Hajj stampede beyond human control, 'destiny is inevitable', says top Saudi cleric

[I M Sikander]

hi retarded boy read before posting.
i said IT DOES MATTER gey some idiot

lol you are an idiot al saud is an Arab and a tribe (anizy) which is thousand years old. keep parking you cant change shit.

You are some idiot by birth i think, for whom the saudi royal family is the only arab left in the world.
Try to get over your slavery of royal family.

 

[I M Sikander]

Well, if people have issues/problems with the way Saudi Arabia runs its internal Affairs then don't go there. Problem solved.D

Vow amazingly stupid solution.

In short, saudi will continue with their criminal negligence in hajj operations and it should be the poor pilgrims who should be ready to die or they better dont perform hajj.

You just make the day for all saudi sheikhs.

 

[I M Sikander]

Poor pilgrims.
I wish some muslim country has the gutts to ask the saudis gov. Regarding the tragic death of their Pilgrims.

Had there been any single person from saudi royal family among these martyrs. The king must have killed all those involved in the hajj operations.

 

[Azadkashmir]

in islam we not suppose to have visa to go mecca and south Asians are treated like dogs anyway. Saudi just eat the money and buy yachts the size of warship and plenty of cocaine and halal prostitute.

in islam we not suppose to have visa to go mecca and south Asians are treated like dogs anyway. Saudi just eat the money and buy yachts the size of warship and plenty of cocaine and halal prostitute.

 

[Azadkashmir]

450 million arabs all divided no decent military or military industrial complex. all that oil for what, nothing but a curse.

 

[Desert Fox]

Man some people have no shame, using this situation as an opportunity to vent their personal frustration at a specific group of people.

Pakistani liberals are nothing but keyboard warriors only capable of talking big behind the computer screen. Can't do sh!t in real life.

 

[Jf Thunder]

not your call and it is not your business

it is, if he is a Muslim

 

[jamahir]

all divided no decent military or military industrial complex.

not true... old iraq, syria, libya, egypt, algeria ( though i don't know if @Ceylal sees his country in the arab bloc - progressive arab bloc among the countries in mentioned ).

 

[Ceylal]

Since we can't show picture of the senseless massacre caused by the MOD saudi caravan, accompagened by 300 bodygards, a corps of SF, police...the dead bodies were stacked like a watermelon stall..Just picture each watermelon , a dead body!
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[jamahir]

it is, if he is a Muslim

indeed.

and which should hasten the removal of hajj management ( in its entirety ) from saudi hands into a pan-global muslim committee made up of progressive people... no mullah-priest, no builder of vulgar tall clock towers.

also, hajj has become obscene with everyone wanting to grab some magic... people have been coming in astounding numbers every year in modern times... therefore the numbers should be limited drastically and no repeat hajis.

 

[Jf Thunder]

indeed.

and which should hasten the removal of hajj management ( in its entirety ) from saudi hands into a pan-global muslim committee made up of progressive people... no mullah-priest, no builder of vulgar tall clock towers.

also, hajj has become obscene with everyone wanting to grab some magic... people have been coming in astounding numbers every year in modern times... therefore the numbers should be limited drastically and no repeat hajis.

that is a very serious matter, in which the current committee should also look into, a Mullah family freind of ours, does Hajj every single year, and says that he will continue it for his entire life, i must ask how many Hajj's did our Holy Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W.W) perform?

 

[Hussein]

what does Assad have to do with this are you mentally ill or just blabbering rubbish.
as i told you we don't need your help or any other .our country our rules go cry and lash yourself in karbla

i don't practice the stupid lashing stuff . thx.
you don't seem to be smart to understand what i mean: you say "that was the god will" it is such stupid statement
that we can say "it is god will" for everything then in the world happening. included the most horrible things.
if such terrible things happen, don't try to get it with a god will you didn't need to go so far away from human beings attitudes

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

Hajj stampede caused by Iranian pilgrims “not following instructions”: Hajj mission official

A group of around 300 Iranian pilgrims did not wait for clearance to leave Jamarat

Street 204 in Mina, east of the holy city of Mecca, Saudi Arabia, where a stampede killed hundreds of pilgrims on September 24, 2015. (Asharq Al-Awsat)

Mina, Asharq Al-Awsat—The Hajj tragedy that has left hundreds of people dead and injured was caused by a group of Iranian pilgrims who failed to follow instructions from Hajj authorities, an official from Iran’s Hajj mission has revealed.
At least 717 pilgrims were killed and 863 injured on Thursday when two large groups of people collided at a crossroads in Mina, east of the Muslim holy city of Mecca, the Saudi interior ministry said.

The official, who requested anonymity to discuss the issue, said the accident occurred after a group of around 300 Iranian pilgrims failed to follow orders requiring them to wait for clearance to leave Jamarat—the site where pilgrims perform the “stoning the devil” ritual.

Instead, the group went back to their mission’s headquarters as other groups were on their way to the site as scheduled, according to the official.

“The group stopped for a while, causing the coming pilgrims to take a route no more than 20 meters wide,” he said, adding that such behavior often leads to tragic consequences in crowded areas.

The Iranian pilgrims were scheduled to leave Jamarat hours after the accident took place, the official said.

Meanwhile, a Saudi security source said authorities may check security cameras installed in the tunnel leading to Jamarat to verify when the Iranian group left the site.

Saudi Arabia’s King Salman Bin Abdulaziz on Thursday offered his condolences to the families of the victims and promised that “the improvement of the methods and mechanisms of the Hajj season will not stop.”

The majority of eyewitnesses who spoke to Asharq Al-Awsat agreed that the crush occurred after pilgrims “failed to follow orders from security.”

Yahia Hamida, a 26-year-old pilgrim from Jordan, told Asharq Al-Awsat that “an unusual mass of pilgrims congregated on Street 204 [that leads to Jamarat] after some entered the wrong lane.”

“Movement on Street 204 was normal until a large number of pilgrims came in the opposite direction, which stopped movement for about an hour and a half before the elderly began to collapse,” another pilgrim said.

Saudi interior ministry has said investigations into the causes of the tragic stampede were underway and that “high temperature and tiredness” contributed to the accident.

Ibrahim Al-Qurashi contributed additional reporting from Mina
Hajj stampede caused by Iranian pilgrims “not following instructions”: Hajj mission official

 

[Madali]

Hajj stampede caused by Iranian pilgrims “not following instructions”: Hajj mission official

A group of around 300 Iranian pilgrims did not wait for clearance to leave Jamarat

Street 204 in Mina, east of the holy city of Mecca, Saudi Arabia, where a stampede killed hundreds of pilgrims on September 24, 2015. (Asharq Al-Awsat)

Mina, Asharq Al-Awsat—The Hajj tragedy that has left hundreds of people dead and injured was caused by a group of Iranian pilgrims who failed to follow instructions from Hajj authorities, an official from Iran’s Hajj mission has revealed.
At least 717 pilgrims were killed and 863 injured on Thursday when two large groups of people collided at a crossroads in Mina, east of the Muslim holy city of Mecca, the Saudi interior ministry said.

The official, who requested anonymity to discuss the issue, said the accident occurred after a group of around 300 Iranian pilgrims failed to follow orders requiring them to wait for clearance to leave Jamarat—the site where pilgrims perform the “stoning the devil” ritual.

Instead, the group went back to their mission’s headquarters as other groups were on their way to the site as scheduled, according to the official.

“The group stopped for a while, causing the coming pilgrims to take a route no more than 20 meters wide,” he said, adding that such behavior often leads to tragic consequences in crowded areas.

The Iranian pilgrims were scheduled to leave Jamarat hours after the accident took place, the official said.

Meanwhile, a Saudi security source said authorities may check security cameras installed in the tunnel leading to Jamarat to verify when the Iranian group left the site.

Saudi Arabia’s King Salman Bin Abdulaziz on Thursday offered his condolences to the families of the victims and promised that “the improvement of the methods and mechanisms of the Hajj season will not stop.”

The majority of eyewitnesses who spoke to Asharq Al-Awsat agreed that the crush occurred after pilgrims “failed to follow orders from security.”

Yahia Hamida, a 26-year-old pilgrim from Jordan, told Asharq Al-Awsat that “an unusual mass of pilgrims congregated on Street 204 [that leads to Jamarat] after some entered the wrong lane.”

“Movement on Street 204 was normal until a large number of pilgrims came in the opposite direction, which stopped movement for about an hour and a half before the elderly began to collapse,” another pilgrim said.

Saudi interior ministry has said investigations into the causes of the tragic stampede were underway and that “high temperature and tiredness” contributed to the accident.

Ibrahim Al-Qurashi contributed additional reporting from Mina
Hajj stampede caused by Iranian pilgrims “not following instructions”: Hajj mission official

God forbid anyone in Saudi ever consider that they might have any fault. It is either Africans, or Iranians, or the heat, or unavoidable, or just God's will.

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

God forbid anyone in Saudi ever consider that they might have any fault. It is either Africans, or Iranians, or the heat, or unavoidable, or just God's will.

Nobody said it's Africans. Iranian Haj oficial as well as eye witnesses confirmed that 300 Iranians ignored the instructions which caused the tragedy. That's why the majority of the casualties are Iranians.