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ISI - a big failure?

I have read the progress of ISI throughout and i reach at the riverbank to attend the result as ISI gain too much failure to save the interest of Pakistan..
Dont Ask About How.....???
Coz Some thing best in kept..
 
'Huge-success' ? I disagree. 'Failure' ? I disagree too.

That a country's media is funded by the US, and airs shows against the country isn't the hallmark of a great intelligence agency. One of the roles of such an agency is to make sure the country has a good name, with it out of the news, and not a bad one with the agency in the news
 
آئی ایس آئی ہمارا قابل فخر ادارہ ہے اور اسکی قربانیاں ، خدمات اور پاکستان کے لیے اسکی اہمیت کسی سے ڈھکی چپھی نہیں ہے !!
اس میں بھی کوئی شک نہیں کہ آئی ایس آئی اس وقت چومکھی لڑائی لڑ رہی ہے ملک کے اندر بھی اور باہر بھی ۔۔۔۔ اور بیک وقت کئی محاذوں پر دنیا کی نہایت طاقتور خفیہ ایجنسیوں سے برسرپیکار ہے ۔۔۔۔۔۔!!!
کل حامد میر کا پروگرام دیکھا زید حامد کے خلاف ۔۔۔۔۔۔ زید حامد اچھا یا برا ایک الگ بحث ہے لیکن اس پروگرام میں ایک دلچسپ چیز دیکھنے کو یہ ملی کہ زید حامد کو آئی ایس آئی کا ایجنٹ ثابت کیا جا رہا تھا اور اس بات کو ایک جرم کی طرح پیش کیا جا رہا تھا ۔۔۔۔۔۔!!
اس بات سے قطع نظر کہ زید حامد آئی ایس آئی کا ایجنٹ ہے یا نہیں سوال یہ پیدا ہوتا ہے کہ زید حامد یا کسی بھی شخص کا آئی ایس آئی کا ایجنٹ ہونا پاکستان کے اندر کیسے جرم ہوگیا ؟؟۔۔۔۔۔۔
کیا ہم بلکل ہی احمق ہو گئے ہیں ؟؟
دنیا بھر کی خفیہ ایجنسیاں ایجنٹوں پر ہی چلتی ہیں وہ ایجنٹ اس ملک کا اثاثہ ہوتے ہیں ۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ معاملہ تب خراب ہوتا ہے جب آپ کے ملک کے اندر کوئی شخص کسی غیر ملکی ایجنسی کا ایجنٹ ثابت ہو جائے جیسا کہ آجکل کی میڈیا پر تقریباً ثابت ہو چکا ہے کہ وہ چند مخصوص مقاصد کی تکمیل کے لیے غیروں کی ایجنٹی کر رہی ہے!
ہمیں ھوش کے ناخن لینے چاہئیں ۔۔۔۔۔ اور اس بات پر بھی ضرور غور کرنا چاہئے کہ کسی شخص کے لیے آئی ایس آئی اس قدر قابل نفرت کیوں ہے صرف یہی بات اسکی اپنی حب لوطنی پر بے شمار سوالات کو جنم دیتی ہے ۔۔۔۔!!(muje ISI se piyar , or mujhe fakhar he k me pakistani ho or ALLAH k bad mere mulk ki hifazat karne me ISI jesi kabil-e-fakhar agency apna kirdar ada kar rahi he.
 
Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) may have successfully penetrated the database of state-owned Bharat Sanchar Nigam Ltd (BSNL) and also installed spyware in the telco’s systems, India’s interior ministry fears, according to documents reviewed by Mint.

Posing as Major Vijay from Indian Army headquarters, Pakistani intelligence officers had called up a BSNL employee in February this year, and followed it up by email communication with the staffer to obtain critical information. The home ministry is of the view that this email communication led to the ISI successfully installing malware on BSNL’s networks, and this may have “contaminated the telco’s computer systems and compromised the integrity and security of the system”.
The home ministry is worried that the spyware may enable Pakistan’s ISI to “identify and access communication links of sensitive organizations”, making the latter vulnerable to cyber attacks.
The documents show that the home ministry also fears that the alleged spyware will enable Pakistan to remotely monitor BSNL’s networks and operations, providing the ISI with the capability of disabling critical networks.

India’s Intelligence Bureau (IB) referred to this incident in a 22 July note. The incident itself took place on 19 February and IB briefed the Prime Minister’s Office, the cabinet secretary, the ministries of home, telecom and IT and external affairs as well as the country’s elite external intelligence agency, the Research and Analysis Wing (RAW), of this development on 25 February.
The mode of operation was as follows. ISI spoofed a landline number (011-23016782) so that the call would appear to originate from Indian Army HQ in Delhi, and called up a BSNL executive on his mobile phone.

Posing as Major Vijay, the ISI officer claimed that the Indian Army was unable to access BSNL’s subscriber base from its website, and also sent the BSNL employee a “test mail” on his Gmail address. The BSNL employee replied to this email by sending three online links, believing that he was helping the Army. The ISI officers then got back claiming they were unable to open the links. Besides, they (ISI) sent some links to the BSNL employee who opened the same on his computer thus enabling the Pakistani agency to allegedly install the malware in the state-owned telco’s systems. The BSNL employee also offered to forward the telephone numbers of technical staff handling its call data records project in Chandigarh, Hyderabad, Pune and Kolkata.

IB briefed BSNL’s chairman and managing director Rakesh Upadhyay on this incident and asked the telco to identify and remove the alleged spyware from its systems, in addition to asking the company to initiate action against the employee.The BSNL CMD didn’t respond to calls.
To be sure, this is IB’s version of events. Mint couldn’t independently confirm any of the details, including the claim that the call came from ISI.

BSNL’s networks are of strategic importance to India. The state-owned entity is building an alternative communication network for the armed forces, the completion of which will result in the Army, Air Force and Navy vacating additional spectrum for commercial mobile telephony, and routing their communications through this wireline system.BSNL and Mahanagar Telephone Nigam Ltd (MTNL) are also operating and maintaining the secure network that they are currently building to link all government departments in the country. This network, which will connect about 5,000 government departments when completed, is aimed at ensuring confidentiality of all official communication.

Besides, BSNL’s networks also link the servers of private mobile phone companies to the upcoming Centralized Monitoring System (CMS), a surveillance platform that will enable the government to monitor all forms of communication from emails to online activity to phone calls, text messages and faxes among others. Experts see the breach as yet another incident of social engineering posing a threat to corporations and sensitive data.

“Social engineering techniques allow a lot of access if an employee is not made aware and trained to screen calls and handle sensitive data properly. Hackers have been able to get blueprints and sensitive data successfully through social engineering, which is made easier nowadays with people not caring about their privacy and personal data available in the public domain in social media sites,” said Shree Parthasarathy, executive director, enterprise risk services, Deloitte. “Another challenge is the classification of data. If there was a standard process then I’m sure the breach would have been caught. It’s relatively easy to solve but poses a major threat at the present time.”

Shauvik Ghosh in New Delhi contributed to this story.

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Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) may have successfully penetrated the database of state-owned Bharat Sanchar Nigam Ltd (BSNL) and also installed spyware in the telco’s systems, India’s interior ministry fears, according to documents reviewed by Mint.

Posing as Major Vijay from Indian Army headquarters, Pakistani intelligence officers had called up a BSNL employee in February this year, and followed it up by email communication with the staffer to obtain critical information. The home ministry is of the view that this email communication led to the ISI successfully installing malware on BSNL’s networks, and this may have “contaminated the telco’s computer systems and compromised the integrity and security of the system”.
The home ministry is worried that the spyware may enable Pakistan’s ISI to “identify and access communication links of sensitive organizations”, making the latter vulnerable to cyber attacks.
The documents show that the home ministry also fears that the alleged spyware will enable Pakistan to remotely monitor BSNL’s networks and operations, providing the ISI with the capability of disabling critical networks.

India’s Intelligence Bureau (IB) referred to this incident in a 22 July note. The incident itself took place on 19 February and IB briefed the Prime Minister’s Office, the cabinet secretary, the ministries of home, telecom and IT and external affairs as well as the country’s elite external intelligence agency, the Research and Analysis Wing (RAW), of this development on 25 February.
The mode of operation was as follows. ISI spoofed a landline number (011-23016782) so that the call would appear to originate from Indian Army HQ in Delhi, and called up a BSNL executive on his mobile phone.

Posing as Major Vijay, the ISI officer claimed that the Indian Army was unable to access BSNL’s subscriber base from its website, and also sent the BSNL employee a “test mail” on his Gmail address. The BSNL employee replied to this email by sending three online links, believing that he was helping the Army. The ISI officers then got back claiming they were unable to open the links. Besides, they (ISI) sent some links to the BSNL employee who opened the same on his computer thus enabling the Pakistani agency to allegedly install the malware in the state-owned telco’s systems. The BSNL employee also offered to forward the telephone numbers of technical staff handling its call data records project in Chandigarh, Hyderabad, Pune and Kolkata.

IB briefed BSNL’s chairman and managing director Rakesh Upadhyay on this incident and asked the telco to identify and remove the alleged spyware from its systems, in addition to asking the company to initiate action against the employee.The BSNL CMD didn’t respond to calls.
To be sure, this is IB’s version of events. Mint couldn’t independently confirm any of the details, including the claim that the call came from ISI.

BSNL’s networks are of strategic importance to India. The state-owned entity is building an alternative communication network for the armed forces, the completion of which will result in the Army, Air Force and Navy vacating additional spectrum for commercial mobile telephony, and routing their communications through this wireline system.BSNL and Mahanagar Telephone Nigam Ltd (MTNL) are also operating and maintaining the secure network that they are currently building to link all government departments in the country. This network, which will connect about 5,000 government departments when completed, is aimed at ensuring confidentiality of all official communication.

Besides, BSNL’s networks also link the servers of private mobile phone companies to the upcoming Centralized Monitoring System (CMS), a surveillance platform that will enable the government to monitor all forms of communication from emails to online activity to phone calls, text messages and faxes among others. Experts see the breach as yet another incident of social engineering posing a threat to corporations and sensitive data.

“Social engineering techniques allow a lot of access if an employee is not made aware and trained to screen calls and handle sensitive data properly. Hackers have been able to get blueprints and sensitive data successfully through social engineering, which is made easier nowadays with people not caring about their privacy and personal data available in the public domain in social media sites,” said Shree Parthasarathy, executive director, enterprise risk services, Deloitte. “Another challenge is the classification of data. If there was a standard process then I’m sure the breach would have been caught. It’s relatively easy to solve but poses a major threat at the present time.”

Shauvik Ghosh in New Delhi contributed to this story.

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aray bhai janey bhi doo, yar!
post delete kar doo, uncle jee, saray kam par pani tu naa daloo?
 
The conventional army will only be at war when the nation has declared war

The ISI/agencies (military & civvy) like most of today's conventional intel agencies - especially one in a geo politically challenging environment - is constantly at war. 365-24-7

Win some, stale mate/contain some, lose some.

"Good, but certainly not God"
 
I feel some guys within ISI and army are leaking info to TTP. Think about the attack on army conveys, they are always successful. Taliban are already waiting for army convey and have already chosen best spot to launch attack. The attack on major general is also fishy, it seems fazullah's men were given tip by some one within army.
A check should be kept on pashtun and south punjab's faujis. Taliban are not tribesmen of british times, they are much advanced beyond that who works on the basis of ideology rather than tribalism and has many friends from religous circles of pakistan.
 
I feel some guys within ISI and army are leaking info to TTP. Think about the attack on army conveys, they are always successful. Taliban are already waiting for army convey and have already chosen best spot to launch attack. The attack on major general is also fishy, it seems fazullah's men were given tip by some one within army.
A check should be kept on pashtun and south punjab's faujis. Taliban are not tribesmen of british times, they are much advanced beyond that who works on the basis of ideology rather than tribalism and has many friends from religous circles of pakistan.


given how much conviction you speak with -- seems you have some "intelligence" of your own which you have to divulge


so divulge away!!! :laugh:
 
The Inter Services Intelligence agency of Pakistan has been ranked the number one secret organization in the world for many years.
It has maintained its rank since the soviet Afghan war and still fighting Cow pi.ss drinker Indians, playing double & some times triple games with USA and at the same time fighting internal and external forces of evil.
ISI was created in 1948 and since then it has maintained an excellent record.
CIA, MOSAD, FSB of Russia, MI6 of UK, RAW of India they are all just inspired by its capabilities and ISI plays double games with all of the mentioned organizations.
At the same time it also plays games with Al-Qaida and Talibans.
It was formed to secure and strengthen the country’s foundation and it has done that and still doing the job more than any other organization.

ISI has achieved various goals especially in operations of Afghanistan, Siachin, Kargil War and Kashmir Front, weapons of mass destruction etc.
The institution works in a well-organized constitutional and legal framework outside the control of Ganja Sharif or stupid Zordari and under the control of Cheif of army staff and army.
It is working efficiently to protect the country from national and international terrorist activities.
 
The Inter Services Intelligence agency of Pakistan has been ranked the number one secret organization in the world for many years.
It has maintained its rank since the soviet Afghan war and still fighting Cow pi.ss drinker Indians, playing double some times triple games with USA and at the same time fighting internal and external forces of evil.
ISI was created in 1948 and since then it has maintained and excellent record.
CIA, MOSAD, FSB of Russia, MI6 of UK, RAW of India they are all just inspired by its capabilities and ISI plays double games with all of the mentioned organizations.
At the same time it also plays games with Alqayeda and Talibans.
It was formed to secure and strengthen the country’s foundation and it has done that and still doing the job more then any other organization.
The headquarters of the ISI are located at Shahrah-e-Soharwardi in the capital Islamabad don't ever go there or you'll be tranported to the moon for the rest of your life.....lol
ISI has achieved various goals especially in operations of Afghanistan, Siachin, Kargil War and Kashmir Front, weapons of mass distruction etc.
The institution works in a well-organized constitutional and legal framework outside the control of Ganja Sharif or stupid Zordari. It is working efficiently to protect the country from national and international terrorist activities and accept it.

NO Wonder ISI Couldnt Inform of OBL Raid.
 
NO Wonder ISI Couldnt Inform of OBL Raid.
My friend OBL Raid was also a game, he was long dead and when required his corpse was used to re elect Obama again into presidency.
That OBL Raid was a technological victory for US, it was not an intelligence failure our radars didn't detected the low RCS hellis and microwave noise jammers where extensively used.
My friend those are very large games and we public don't know any thing about such games.
 
My friend OBL Raid was also a game, he was long dead and when required his corpse was used to re elect Obama again into presidency.
That OBL Raid was a technological victory for US, it was not an intelligence failure our radars didn't detected the low RCS hellis and microwave noise jammers where extensively used.
My friend those are very large games and we public don't know any thing about such games.

I like your Note. But it IS Contradictory.

How Can you Say OBL was Long Dead, If a Commoner makes a Statement like this I would say, its Hitting in Air

Job of Intel is To Dig out Info...Regardless of RADARs working or Not.

If ISI was that Good then they should have been able to save Gen Zia Ul Haqe
If ISI was that Good it should have sounded an ALARM prior to POKHARAN -II Tests.

Gentlemen its Good To be Patriotic but Too Much Aint Good.
 
At any given time ISI is fighting with 3 best agencies of the world which are CIA, MOSSAD and RAW.
TTP and other evils are also an element which are supported by CIA MOSSAD and RAW and ISI defends the nations against them all.

Only best of the best can do that. :sniper:
 

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