, its people start over after the loss of millions of lives, 50 years of uninterrupted warfare and the country's infrastructure was largely destroyed. This new 15 million country was in a position to sell aircraft to Europe, in just 15 years. See:Nuri Demirağ, Vecihi Hürkuş. What happened after Atatürk died, especially after the 1950s, is another story entirely. But Atatürk's vision were definitely the roadmap for the breakthrough we needed at that time.
 
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Well Mr Jinnah said
Islamic socialism focus on social justice
in this video- islamic welfare state
That means our literacy rate should be next level, free education, better healthcare facilities etc, land reforms
We have literally wild west type situation out here with so much land that can be used and given to people for cheap

So A- end the roles of Vadera farmers, start making canals in Balochistan, KPK, SP, parts of Sindh and increase your population by giving land (owned by gov like china) for dirt cheap prices
we still have a lot of unused land still available


This is what we need to work on

But with everything
What kind of Islam he wanted in a state?, We should look at his governor general years
Was he thinks about a constitution?, What were his plans?
I think we are not bad as we have a court that can veto any law considered un islamic
I think this is good, we are a pretty isalmic nation within the scope of a modern nation
 
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Respectism
Decencysm
Pragmatism
LearnMoreism
EatMoreism
Alcoholism
 
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My Ideology depends on who I am currently trolling.
 
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Islam, my identity my religion, my ideology, my everything has Islam leading the way... Countries are created and destroyed, so does borders but Islam pre-exists, Islam exists and Islam will exists long after Pakistan, UK , America or any other country will cease to exists.
 
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