Logic of regain independence.
Russia rejects Chinese help offer on Japan disputes
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Logic of regain independence.
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You are descendant of slaves of Hans, Mongolian, Manchus ; and Hans until now. Slaves don't know their true fate, just barking.
I exposed your lies claiming that Cantonese are Baiyue. Cantonese have majority Northern Han Y Chromosome, and Cantonese language is closer to Middle Chinese.
Southern Han Chinese and their relationship with the Baiyue | Page 18
@Hu Songshan
Rechoice and @EastSea behave in the exact same manner, they post in the same broken English, they are obsessed with accusing Cantonese of being Baiyue and claim they are "slaves of Hans, Mongolian, Manchus". They both posted pictures of dead bodies on another thread, they seem to be the same person.
Vietnamese conquest of Muslim/Hindu Cham and their current situation | Page 19
They both call Chinese "dirty sea pirates" and speak in the same way.
Xisha may open to tourists soon | Page 14
Xisha may open to tourists soon | Page 14
South China Sea News & Discussions | Page 112
They both talk about "wu yue" and "min yue"
Emerging Taiwanese identity | Page 4
History of Vietnam or What do you want to know about Vietnam? | Page 78
China cozying up with Dalai | Page 4
Southern Han Chinese and their relationship with the Baiyue | Page 8
China calls on Japan to respect historical facts | Page 6
Vietnam, Philippines 'bullying' ASEAN over sea conflict: Cambodian sources | Page 2
Vietnam Rises as Middle Power at Defense Summit: Southeast Asia | Page 5
China calls on Japan to respect historical facts | Page 7
Vietnamese conquest of Muslim/Hindu Cham and their current situation | Page 19
Vassal state kicked @ of fake master ran away.
Tran dynasty and Ho dynasty were both ruled by Chinese.
A History of the Vietnamese - K. W. Taylor - Google Books
Secondary Cities and Urban Networking in the Indian Ocean Realm, C. 1400-1800 - Google Books
A History of the Vietnamese - K. W. Taylor - Google Books
Secondary Cities and Urban Networking in the Indian Ocean Realm, C. 1400-1800 - Google Books
The Ming dynasty liberated Vietnam from your Chinese ruled Ho dynasty. Without Ming, you would still be ruled by Chinese.
Most of the Vietnamese Kinh ancestors in the Red River Delta and Hanoi supported the Ming rule. The Kinh were "people of the capital".
It was Le Loi, who lived in the Vietnamese borderlands in Thanh Hoa where the "barbarian" Trai people (people of the camps) lived, where he started his rebellion. Le Loi himself was NOT a Kinh, but a Trai, and his army was made out of Trai people. The Kinh viewed Trai as barbarians.
Many of the Kinh Vietnamese in the Red River plain supported the Ming. Le Loi's anti Ming rebellion, was actually a Trai vs Kinh war, with the Kinh fighting for Ming against the Le dynasty Trai.
A History of the Vietnamese - K. W. Taylor - Google Books
A History of the Vietnamese - K. W. Taylor - Google Books
Strange Parallels: Southeast Asia in Global Context, C. 800 - 1830 - Victor B. Lieberman - Google Books
A History of the Vietnamese - K. W. Taylor - Google Books
A History of the Vietnamese - K. W. Taylor - Google Books
A History of the Vietnamese - K. W. Taylor - Google Books
A History of the Vietnamese - K. W. Taylor - Google Books
A History of the Vietnamese - K. W. Taylor - Google Books
A History of the Vietnamese - K. W. Taylor - Google Books
The Trai people are ancestors of the Muong people. The Trai/Muong and Kinh were both of the same origin originally, speaking the same language. The difference between the Trai/Muong and Kinh, is that Kinh Vietnamese were influenced by Chinese culture, religion, and language, with Kinh adopting thousands of Chinese loanwords in their language, using Chu Nom characters, adopting Chinese Daoism, Confucianism, government, and alot of Chinese culture. The Trai/Muong refused to adopt it and maintained the original "barbarian" culture from before Chinese influenced Vietnam.
Muong people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Le Loi was a Trai/Muong, with a Trai/Muong army fighting against the Ming-Kinh Vietnamese forces. After Le Loi overthrew Ming rule, he and Le dynasty historians like Ngo Si Lien engaged in rewriting Vietnamese history to justify their own rule over Vietnam.
The Le dynasty then created the Kinh as a new ethnicity to seperate Vietnamese from minorities and other peoples. Before that, there was no seperate Kinh ethnic group, thats why the "Kinh" of the Red River region supported the Ming.
Goddess on the Rise: Pilgrimage and Popular Religion in Vietnam - Philip Taylor - Google Books
Human Rights in Asia: A Comparative Legal Study of Twelve Asian ... - Google Books
Historical Dictionary of the Peoples of the Southeast Asian Massif - Jean Michaud - Google Books
Postwar Vietnam: Dynamics of a Transforming Society - Google Books
The Art of Not Being Governed: An Anarchist History of Upland Southeast Asia - James C. Scott - Google Books
Culture and Customs of Vietnam - Mark W. McLeod, Thi Dieu Nguyen - Google Books
Le dynasty historian Ngo Si Lien started inventing tales about Vietnamese being descended from Shennong and making stories up about the Hung Kings, to extend the Kinh's ethnic history back to antiquity. Before that, the Kinh didn't have a seperate distinct history.
A History of the Vietnamese - K. W. Taylor - Google Books
Blood and Soil: A World History of Genocide and Extermination from Sparta to ... - Ben Kiernan - Google Books
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don't lie, troll and crying with same trashes, kid.
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Russia has no territorial claims against Japan!
Between Russia and Japan can be no rapprochement, while Japan occupied by the United States and while Japan has territorial claims against Russia.Japan PM Mr. Abe and Russia President Putin in Sochi now. It is respected that Putin should visit Japan in this year.
I hope both side should solve this dispute base on rules of International law and Russia and Japan could sign the peace accord which is not signed until now from ending of WW II.
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I think that the Russian leadership is happy to go on deepening cooperation with Japan and sign a peace treaty. But under the condition that Japan renounce any territorial claims to Russia.
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Really? How is Xi stand and look angrily? If anything, we have been doing the same with our improving relation with the USA. This is strictly diplomatic interest from the big powers. We play this game, US play it, and Russia play it. It's nothing new. The truth is when a shot is fire, who with who will be more clear. Delusional Vietnamese. LOL
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