About sects in Islamic world: My own story

[fitpOsitive]

I was born into a Deobandi Family. My parents were an ultra extremist Deobandi(after by Tablegh they are now behaving ). They never let us eat Kondas, Girahween k Chawal or Niaz of Muharram. They told us, all of this is wrong. But when I reached 10 years, my mom sent me to Madrasa to read Quraan which was run by Barelvis. She strictly told me not to follow them, just read Quraan. But Molvi Sahab was determined to make me Barelvi. I read Salawat after Juma, every Juma. Kissed my thumbs and touched my eyes on ever "Muhammad" S.W. He was successful in making me somewhat Barelvi. He always used to say that "Wahabi sab Kafir hain". And then I reached university. In university, I met a guy who was a Salafi. He preached me and again, told me everybody else is wrong. I was Salafi then . But then I started my own thinking process. And then I became a muslim. If you see closely, every sect is based on "some part" of Islam. For example, Tableeghi Jamat says that Islam is by Tablegh, and Islam is basically Tablegh(preaching). In fact its just a part of Islam. For Shias, Hubbe - ahle - Bait is enough, where as again, its just a part of Islam, not whole of it. For Barelvis, if you are Sunni, you are good to Jannah, and so on...
Tolerance for each other is basically what Islam teaches. Intolerance is basically the base of many social problems. The true line to follow should be: Do and learn your way, and let others what they learn and do.
I will conclude with narration of one happening. That will show you how Imams behaved.
One day Imam Malik R.A went to Madinah, and during Namaz, he didn't do Raf - Ul- Yadain. People asked him why he didn't do that. He said "I didn't do that just in respect of Shaikh ul Masjid(Imam Abbu Hanifa R.A)". So the difference of doing or not Raf - ul - Yadain was that small? And on things like this, many people call others Kafir and many have killed others.
May be many people don't agree with my views, and for that I am sorry, for my non-convincing logic.
So, lets take a moderate path, to just please Allah, just Allah. Now I support all sects, as each sect represent atleast one part or aspect of Islam. The aspects of sects which talk something not belonging to Quraan or/and Sunnah, are sure not aspects of sects, but of different religions other than Islam.

 

[war&peace]

I went through some similar experience. My parents are educated but they closer to barelvis, however they always encouraged us to read the Holy Quran with translation and tafsir. I was taught Holy Quran by my lated mother but for Qiraat I had a home tutor who was Deobandi. I met quite a salafies and Ahle-hadeeth as well and some were very strict while others bit moderate. During my university education I joined MSA and used to attend the lectures by guest scholar, like Imam Wahaj Siraj, Noman Ali Khan, Yusuf Estes, Yasir Qazi etc a long list so it really diversified and deepened my knowledge...Also I listened to Maulana Ishaq, Dr Israr, Prof. Rafiq, Wasif Ali Wasif on youtube. So I agree with you have each of the sects clings for a certain aspects of Islam more and ignores or pays less attention to the rest. I'm neither a Barelvi, Deobandi, Salafi, Shia etc..I'm just Muslim and believe it is the most difficult to be simply a Muslim because people like to label. If you point out any wrong practices of any sect, they will immediately tell you that you belong their opponents. Shia will call you Wahabi and vice versa. But's how it is and we have to stand our ground firm since that's the right thing to do.

 

[Metanoia]

Just be extremely careful of the people who claim to be 100% right and have no problem in doing takfir on the others, i.e. declaring others kafir and/or mushrik. This goes for any sect or school of thought, but a certain sect does so much more frequently and freely than the others.

 

[war&peace]

Just be extremely careful of the people who claim to be 100% right and have no problem in doing takfir on the others, i.e. declaring others kafir and/or mushrik. This goes for any sect or school of thought, but a certain sect does so much more frequently and freely than the others.

Basically avoid extremes and we know two extremes without naming them and also each sect has extremists and moderates.. so follow the median/mean path and avoid extremities.

 

[Verve]

But then I started my own thinking process. And then I became a muslim.

I don't believe in following any sect, there is absolutely no need to either.

 

[Pak-Americanos]

Ban religion or practice it in your closet!. We are pakistanies first and for most.

 

[war&peace]

Ban religion or practice it in your closet!. We are pakistanies first and for most.

Don't use 'we'

 

[Pak-Americanos]

Ban religion or practice it in your closet!. We are pakistanies first and for most.

Btw I went though similar to that. Come from a berveli hanafi family, went from one extreme to another like a yo-yo. Realized how dumb all this stuff was and now I’m just a Pakistani American nothing more and nothing less. I’m very happy about that meray life per sakoon hai ub.

 

[YeBeWarned]

I feel sorry for your parents. Instead of good Deobandi, if they become good Muslim it would have been better

 

[Trango Towers]

I don't believe in following any sect, there is absolutely no need to either.

I follow the sect of prophet Muhammad.. ...oh wait he didnt have one

 

[Mentee]

On the day of judgment don't take the plea of being related to a specific sect for getting vip treatment, things could turn ugly real fast.
Just stick to

1-Courtesy
2- making an honest living
3-extending a helping hand to all the creations to what ever extent you seem feasible
4-think good and mean good to other fellow human beings.
5-apply modesty in all affairs.

That's the least we could do, can't we? Besides, sectarian contentions won't affect us. As we can't go back in history and witness ourselves what went wrong or right.

Ban religion or practice it in your closet!. We are pakistanies first and for most.

Ismay giram?

 

[MultaniGuy]

Salafi and Ahle-e Hadith is the same thing.

Usually I am told Barelvis are not the mainstream Sunni Islam, even if Barelvis claim to be Sunnis.

People should read up on Dr. Israr Ahmed. His lectures are good.

Usually people call themselves Sunni to say they are part of the mainstream Islam, and not with the minority community of the Shia.

Perhaps @dsr478 , can help explain.

 

[undercover JIX]

just a question,
is not there a hadith mentioning about 76 or so sects/firqay and only one will be on the rite path?
if that is the case then, there is one which is rite an dour responsibility is to search for the rite one and stick to it.
staying out of all would not be the rite thing to do, when Hadees tells us one is on rite path, so we should be with one out of all, whichever our research and understanding tells us is rite. we are responsible for our choices.

So if Hadees tells us there are 76 or so lines towards the true source but only one is actually connected to the source, then we must be in that line (Sect). staying out of all the lines will not reach us anywhere.

what you say?

 

[fitpOsitive]

On the day of judgment don't take the plea of being related to a specific sect for getting vip treatment, things could turn ugly real fast.
Just stick to

1-Courtesy
2- making an honest living
3-extending a helping hand to all the creations to what ever extent you seem feasible
4-think good and mean good to other fellow human beings.
5-apply modesty in all affairs.

That's the least we could do, can't we? Besides, sectarian contentions won't affect us. As we can't go back in history and witness ourselves what went wrong or right.

I always wondered why Allah didn't destroy Bani-Israel completely, and why muslims are under his wrath in this world(but again not completely destroyed). The rule are simple, straight, and equal for everybody in this world. They are corrupt, they are merciless, yet they offer their own duties well(even better than muslims). They are unjust to every human on the face of earth, but are just to at least their own people. We muslims, though more charitable, are totally unjust in our societies. Bani-Israel will be destroyed the day, when there will be left no goodness amongst them(hence arrival of Esah - ibn - Maryam and subsequent destruction of his ummah in-front of him) and we will take over them when we will be better humans than them.
But of-course the matters of eternity are different from the worldly ones. So, you see the math?
Aik Allah, Aik Quraan, Aik Nabi....jhagra kis bat ka hai...?

 

[MultaniGuy]

just a question,
is not there a hadith mentioning about 76 or so sects/firqay and only one will be on the rite path?
if that is the case then, there is one which is rite an dour responsibility is to search for the rite one and stick to it.
staying out of all would not be the rite thing to do, when Hadees tells us one is on rite path, so we should be with one out of all, whichever our research and understanding tells us is rite. we are responsible for our choices.

So if Hadees tells us there are 76 or so lines towards the true source but only one is actually connected to the source, then we must be in that line (Sect). staying out of all the lines will not reach us anywhere.

what you say?

I heard about that too.