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Okay please dont call me an Indian with fake account bcz em a Pakistani Guy with some questions.
So what really makes ISI in the top Intel Agencies??
What have ISI done in the last 15 Years?
Now please dnt mention Trainibg Mujahideens blah blah because it was not done for the advantage of Pakistan.Saudis dollars workrd for zia.
I was a big fan of ISI but not anymore...
Okay lets think what have they done in the last 5 years? Please dont say that their hands are tied and politicians dont let them work etc...everyone knows who work above the politicians.ISI is not so innocent that they couldnt work under such conditions.
Another excuse People give is about missing persons that ISI kidnap them and execute them.Oh Please! I never saw that Malik Ishaq is kidbapped? Aurangzeb Farooqui,Ahmed Ludhianvi and etc...And even ex ISI chief Hamid Gul Keeps Praises them.Ever ISI have arrested any Sectarian Terrorist? Even One??!!
 
most people give answer to this.
They keep India busy. But by this they have invited thousand problems to them....failure bangladesh mission,taliban, balouchistan etc..
 
Do you know what they are supposed to do in first place?

and BTW, who is doing the ranking of secret agencies? ISI is top, who is at middle, bottom?

Our Pakistanis keep saying it
 
Do you know what they are supposed to do in first place?

and BTW, who is doing the ranking of secret agencies? ISI is top, who is at middle, bottom?

Our Pakistanis keep saying it
 
CIA has a budget,bigger than Pakistan's national budget.

ISI is not the best,as there is no means to accurately 'rank' intel agencies.

"Track record" is the only measurement often used and ISI has a recognizeable track record.

Yes,they have arrested thousands of Terrorists,however your 'free courts' ... Free them out of fear...or incompetence...

The question you should be asking boy,is 'how many' terrorists have been tried and punished by our 'free courts'.
 
I think our failure in the war on terror has taught us that the ISI is far from perfect. ISI has many flaws and we should be asking the question what have they done in the past 10-15 years which is so remarkable. Their performance against the terrorists has been really weak.

I don't understand what the difficulty is in eliminating these terrorist groups with such an advanced military. Somebody should be held accountable for the daily losses we suffer in the war on terror.
 
CIA has a budget,bigger than Pakistan's national budget.

ISI is not the best,as there is no means to accurately 'rank' intel agencies.

"Track record" is the only measurement often used and ISI has a recognizeable track record.

Yes,they have arrested thousands of Terrorists,however your 'free courts' ... Free them out of fear...or incompetence...

The question you should be asking boy,is 'how many' terrorists have been tried and punished by our 'free courts'.

okay tell me if they have evr arrested any terrorist rather thrn BLA operstives and Al Qaeda Operatives when Mush Forced Them.Have they ever arrested any Single Lashkar e Jhangvi or Sipah e Sahaba Terrorist??
Dont make people fool.Everyday Blasts happens and there comes a Phone Call From TTP or LEJ spokrsman ... Is This Geo News?
Reciever: Yes.
Spokesman: Oh Hi...!! Today i killed some People so wanted to share it...
Reciever: Thanks.

Is ISI so weak that they cant trace the Phone Calls of Ahsanullah Ahsan or Lej Spokesman?
Oh i think free courts have sent virus to ISI computers.
 
I think our failure in the war on terror has taught us that the ISI is far from perfect. ISI has many flaws and we should be asking the question what have they done in the past 10-15 years which is so remarkable. Their performance against the terrorists has been really weak.

I don't understand what the difficulty is in eliminating these terrorist groups with such an advanced military. Somebody should be held accountable for the daily losses we suffer in the war on terror.

Bro their own Generals attend function with malik ishaq and ahmed ludhianvi.o why would they arrest thm??
#Hamid Gul in Difa e Pakistan.
 
And why arrest them? Just kill them.skip the procesd of courts.
Ecen i know where is the HQ of Sipah e Sahaba in Karachi.making the nation fool.
 
Oo Chotay tank bahi sahib .. you are new here .. please do a little research before you start a thread , you should know the jurisdiction of agencies & what they are suppose to do .. 90% things you siad are the job of Police , IB or FIA .. not ISI ( it is though unfortunate that ISI has to do it ) .

as long as independent action goes .. you have sen the monkey courts of Pakistan giving orders & blaming ISI for all that is wrong with Pakistan ..
 
Oo Chotay tank bahi sahib .. you are new here .. please do a little research before you start a thread , you should know the jurisdiction of agencies & what they are suppose to do .. 90% things you siad are the job of Police , IB or FIA .. not ISI ( it is though unfortunate that ISI has to do it ) .

as long as independent action goes .. you have sen the monkey courts of Pakistan giving orders & blaming ISI for all that is wrong with Pakistan ..


CIA has a budget,bigger than Pakistan's national budget.

ISI is not the best,as there is no means to accurately 'rank' intel agencies.

"Track record" is the only measurement often used and ISI has a recognizeable track record.

Yes,they have arrested thousands of Terrorists,however your 'free courts' ... Free them out of fear...or incompetence...

The question you should be asking boy,is 'how many' terrorists have been tried and punished by our 'free courts'.

I am the son of a murdered judge

By Muhammad Saad Khan

Published: July 1, 2013


My father, Muhammad Jamshed Jadoon, was posted as a judge of the newly-established Anti-terrorism Court (ATC) in Gilgit, in 2005, by the orders of the prime minister secretariat. In fact, based on national interest, he had volunteered for the position when nobody was willing to do the same due to insecurity and the uphill task of establishing an ATC in Gilgit, which would have been the first of its kind. Sadly, after serving for more than 11 months in June 2006, he was murdered in a public park in broad daylight.

The accused was convicted by my father for the burning of a police station, following which he was jailed. However, he was facilitated from the jail by the police, which is when he committed the crime of murdering Jamshed Jadoon and was subsequently handed down a death sentence by the ATC. In the meanwhile, many high-profile politicians and religo-sectarian parties approached our family with their various offers of pardon on behalf of the convict, but we refused to accept all the offers and stood firm on our stance for due process of law and justice to be served.

Now, we have come to know that the accused has, once again, been let out of prison and this time, to find his way out of the country and out of the reach of the law. We can’t help but feel stupid for relying and trusting the judicial system for justice.
The question that arises is, if a judge of the ATC cannot receive justice in this country, how can ordinary citizens? If the state cannot protect its own custodians, how will it protect its citizens? People from Gilgit state that when we refused the offer of religo-sectarian parties, a deal was struck with the help of our own “security agencies”.

The family was kept in the dark for six months about this whole event until news reached us through intermediate channels. Now, we are told that it is an open and shut case since the accomplices — who could have assisted and usually belong to the police department — who help such criminals escape have been handed down sentences of 12 years to life imprisonment. Besides, who can guarantee that they will not be freed or their sentences commuted at a later stage.


Finally, I have come to the conclusion that there is, in fact, no system of justice in Pakistan. If there is, it is for the facilitation of the ruling class or the US. It reminds me of how a mockery was made of the whole judicial system when Raymond Davis was escorted free from the courts within hours and through legal process. While the same process, for an ordinary citizen, requires a long span of time stretching to months and years. This is the reality of our judicial system.

My family and I have few options. We can either get into negotiations to no avail, accept blood money and forget the whole fiasco ever happened or we can simply pick up a gun and get justice for ourselves — the latter we won’t do. In the absence of the state, there are very few legal options for a family seeking justice in this land. It makes one wonder why the criminal is so strong in this country and the toiling, honest ordinary man so weak?

Published in The Express Tribune, July 2nd, 2013.
 
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