Greece radar locks Turkish F-16 jets during NATO mission

[MMM-E]

Applications of FIR rules are mandatory for all, whether it is a military or civilian aircraft. If this aircraft enters the FIR, without a flight plan, i.e. without a permit, then it is recognized by fighter aircraft, and if it is assessed that there is a flight safety risk, then it is shot down.
Finally, the FIR limits are internationally recognized, and in Europe they following the directives of Eurocontrol and ICAO.
As regards the issue, Turkey always violates the FIR Athens , because it is very simple is the source of a hotbed of problems, the troublemaker of the Eastern Mediterranean.

You are still lying .. nothing else

everbody knows that Military aircraft do not have to report their flight plans when fliying in international air space

stop lying and read Article 3 of the Chicago Convention


Article 3
Civil and state aircraft
(a) This Convention shall be applicable only to civil aircraft, and shall not be applicable to state aircraft.

(b) Aircraft used in military, customs and police services shall be deemed to be state aircraft.


F-16 is belong to military , that means F-16 is a state aircraft , but not civil
and according to Article 3 of the Chicago Convention , FIR shall be applicable only to civil aircrafts

https://www.refworld.org/pdfid/3ddca0dd4.pdf

Get out with your FIR Athens and civil aviation
We are Turkish Airforce and a civil aviation can not rule a military Aircraft

 

[MMM-E]

How would you feel if they flew Russian MiGs to Corsica, without filing a flight plan, because it says they are....military?

What a stupid post from you


Turkish F-16s arent flying to Greece or Greek Islands
Turkish F-16s dont enter Greek Airspace

Turkish F-16s are flying in international air space in our territory ( Turkiye has costline to the Aegean and eastern Mediterranean )

wth are Russian MIGs doing in Corsica ? what a silly comparison

 

[Akritas]

Turkish F-16s are flying in international air space in our territory ( Turkiye has costline to the Aegean and eastern Mediterranean )

Define with map, the international territory and the so called F-16 lock by Greek S300, near to Rodos island, in order to see who is stupid or not.

Turkish F-16s arent flying to Greece or Greek Islands
Turkish F-16s dont enter Greek Airspace

Of course they do.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Applications of FIR rules are mandatory for all, whether it is a military or civilian aircraft. If this aircraft enters the FIR, without a flight plan, i.e. without a permit, then it is recognized by fighter aircraft, and if it is assessed that there is a flight safety risk, then it is shot down.
Finally, the FIR limits are internationally recognized, and in Europe they following the directives of Eurocontrol and ICAO.

As regards the issue, Turkey always violates the FIR Athens , because it is very simple is the source of a hotbed of problems, the troublemaker of the Eastern Mediterranean.

How would you feel if they flew Russian MiGs to Corsica, without filing a flight plan, because it says they are....military?

Flight information region (FIR/UIR) charts - 2024

Here you will find charts depicting the flight information region (FIR/UIR) in Europe, for the lower and upper airspaces.

www.eurocontrol.int

You are aware that ICAO stands for International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO)

 

[Foinikas]

Today I saw on the news a video from a Turkish TV program,where they had a map depicting the S-300 in Crete covering half the Aegean. It was simply fake.

The space that is covered by the S-300s in Crete is about this:

First of all,our MoD and Armed Forces deny that we locked on to Turkish fighters. If Turkey wants to go to NATO and the US to show how we did it and when,ok. They can probably spot fake radar signatures.

Second,if the S-300s really did get radar lock on the Turkish F-16s...what's the big deal? They didn't get a missile lock. What's all the fuss about?

 

[MMM-E]

Define with map, the international territory and the so called F-16 lock by Greek S300, near to Rodos island, in order to see who is stupid or not.

Dont worry , Turkiye sent Radar information to NATO



Defense Minister HULUSI AKAR .. 02.09.2022

Greece radar locks Turkish F-16s in NATO mission and stated that the coordination of this mission started in July

As of July 2, the activity was reported to all NATO channels, everyone learned about it.
It is impossible not to have learned. And yet, Greece radar locks our F-16s, which were doing their NATO duty. Greece made an extremely denial and false statement, saying, "We didn't know these were Turkish F-16s "


We have always and everywhere responded to this perversion of Greece
and we will continue to do so. It is out of the question for us to take a step back in our rights and interests in any way.
We have sensitively protected the rights and interests of our country and nation, and we will continue to do so


Defense Minister HULUSI AKAR
Reminding that Greece made an invasion attempt in 1919-1922 with the encouragement and support of France and The UK
as a result of this, Greece, which was frustrated, hung its Prime Ministers, Generals and even the Chief of Staff.

We have repeatedly reminded Greece
not to embark on a similar adventure, not to get into trouble again, not to suffer a major blow again, to abandon these attempts that will result in disappointment, and to learn from history

 

[MMM-E]

Of course they do.

İts your stupid claims
Turkish F-16s are flying in international airspace

and Greek Islands have both 6 nm territorial water and air space
but Greece is dreaming about 10 nm air space over Islands .... what a stupid dream

what a charlatanism by Greece

 

[MMM-E]

The space that is covered by the S-300s in Crete is about this:

We are talking about Radar range and Radar lock

Greece has modernized S300 with 300 km radar range and 200 km missile range

 

[Foinikas]

Dont worry , Turkiye sent Radar information to NATO

You haven't sent it to NATO yet. You're still "threatening" that you will. Go send it.

Defense Minister HULUSI AKAR .. 02.09.2022

Greece radar locks Turkish F-16s in NATO mission and stated that the coordination of this mission started in July

As of July 2, the activity was reported to all NATO channels, everyone learned about it.
It is impossible not to have learned. And yet, Greece radar locks our F-16s, which were doing their NATO duty. Greece made an extremely denial and false statement, saying, "We didn't know these were Turkish F-16s "

Akar is a man of contradictions. He contradicts himself in speeches and interviews.

On one hand,he blames Greece of "starting an arms race",on the other his country and military under him have gone into an insane weapons production the last 10 years,in all kinds of fields.

On one hand,he says Greece cannot compete with Turkey,whatever Greece buys is not enough,on the other hand he is annoyed so much by what we purchase,that he keeps talking about it for months.

He says that Turkey is out of Greece's league and Turkey could easily give us a lesson,only to claim that the tiny garrisons of infantry on the islands are a threat to Turkey.

He says it's provocative for the Greek Prime Minister and President of Democracy to visit Greek islands close to Turkey,but has no problem with Turkish politicians visiting the Muslim minority in Thrace and talking about "Bati Trakya".

One day he says "we will throw you in the sea just like your ancestors",the next he says "Greeks are bad neighbors and don't contribute to good neighborly relations".

Akar is just like Erdogan and Cavusoglu. A sneaky,lying,propagandist. That's what the man is. He is a good MoD for his country,but a warhawk.

 

[MMM-E]

Second,if the S-300s really did get radar lock on the Turkish F-16s...what's the big deal? They didn't get a missile lock. What's all the fuss about?

Greece has no any right to do it , when Turkish F-16s in international airspace
even We are not talking about Turkish F-16s were in NATO duty

its not a computer game , Greece's provocations and illegal actions could have started a conflict

Akar is a man of contradictions. He contradicts himself in speeches and interviews.

On one hand,he blames Greece of "starting an arms race",on the other his country and military under him have gone into an insane weapons production the last 10 years,in all kinds of fields.

Dont compare tiny Greece with regional power Turkiye who needs very strong Armed Forces to match with

-- France-Greece in the Eastern Mediterranean
-- Russia,İran,SAA in Idlib/Syria
-- USA-France backed PKK/YPG in Syria
-- PKK , İran in İraq
-- Armenia
-- Russia , France , Egypt , The Uae , LNA in Libya
-- Also Turkish military bases in Azerbaijan , Somalia and Qatar


tiny Greece in an arms race with regional power Turkiye

He says that Turkey is out of Greece's league and Turkey could easily give us a lesson,only to claim that the tiny garrisons of infantry on the islands are a threat to Turkey.

He talking about illegal attempts by Greece to violate Treaty of Lausanne 1923

Akar is just like Erdogan and Cavusoglu. A sneaky,lying,propagandist. That's what the man is. He is a good MoD for his country,but a warhawk.

know your place you liar little puppets ( MICOTAKIS , DENDIAS )

USA-France says jump and little puppets ( MICOTAKIS , DENDIAS ) says how long sir


as a result of this 1919-1922 , Greece was frustrated, hung its Prime Ministers, Generals and even the Chief of Staff. because of losing war against the Turks

 

[Foinikas]

Greece has no any right to do it , when Turkish F-16s in international airspace
even We are not talking about Turkish F-16s were in NATO duty

its not a computer game , Greece's provocations and illegal actions could have started a conflict

If it's not a computer game,then don't fly over our islands and islets with your fighter jets and UAVs. Simple as that.

He talking about illegal attempts by Greece to violate Treaty of Lausanne 1923

As I have explained to you numerous times,quoting sources like the Lausanne Treaty itself,what Akar is talking about has absolutely no validity.

Dont compare tiny Greece with regional power Turkiye who needs very strong Armed Forces to match with

-- France-Greece in the Eastern Mediterranean
-- Russia,İran,SAA in Idlib/Syria
-- USA-France backed PKK/YPG in Syria
-- PKK , İran in İraq
-- Armenia
-- Russia , France , Egypt , The Uae , LNA in Libya
-- Also Turkish military bases in Azerbaijan , Somalia and Qatar

Then are you afraid of tiny Greece locking on your superpower Air Force or having a few soldiers on remote islands?

now your place you liar little puppets ( MICOTAKIS , DENDIAS )

USA-France says jump and little puppets ( MICOTAKIS , DENDIAS ) says how long sir

If you have something new to say,say it. If you don't,we're tired of listening to the same song playing all day in your studio.

 

[MMM-E]

If it's not a computer game,then don't fly over our islands and islets with your fighter jets and UAVs. Simple as that.

İts your lies

Turkish F-16s are flying in international airspace

Greek Islands have both 6 nm territorial water and air space
but Greece is dreaming about 10 nm air space over Islands .... what a stupid dream

stop dreaming about 10 nm air space over Islands

As I have explained to you numerous times,quoting sources like the Lausanne Treaty itself,what Akar is talking about has absolutely no validity.

Bandit Greeks violate the Lausanne Treaty 1923

"" arming the islands ""

Ok Greeks wants to get slapped again as like 1922 , 1996 , 1974

 

[Foinikas]

ts your lies

Turkish F-16s are flying in international airspace

Greek Islands have both 6 nm territorial water and air space
but Greece is dreaming about 10 nm air space over Islands .... what a stupid dream

stop dreaming about 10 nm air space over Islands

YOU FLY OVER ISLANDS AND ISLETS BELONGING TO GREECE! And you do that often!

Even YOU admitted that your Air Force flew next to the Alexandroupolis base.What was it doing there? In Greek Air Space and Naval Waters?

Bandit Greeks violate the Lausanne Treaty 1923

"" arming the islands ""

How many times do you need to be shown the documents of the Treaty of Lausanne,Paris and Montreaux? Are you retarded? Are you mentally handicapped? Be a man and admit that you're wrong.

 

[MMM-E]

YOU FLY OVER ISLANDS AND ISLETS BELONGING TO GREECE! And you do that often!

We are flying in international airspace .. Greece Islands have 6nm airspace , not 10 nm

and when we flying in 10 nm , Greece says Turkish jets violate our airspace

How many times do you need to be shown the documents of the Treaty of Lausanne,Paris and Montreaux? Are you retarded? Are you mentally handicapped? Be a man and admit that you're wrong.

You are saying that dont show agreements
and admit Greek wet dreams

Are you mentally handicapped ? be real men and stick to the agreements you signed

 

[Akritas]

Turkish F-16s are flying in international airspace

Again, you see, Turkey's tactics are Goebbels' tactics, that is, repeated lies.

So, International airspace is monitored by the FIR, which has every right to control any aircraft, military or civilian.
Especially for Europe, and after the events of 9/11, every aircraft that enters in a FIR that is under the jurisdiction of Eurocontrol, must have filed a flight plan.
Turkey, as usual, does not recognize the limits of the FIR Athens, and violates it. In other words, we are not talking about the 6 or 10 nautical miles of the Greek national space, but about the entire Eastern Aegean, as well as the area south of Kastellorizo islands complex.


Regarding the violations of the Greek National Airspace by Turkish air force aircraft, this is a daily occurrence, especially on the small islands, which is why it is part of the sanctions from the USA.

And I put the FIR's map of the area again.