Greece radar locks Turkish F-16 jets during NATO mission

[Oublious]

Greece radar locks Turkish F-16 jets during NATO mission​

Greece radar locks Turkish F-16 jets during NATO mission

Ankara conveys harassment to NATO authorities and summons Greek military attache, sources say.

www.trtworld.com

Greece is ready to get slapped

 

[S10]

Lock them back.

 

[Flight of falcon]

Why is this even a news ??

 

[Foinikas]

Greece is ready to get slapped

Why don't you tell them what you did though?

“The Ministry of Defense announces that after consultation and agreement between GEETHA and NATO Air Command (AIRCOM), a flight of an American B-52 aircraft took place in the FIR of Athens on August 22, 2022 at noon.


The B-52s entered from the southwestern boundary of the Athens FIR to exit west of the island of Megistis. The flight of the aircraft in question took place as part of a demonstration of cohesion and solidarity between the Allies.


While the B-52’s movement was not to be escorted by fighter jets, as has happened at other times in the past, five unidentified flight tracks moved east of Karpathos, disrupting the B-52’s route and thereby violating air traffic rules to submit a flight plan.


Four HAF F-16 fighter jets took off immediately off Crete, who identified the unknown tracks as armed Turkish F-16 fighter jets intercepted in accordance with international rules and standard procedures.


The relevant authorities of NATO and the USA have been informed. Any other description of the facts in question is incorrect.”

Turkish violations​

A spate of violations of the Aegean Islands’ national airspace across the archipelago was marked today by 23 Turkish fighters (15 of whom were carrying weapons), 2 Turkish naval cooperation aircraft (an ATR-72 and a CN-235) and two Turkish UAVs flying into the FIR from Athens without filing a flight plan.


In 8 cases, the process of interception by the Greek fighters turned into a virtual dogfight.


As revealed by GEETHA, 20 air traffic rule violations were registered in the Athens FIR, which evolved into 78 violations of the national airspace of the islands of the archipelago: 42 violations by the 2 UAVs and 36 violations by the fighters (including 9 pairs and one Trio of Turkish F-16s and 1 pair of Turkish F-4s).


In all cases, the Turkish aircraft were identified and intercepted by corresponding Greek fighter jets in accordance with international rules and standard tactics, while in 8 cases the interception process escalated into combat.


It is recalled that two of the violations of national airspace were committed by two Turkish F-16 pairs flying at 27,000 feet over Divunia and Kamilonisi Kasos in the morning.

 

[Dai Toruko]

It looks like Greece will be the first country who defeated by drone swarms. I don't understand why Greeks trying to trigger Turks and gain an advantage from each conflict without knowing their limits. Somehow, it always ends with Greek complaint letters to the UN and losing some lands to the Turks. As they try harder, they lose faster..Just stay where tf you are. Each time, the USA gives them this courage and it ends in disaster against the Greeks.

 

[Foinikas]

It looks like Greece will be the first country who defeated by drone swarms. I don't understand why Greeks trying to trigger Turks and gain an advantage from each conflict without knowing their limits. Somehow, it always ends with Greek complaint letters to the UN and losing some lands to the Turks. As they try harder, they lose faster..Just stay where tf you are. Each time, the USA gives them this courage and it ends in disaster against the Greeks.

Didn't you read the previous post? You wankers appeared out of nowhere in the path of the B-52 and then flew over our FIR.

 

[Oublious]

this is when you think you own the Turkish airspace as your own...


a lot fo bs from Greec MoD...

For people who don't now wher the island is...


580 km away from Greece mainland..

I doubt it. You're both NATO vassals and will do as you're told.


Ikr, nothing happened or will happen.

poorsians....

 

[Foinikas]

580 km away from Greece mainland..

So? And you know where Alaska is in the US?

 

[Oublious]

So? And you know where Alaska is in the US?

Turkish airforce does not need to ask permission from Greece island to fly above Turkish airspace lol. 10 miles airspace does not exist....

 

[Foinikas]

Turkish airforce does not need to ask permission from Greece island to fly above Turkish airspace lol. 10 miles airspace does not exist....

Flying over someone's island is basically violation of FIR,it's basically flying over a sovereign nation's territory. And you just admitted you did just that.

 

[Oublious]

Flying over someone's island is basically violation of FIR,it's basically flying over a sovereign nation's territory. And you just admitted you did just that.

Your are dumb, i waited you to correct me but it looks like you do not have any idea what the problem is. If the Greece media says go jump from a building you will do it. Turkish F-16 wher ther for perform escort mission, the US B-52 what was taked off from Greece island and Turkish fighters would escort them to ther destination. this is a Nato operation and looks like Greece airforce do not understand how operations works in Nato.

 

[Foinikas]

Turkish F-16 wher ther for perform escort mission, the US B-52 what was taked off from Greece island and Turkish fighters would escort them to ther destination.

That's what your MoD says Americans would have notified HAF about Turkish escort of the B-52 since it was a NATO exercise,but apparently you guys just wanted to show off.

Also,if you fly over our islands without being invited,you'll be locked on

 

[Akritas]

The following map is from Eurocontrol, which is the official control body of the FIR of Europe, among those of FIR Athens and FIR Instanbul.

And the question to the Turkish members of the forum is this: where exactly the incident happened, because according to the Greek side, the Turks NEVER filed a flight plan, as required from ICAO and Eurocntrol and as the Americans did.

And let me be clear: No Turkish fighter plane submits a flight plan to the Athens FIR, hence the fuss in the Aegean, where the Greek fighters lock the Turkish ones.

 

[TNT]

The following map is from Eurocontrol, which is the official control body of the FIR of Europe, among those of FIR Athens and FIR Instanbul.


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And the question to the Turkish members of the forum is this: where exactly the incident happened, because according to the Greek side, the Turks NEVER filed a flight plan, as required from ICAO and Eurocntrol and as the Americans did.

And let me be clear: No Turkish fighter plane submits a flight plan to the Athens FIR, hence the fuss in the Aegean, where the Greek fighters lock the Turkish ones.


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That map seems totally unfair, how can u claim all of the sea? Even the ones few KMs from Turkish mainland? Where is the Turkish continental shelf? It seems greeks somehow want to legalize their illegitimate claims.

 

[Akritas]

this is when you think you own the Turkish airspace as your own...


a lot fo bs from Greec MoD...

For people who don't now wher the island is...


580 km away from Greece mainland..


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poorsians....

So?
Kastelorizo is a Greek territory, actually is belonging to the FIR Athens.
Greece controls not only the Greek national airspace, but also the international airspace of the area.
Likewise, from Kastellorizo the boundary line runs south as far as the 34th parallel, where it turns west towards the Libyan Sea, reaching the 19th meridian.

That map seems totally unfair, how can u claim all of the sea? Even the ones few KMs from Turkish mainland? Where is the Turkish continental shelf? It seems greeks somehow want to legalize their illegitimate claims.

For flight safety and SAR reasons. Unless you think everyone has the ability to cover larger spaces.
For each FIR there is a ground-based center in the state responsible for it, which undertakes to control and coordinate all of the airspace, and to provide advice and information, following the regulations and the standard protocols that have been established by the ICAO.
The FIR takes its name after the control center on the ground. Thus, we do not refer to
the Greek FIR or the Cypriot FIR, but rather the Athens FIR and the Nicosia FIR. It can be the case that a state can be responsible for more than one FIR.
Thus Turkey has two FIRs: the Istanbul FIR and the Ankara FIR.

This the map that have all the Europe FIR's.