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Owners Pride - The Killer : IAF Su - 30 MKI

Here i am not for trolling
if want to start trolling ????
trolling or no trolling who cares bring it on ;)

thing is PAF evry vell know that it as of now has no answer to indian MKis and if that wasnt enof there F16 fleet is almost obsolete and under severe flight ristriction deu to lack of feul and spares + the most potent F16s they have to counter MKis are not even three 18 Blk 52s+(42+13second and third hand MLUs) full squads and even those are bugged by the americans :)

on the other side of border they have 5+2 full squads of latest MKis + 3 squads of upgraded Mig 29s & M2Ks backed by same ammount of bisons and jags

so in short PAF has niether tech nor numbers to defend IAF onslaught and trust me PAF knows it too very well :)
 
thats why you using them in your planes and the engines you develops not even work half of those russian engines...... go learn about your country armed forces before commenting your useless fantasy.
We Will replace those Russian engine in the near future.
 
trolling or no trolling who cares bring it on ;)

thing is PAF evry vell know that it as of now has no answer to indian MKis and if that wasnt enof there F16 fleet is almost obsolete and under severe flight ristriction deu to lack of feul and spares + the most potent F16s they have to counter MKis are not even three 18 Blk 52s+(42+13second and third hand MLUs) full squads and even those are bugged by the americans :)

on the other side of border they have 5+2 full squads of latest MKis + 3 squads of upgraded Mig 29s & M2Ks backed by same ammount of bisons and jags

so in short PAF has niether tech nor numbers to defend IAF onslaught and trust me PAF knows it too very well :)
What A Owner Pride !!!
First of All The SU-30MKI is not Indian
Sukhoi Su-30MKI developed by Russia's Sukhoi
built under licence by India's Hindustan Aeronautics Limited
and remaining story is
Russian NIIP N-011 radar
Russian long-range IRST sensor
French navigation
French heads-up display systems from Thales,
Israeli electronic warfare systems and
LITENING advanced targeting pods

unlike your nation we have a steady supply of spare parts from russia or for that matter any other nation from where we source owr defence equipmentyas problems do come but we are capable enof of handling them dont worry too much about uswo kainde ne "jinke ghar daane unade kamle wee sayane" ;)
Now Change the Threade Name
Russian Pride The SU-30 MKI
 
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We Will replace those Russian engine in the near future.

this thing are listing since 2001 ..... when you do then came and talk , till then ... keep the superiority thing to your self consumption.

What A Owner Pride !!!
First of All The SU-30MKI is not Indian
Sukhoi Su-30MKI developed by Russia's Sukhoibuilt under licence by India's Hindustan Aeronautics Limited
and remaining story is
Russian NIIP N-011 radar
Russian long-range IRST sensor
French navigation
French heads-up display systems from Thales,
Israeli electronic warfare systems and
LITENING advanced targeting pods


Now Change the Threade Name
Russian Pride The SU-30 MKI

When you call your Trainer K8 ( Pakistan product) , Mushtaq (PAK product ) and JF-17 (PAK product) ,

SU30 MKI caries more indian developed parts then what PAK has developed and used in JF-17....
 
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We have the best AESA tech in the world, you will throw your MKI immediately into trash bin after you saw J20's pave pace system.

MKI looks cool but it will be an semi obsolete product in the near future.
Haha, but we have the MMR - the best in the world to counter Chinese AESA.
Plus why would we throw our 'vulnerable' MKI's at your super duper J-20? Infact according to the top secret IAF doctrine which I just happened to make up, IAF will now pit our tiny, most advanced, RAM-coated, nearly invisible to chinese pilots looking hard for it, with non-zigzag rounded edges (advanced radar reflecting design by the top secret Radar Design Bureau in Majestic Circle, B'lore) and non -DSI intakes with RAM cloth coating and other top secret technologies --- our one and only LCA - the mighty Tejas - 25years in the making!!
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Taa--- Daa
IAF is going to use Tejas to massacre and cause genocide of your J-20 dragoooons....

Be afraid, be very afraid!!
 
What A Owner Pride !!!
First of All The SU-30MKI is not Indian
Sukhoi Su-30MKI developed by Russia's Sukhoi
built under licence by India's Hindustan Aeronautics Limited
and remaining story is
Russian NIIP N-011 radar
Russian long-range IRST sensor
French navigation
French heads-up display systems from Thales,
Israeli electronic warfare systems and
LITENING advanced targeting pods


Now Change the Threade Name
Russian Pride The SU-30 MKI
Why you are feeling proud of junk f.... Only Pakistan did is paint job.. F 16 came after Begging... I don't know why you are proud of them?
 
i have seen a few post here and have talked in detail with an IAF Squad leaders who flies these jeta a few things he siad was all that i could remmber

1.as of now there is nothing in this theater which can hold its ground against MKI even with its massive RCS cause it can very easli track and engage almost half squad of pakistani F16s (as they have some very serous handicaps to use its full potential in its radar and EW suits while MKI has none of those types )

2. each MKI can carry 10 BVRs + 2 WVR and wont need any external feul even if it takes of from as far as gwalior to engage a pakistani squad based in sarghoda

3. as of now every MKI is fully capable to carrie a single bhramos + 6 BVRs + 2 WVRs in a single deep strike sortie

4. MKI has jammers that can litrelli blind pakistan latest 3 X F16s radars single handedlli

and there aremany other techs that are not relevent to talk here MKI like all wepons is in a constant evolution phase at least since last 6 years and not even chinese sukhoies want to engage indian MKI (remmeber litrelli MKIs PESA is the best PESA owtside russia and maybe in the world & its EW suite & jammers are in a class of there own)

theoritakalli speaking IAF needs onli 3 squads of MKIs to engage and defeate whole PAF and there are many pakistanies here who belave that PAF "can use AWACS against MKI " and that there AWACS "can guide there BVRs" well they are in for a very very brute shock if they ever try this on real battlefield

baki lage raho

I also spoke to a few pilots who fly the MKI and they told me that IAF actually needs only 3 MKIs to defeat the entire PAF, 2 were meant for actual combat whereas the 3rd was to serve as a backup when one of the MKIs required servicing.

Oh wait......that was in the dreams of our Indian Members!!

1) Servicing and Sorties: In real life, only about 50% of the entire MKI fleet is air worthy at any given time, MKIs require intensive servicing after sorties and when push comes to shove the IAF will feel this. Not just that, the spares for MKIs are a nuisance and Russia has proved to be a pain in the *** when it comes to supplies.

2) Russian ECM/ECCM/Jammers: The Russian electronic jamming and counter jamming or their electronic counter/counter-counter measures were severely tested and put to shame when Russia itself was engaged in a war with Georgia.....and it was using it's 'A' grade equipment then, not the 'B' grade equipment that Russia is known to transfer outside Russia. Despite all that, it was unable to supress Georgian 'Russian supplied' Air Defense systems!!

3) Russian Missiles: Russian BVRs have abysmal record and their effectiveness is already 50% as per IAF doctrine (of Russian origin) of a salvo of missiles in BVR engagement. On the contrary, the AMRAAMs have a superb combat record even when fired singular. Even when we compare WVR missiles, the performance of Russian missiles is effective against Russian equipment only and their track record against ECM/ECCM armed European/American Jets is highly questionable.

4) BARS Radar: So much has been said about the BARS radar that a layman would want to arm an AWEACS with A2A missiles and let it serve as a air superiority Jet, I mean they carry radars a whole lot more powerful then any MKI can. However, only a layman would do that, there are many features of an AIM-120C and SD-10B that are not 'disclosed' to countries who are not buying them and there are many features that are known. Both of the missiles have something in common though, it is their ability to home in to active air jamming as preferred target instead of an illuminated target when the illuminated target 'vanishes' behind active jamming!! Is it a surprise then that this missile is so darned effective? The BARS radar, as so touted by Indians as the equivalent of GOD mode in the air, could potentially be a massive beacon for the AMRAAMs to home in to!

If only the MKI was anything close to what Indians thought of it, there wouldn't really be any need for a MMRCA/Rafael........after all the BARS should be sufficient to make mince meat of any and all PAF/PLAAF Jets!!
 
2) Russian ECM/ECCM/Jammers: The Russian electronic jamming and counter jamming or their electronic counter/counter-counter measures were severely tested and put to shame when Russia itself was engaged in a war with Georgia.....and it was using it's 'A' grade equipment then, not the 'B' grade equipment that Russia is known to transfer outside Russia. Despite all that, it was unable to supress Georgian 'Russian supplied' Air Defense systems!!

Nice story,but MKI uses Indian & Israeli jammers.

In real life, only about 50% of the entire MKI fleet is air worthy at any given time,

source?
 
God bless the old wise man who concluded that '' empty vessels make more noise'' and don't forget to thank for if it wasn't for PDF, you would probably end up writing all this on a wall.

For you,sn imbecile who makes ridiculous claims like 'Pakistan is ahead of India in space technology' is a knowledgeable member...:omghaha: No wonder this is pdf....:omghaha:

Bhai you are quoting an emotionally unstable kid..:lol:

shut up fool
 
Why you are feeling proud of junk f.... Only Pakistan did is paint job.. F 16 came after Begging... I don't know why you are proud of them?

The retarded Chutiya strikes again ..

trolling or no trolling who cares bring it on ;)

thing is PAF evry vell know that it as of now has no answer to indian MKis and if that wasnt enof there F16 fleet is almost obsolete and under severe flight ristriction deu to lack of feul and spares + the most potent F16s they have to counter MKis are not even three 18 Blk 52s+(42+13second and third hand MLUs) full squads and even those are bugged by the americans :)

on the other side of border they have 5+2 full squads of latest MKis + 3 squads of upgraded Mig 29s & M2Ks backed by same ammount of bisons and jags

so in short PAF has niether tech nor numbers to defend IAF onslaught and trust me PAF knows it too very well :)

Keep restricted to stupid n funny thread you belong there.. Apart from uninformed bs.. You can't even spell or write sentences tht actually even make sense.
 
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