Greek Mirage 2000 locks a Turkish frigate

[Oublious]

I dont leave my warm island for usless scum in the cold and rainy north

Yeah sure, send more german soldiers to Syria. We will send them back in body bags, scums are people like you behind your monitor acting bigger then you are.

Another german soldiers bite the dust....

Another german killed by Turkish forces...

And a scum like georg is barking...

More you send more you will get it back in bodybags...

Gunter helsten killed...

kevin jochimm....

 

[CAN_TR]

why everyone belife greece is no match for turkey...

Turkey military is so incompetent that it hardly can deal with poorly equipped terrorists....
NATO left not a single good word about the turkish officer corp which is in the eyes of the other NATO members dangerously badly educated trained and lacks competent leadership. Beign a proud turkey does not make you a good soldier... or leading officer..

The bulk of turkish military equipment is still early cold war stuff specially tanks.. next to that if Turkey would really attack for what ever reason Greece I am pretty sure the majority of NATO would support Greece what would end any turkish agression whithin hours

Things going well in Afghanistan for the so competent US/European millitaries?

Funny thing Turkey's old stuff is still working can't say that about new German Air Force or your armoured brigades which lack maintenance capabilities.
Viel Spaß beim lesen Georg.
https://www.zdf.de/nachrichten/heute/bericht-des-wehrbeauftragten-zustand-der-bundeswehr-desastroes-100.html

The poorly equipped terrorists are those who received tons of weapon/training/intelligence support by our so called "allies"?
Or those terrorists who are pushed back inside Iraq by Turkish Forces (northern Turkish-Iraqi border totally under Turkish controll) and now try to use new routes over Iran and Armenia? Or do you mean the thugs destroyed within a week in northern Syria? Genocide of Kurds, Ethnic cleansing, sanctions, Turkey out of NATO use of chemical weapons that's how the "competent" Europeans barked.

Greeks are aware of Turkish capabilities they've tasted it 1996.

Competent Europeans:

Spoiler

 

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why everyone belife greece is no match for turkey...

Turkey military is so incompetent that it hardly can deal with poorly equipped terrorists....
NATO left not a single good word about the turkish officer corp which is in the eyes of the other NATO members dangerously badly educated trained and lacks competent leadership. Beign a proud turkey does not make you a good soldier... or leading officer..

The bulk of turkish military equipment is still early cold war stuff specially tanks.. next to that if Turkey would really attack for what ever reason Greece I am pretty sure the majority of NATO would support Greece what would end any turkish agression whithin hours

even Turkish Gendarme is stronger than pathetic German Army who never shot a single bullet in a real conflict since 1945

German-French-American-Dutch-British-Canadian-Chinese ,etc soldiers in YPG are talking about scary Turkish Army

TURKs are fighting , on the other hand Greeks and Europeans are only training

only watch .. loser

btw only Turkish Missile-Bomb Systems TRG-122 , TRG-300 , J600T , BORA , KGK , SDB , SOM , ATMACA are enough to turn tiny Greece and Greek Islands into dark age


Huge Turkish Army has more Howitzers , MLRS , Tactical Ballistic Missiles and UCAVs than tiny and weak German+French+British+Italian Armies combined

and Turkish Army modernized M-60TM Tanks are better than even Leopard2A7 in urban warfare

-- 1.000 hp MTU diesel Engine
-- MG253 120mm Gun
-- RENK 304S Transmission
-- Explosive Reactive Armor ERA
-- Knight fire control system from Elbit Systems
-- The hybrid electric and hydraulic system
-- Commander's Independent Thermal Viewer (CITV)
-- The RWR/IR warning system, and tracks from the Merkava IV


after the Olive Branch and Euphrates Shield Operations in Syria, the M60T Tanks in the hands of the Turkish Army were modernized with various modifications and changes and took the name of M60TM

-- Close Range Surveillance System (YAMGÖZ)
M-60TM Tanks to have situational awareness in day and night conditions. System includes uncooled thermal camera and color TV camera, and provides a great advantage in threat and target detection and recognition in close/middle range to its user with its 360˚ horizontal field of view in various weather conditions

-- Telescopic Periscope System (TEPES)
It is possible to detect the enemy without being seen to the enemy elements while in the position behind the suture and to make safe surveillance and target detection. Laser distance measurement up to 20 kilometers, Thermal and TV image capture, automatic target tracking, wide surveillance, height can be raised to 2.5 meters with an upgradeable mast

-- Tank Laser Warning System (TLUS)

-- Tank Driver Vision System (TDVS)

-- Fire Suppression System

-- Smoke Grenade Launchers

-- Air Conditioning System

-- Auxiliary Power Unit and Audible Warning System

-- 12,7mm SARP Stabilized Advanced Remote Weapon Platform

-- Interior Primer Protection (SPALL LINER)
Spall Liner is a kind of FRC material used for lining the interior of vehicles to decrease the risk and the effect of spall generated by attacks on the exterior surface

-- PULAT hard kill Active Protection System






Turkish Army M-60TM Tank in combat area - October 2019 / Syria


huge Turkish Army has 49.000+ TOW , MILAN , ERYX , KONKURS , KORNET , UMTAS anti Tank Missiles to turn all Tanks in Europe into burned pigs

huge Turkish Army has 800 STINGER MANPADS with 4.800 missiles to turn all Attack Helicopters and Aircrafts in Europe into burned birds

also Turkish Armed Forces with 100+ of UCAVs to hunt enemy Tanks , Howitzers , troops

Turkish monster AKINCI UCAV to carry even 110 km KGK Bomb and 280km SOM Cruise Missile ( Europe is dreaming about this technology )

 

[Flight of falcon]

I dont leave my warm island for usless scum in the cold and rainy north




The USa has armed the Kurds only a vew years back... and u fight them without any success since decades so dont come up with the crap u pull out of your rear end

Fighting in Afghanistan has been going on for 20 years.
Either you are uneducated or have never bothered reading history.
PKK was basically formed and supported by the CIA to fight against Saddam . They were equipped and trained by Israelis and CIA .
Now I don’t need to pull out anything out of my rear end since your lack of knowledge betrays your maturity and education level.

 

[Ahmad Bhutta]

Greece an insignificant country doesn't need to exist any more there's no Alexander or Pluto or anyone to carry out its name their days are gone long enough no need to mess with turkey u better go sleep turkey

 

[Vergennes]

Greece an insignificant country doesn't need to exist any more there's no Alexander or Pluto or anyone to carry out its name their days are gone long enough no need to mess with turkey u better go sleep turkey

Greece despite its size and its economy still maintains large (especially during wartime) and relatively well equipped,trained armed forces but many seem to forget this fact. Love or admiration of Turkey or whatever you call it seems to blind many people on this forum. Turkey could even defeat the United States if you listened to them.

 

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Greece despite its size and its economy still maintains large (especially during wartime) and relatively well equipped,trained armed forces but many seem to forget this fact. Love or admiration of Turkey or whatever you call it seems to blind many people on this forum. Turkey could even defeat the United States if you listened to them.

even Vietnam and Afghanistan kicked the US ... war is not video game

and tiny Greece is insect . nothing else ...... but smart British-French wants to use stupid Greece as toilet paper again as like between 1919 and 1922

ask your grandpa about the Turks who kicked Greeks+British+French+Armenians between 1919 and 1922 , even in the weakest period of the Turks

Today your tiny and weak Armies are not threat to the Turkish Armed Forces

You keep crying in Syria and Eastern Mediterranean

only 1.000 of Turkish Missile-Bomb Systems TRG-122 , TRG-300 , J600T , BORA , KGK , SDB , SOM , ATMACA are enough to turn tiny Greece and Greek Islands into dark age in a few days

even I am not talking about hundreds of American and Russian missiles of the Turkish Armed Forces such as ATACMS , SLAM-ER , HARPOON , SM-1MR , ESSM , JSOW , POPEYE , HARM and S-400

 

[KungFuLee]

even Vietnam and Afghanistan kicked the US ... war is not video game

and tiny Greece is insect . nothing else ...... but smart British-French wants to use stupid Greece as toilet paper again as like between 1919 and 1922

ask your grandpa about the Turks who kicked Greeks+British+French+Armenians between 1919 and 1922 , even in the weakest period of the Turks

Today your tiny and weak Armies are not threat to the Turkish Armed Forces

You keep crying in Syria and Eastern Mediterranean

only 1.000 of Turkish Missile-Bomb Systems TRG-122 , TRG-300 , J600T , BORA , KGK , SDB , SOM , ATMACA are enough to turn tiny Greece and Greek Islands into dark age in a few days

even I am not talking about hundreds of American and Russian missiles of the Turkish Armed Forces such as ATACMS , SLAM-ER , HARPOON , SM-1MR , ESSM , JSOW , POPEYE , HARM and S-400

I think you are being unfair.

While I am not a military enthusiast, I still recognize the fact that both time the US fought 10,000 KM away form her home. And you are using it to compare about Turkey fighting Greek, which basically border Turkey.

You cannot effectively bring a fully equipped army that far and fight a war that effective. Plus, many would dispute whether or not US did actually lose in Vietnam and Afghanistan in term of Military Objective.

 

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I think you are being unfair.

While I am not a military enthusiast, I still recognize the fact that both time the US fought 10,000 KM away form her home. And you are using it to compare about Turkey fighting Greek, which basically border Turkey.

You cannot effectively bring a fully equipped army that far and fight a war that effective. Plus, many would dispute whether or not US did actually lose in Vietnam and Afghanistan in term of Military Objective.

are you joking or what ? Super Power the US fought against tiny weak and poor North Vietnam

more than 3 million Americans served in the Vietnam War, even I am not tallking about 2 million soldiers from South Vietnam , S.Korea , Australia,New Zelland ,etc to support the US againnst around 900.000 North Vietnam forces and over 300.000 Chinese troops

over 600 M-48 Tanks were deployed with US Forces . approximately 7,000 UH-1 Helicopters saw service in Vietnam
American Ground forces also had access to B-52 and F-4 Phantom and other Aircrafts to launch napalm, white phosphorus, tear gas, chemical weapons, precision guided munitions and cluster bombs

what a great power

still the US lost in Vietnam .... same result for Super power Soviet Union in Afghanistan



so war is not video game .... and Greece is not military power who can not produce even Cruise Missiles

what about Greece ? Greek Airforce has only 39 of EXOCET anti ship Missiles and 90 SCLAP Cruise Missiles , nothing else

Turkey is regional power with bigger economy than Greek+Israeli+Egyptiian economies combined ( even Turkey lost $1 trillion to fight terrorism since 1985 and Turkish economy under attack by the US since 2013 )

Turkey develops/produce around 700 military projects including

-- 120km TRG-300 guided MLRS
-- 150km J-600T and 280-1.000km KHAN/BORA Ballistic Missiles
-- 280 km SOM air launched Cruise Missile
-- 220+ km ATMACA anti ship Missile
-- 100+ km KUZGUN smart Bomb with GPS , INS , Infrared Seeker, data link, mmW Radar
-- 110km KGK smart Bomb
-- 150+km KGK-ER Glide Bomb with IIR seeker
-- 1.000+ km KARGI anti radiotion Drone
-- AKBABA anti radiation Missile
-- 800/1.400 km GEZGIN land and naval based Cruise Missile
-- KORKUT SPAAG with 35mm airburst ammunition to intercept Cruise Missiles
-- HISAR-A , HISAR-O and SIPER low-medium-high altitude Air Defense Systems
-- High energy LASER Weapons
-- KORAL and REDET Radar Electronic Warfare Systems to jam enemy land-air-naval Radars from 200+ km away

even I am not talking about hundreds of American and Russian missiles of the Turkish Armed Forces such as ATACMS , SLAM-ER , HARPOON , SM-1MR , ESSM , JSOW , POPEYE , HARM and S-400

only Missile Systems are enough to turn tiny Greece and Greek Islands into dark age in a few days
Our comparator is France in Syria and Eastern Mediterranean , not tiny Greece

and even France can not match with the Turkish Armed Forces in the Eastern Mediterranean

Therefore MACRON is crying everywhere and France wants to use Pkk/Ypg terrorists and Greece against Turkey
but little insects Pkk/Ypg terrorists and Greece never can stand against the Turkish Armed Forces

 

[Viet]

are you joking or what ? Super Power the US fought against tiny weak and poor North Vietnam

more than 3 million Americans served in the Vietnam War, even I am not tallking about 2 million soldiers from South Vietnam , S.Korea , Australia,New Zelland ,etc to support the US againnst around 900.000 North Vietnam forces and over 300.000 Chinese troops

over 600 M-48 Tanks were deployed with US Forces . approximately 7,000 UH-1 Helicopters saw service in Vietnam
American Ground forces also had access to B-52 and F-4 Phantom and other Aircrafts to launch napalm, white phosphorus, tear gas, chemical weapons, precision guided munitions and cluster bombs

what a great power

still the US lost in Vietnam .... same result for Super power Soviet Union in Afghanistan



so war is not video game .... and Greece is not military power who can not produce even Cruise Missiles

what about Greece ? Greek Airforce has only 39 of EXOCET anti ship Missiles and 90 SCLAP Cruise Missiles , nothing else

Turkey is regional power with bigger economy than Greek+Israeli+Egyptiian economies combined ( even Turkey lost $1 trillion to fight terrorism since 1985 and Turkish economy under attack by the US since 2013 )

Turkey develops/produce around 700 military projects including

-- 120km TRG-300 guided MLRS
-- 150km J-600T and 280-1.000km KHAN/BORA Ballistic Missiles
-- 280 km SOM air launched Cruise Missile
-- 220+ km ATMACA anti ship Missile
-- 100+ km KUZGUN smart Bomb with GPS , INS , Infrared Seeker, data link, mmW Radar
-- 110km KGK smart Bomb
-- 150+km KGK-ER Glide Bomb with IIR seeker
-- 1.000+ km KARGI anti radiotion Drone
-- AKBABA anti radiation Missile
-- 800/1.400 km GEZGIN land and naval based Cruise Missile
-- KORKUT SPAAG with 35mm airburst ammunition to intercept Cruise Missiles
-- HISAR-A , HISAR-O and SIPER low-medium-high altitude Air Defense Systems
-- High energy LASER Weapons
-- KORAL and REDET Radar Electronic Warfare Systems to jam enemy land-air-naval Radars from 200+ km away

even I am not talking about hundreds of American and Russian missiles of the Turkish Armed Forces such as ATACMS , SLAM-ER , HARPOON , SM-1MR , ESSM , JSOW , POPEYE , HARM and S-400

only Missile Systems are enough to turn tiny Greece and Greek Islands into dark age in a few days
Our comparator is France in Syria and Eastern Mediterranean , not tiny Greece

and even France can not match with the Turkish Armed Forces in the Eastern Mediterranean

Therefore MACRON is crying everywhere and France wants to use Pkk/Ypg terrorists and Greece against Turkey
but little insects Pkk/Ypg terrorists and Greece never can stand against the Turkish Armed Forces

The Vietnam war was a war of attrition. The US lost because the war became unsustainable economically, military, politically and everything. Vietnam military never had a chance against the US armed forces.

We lost two millions while the US only 60,000.

 

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The US lost because the war became unsustainable economically, military, politically and everything. Vietnam military never had a chance against the US armed forces.

We lost two millions while the US only 60,000.

Super Power The US lost trillion Dollars and over 60.000 troops and over 300.000 wounded in Vietnam War
also approximately 830,000 Vietnam veterans suffered some degree of posttraumatic stress disorder

RESULT : Withdrawal of the US forces from Vietnam and Communist forces take power in South Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos ( Super Power The US failed in Vietnam )


still some daydreamer clowns are dreaming about tiny and poor 10 million Greece to fight against 82 million Turkey which has bigger economy than Greek+Israeli+Egyptian economies combined and develop/produce around 700 military projects

 

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Greece, Israel, Egypt cannot act without our approval,' Erdoğan says about Turkey-Libya deal

https://www.dailysabah.com/diplomac...approval-erdogan-says-about-turkey-libya-deal

 

[azyr]

This thread has turned into a bashing game with virtually no redeemable info being shared. I think it should be locked.

 

[IblinI]

even Turkish Gendarme is stronger than pathetic German Army who never shot a single bullet in a real conflict since 1945

German-French-American-Dutch-British-Canadian-Chinese ,etc soldiers in YPG are talking about scary Turkish Army

TURKs are fighting , on the other hand Greeks and Europeans are only training

only watch .. loser

btw only Turkish Missile-Bomb Systems TRG-122 , TRG-300 , J600T , BORA , KGK , SDB , SOM , ATMACA are enough to turn tiny Greece and Greek Islands into dark age


Huge Turkish Army has more Howitzers , MLRS , Tactical Ballistic Missiles and UCAVs than tiny and weak German+French+British+Italian Armies combined

and Turkish Army modernized M-60TM Tanks are better than even Leopard2A7 in urban warfare

-- 1.000 hp MTU diesel Engine
-- MG253 120mm Gun
-- RENK 304S Transmission
-- Explosive Reactive Armor ERA
-- Knight fire control system from Elbit Systems
-- The hybrid electric and hydraulic system
-- Commander's Independent Thermal Viewer (CITV)
-- The RWR/IR warning system, and tracks from the Merkava IV


after the Olive Branch and Euphrates Shield Operations in Syria, the M60T Tanks in the hands of the Turkish Army were modernized with various modifications and changes and took the name of M60TM

-- Close Range Surveillance System (YAMGÖZ)
M-60TM Tanks to have situational awareness in day and night conditions. System includes uncooled thermal camera and color TV camera, and provides a great advantage in threat and target detection and recognition in close/middle range to its user with its 360˚ horizontal field of view in various weather conditions

-- Telescopic Periscope System (TEPES)
It is possible to detect the enemy without being seen to the enemy elements while in the position behind the suture and to make safe surveillance and target detection. Laser distance measurement up to 20 kilometers, Thermal and TV image capture, automatic target tracking, wide surveillance, height can be raised to 2.5 meters with an upgradeable mast

-- Tank Laser Warning System (TLUS)

-- Tank Driver Vision System (TDVS)

-- Fire Suppression System

-- Smoke Grenade Launchers

-- Air Conditioning System

-- Auxiliary Power Unit and Audible Warning System

-- 12,7mm SARP Stabilized Advanced Remote Weapon Platform

-- Interior Primer Protection (SPALL LINER)
Spall Liner is a kind of FRC material used for lining the interior of vehicles to decrease the risk and the effect of spall generated by attacks on the exterior surface

-- PULAT hard kill Active Protection System






Turkish Army M-60TM Tank in combat area - October 2019 / Syria


huge Turkish Army has 49.000+ TOW , MILAN , ERYX , KONKURS , KORNET , UMTAS anti Tank Missiles to turn all Tanks in Europe into burned pigs

huge Turkish Army has 800 STINGER MANPADS with 4.800 missiles to turn all Attack Helicopters and Aircrafts in Europe into burned birds

also Turkish Armed Forces with 100+ of UCAVs to hunt enemy Tanks , Howitzers , troops

Turkish monster AKINCI UCAV to carry even 110 km KGK Bomb and 280km SOM Cruise Missile ( Europe is dreaming about this technology )

How could someone wrote such a big paragraph with absolutely no useful info in it, blind nationalism at it's peak, you are a legend of PDF.

 

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OMFG, how could someone wrote such a big paragraph with absolutely no useful info in it, you are a legend of PDF.

If you are so brainless , its your problem
and Its not blind nationalism , stfu and dont talk to me anymore , I am not talking to butthurt Chinese TROLL Team

Ignorant German guy said that Turkish Army Tanks from cold war

I informed German guy about modernized M-60TM Tanks which are better than many European Tanks for urban warfare

only ignorant guys can say that Greece has modern Tanks to beat Turkey

Greece with only 170 Leopard2A6 Tanks can not do anything .... Turkish UCAVs can turn Greek Army Tanks into crap of metal

also huge Turkish Army has 49.000+ TOW , MILAN , ERYX , KONKURS , KORNET , UMTAS anti Tank Missiles to turn even all Tanks in Europe into burned pigs

Tanks are joke in modern wars .... I prefer UCAVs

and Turkey is in top 4 in the world for UCAV Technology ( the US , Israel , Turkey and China )
also only Turkish Missile Systems are enough for tiny poor weak Greece who can not develop even cruise missile


btw You have zero knowledge about military , only trolling , nothing else typical Chinese

if you ignorant guys know nothing about the Turkish Army , stup up !