President of the UAE is talking about selling Mirage 2000-9 to Greece.

[Foinikas]

Who cares about terrorist supporter USA and France ? Nobody
We don't trust them

USA doesnt sell PATRIOT , even maybe F-16V
France blocked agreement between EUROSAM and Turkiye to develop AD System

still they are crying about S400s ...

USA-France wants to turn Turkish Air Force into another İranian Air Force

Oh man,what does that rhetoric and irrelevant comments have to do with reality and F-16s?

F-16s are belong to Turkiye and we will do what we want
No need any permission ... if no American kits , then there Turkish kits for block70 standard

Because if Americans don't let you,you can't do it. And your "indigenous upgrade" alchemies will be inferior to anything legit.

Head of Defense Industry Prof. Dr. İsmail Demir, 10 August 2022

We definitely do the F-16 modernization ourselves. And we do very well.

OH NO! Professor Ismail Demir said that?! Then you must really be doing it very well!

 

[MMM-E]

First flight in 2025 and "dozens" by 2027 produced? We'll see. If it works and if you can produce it in big numbers by then.

You are talking about the TFX .. first flight in 2025


I am talking about KIZILELMA first flight in the first quarter of 2023 ... and in service by 2025

and BAYKAR has capability to produce 72 KIZILELMA in 2 years ... good luck you will need it

BAYKAR's production capability ( annually )

500 TB-2
36 AKINCI
36 KIZILELMA

Because if Americans don't let you,you can't do it. And your "indigenous upgrade" alchemies will be inferior to anything legit.

We will do it as like İran ..... İran still flying with F-14s

and our systems are better than American block70 package , including Aselsan MURAD Gan based AESA Radar instead of AN APG-80 GaAs based AESA Radar


even RAFALE Jet use RBE2 AESA Radar with 838 GaAs modules
Turkish Aselsan MURAD AESA Radar has 1.000 GAN modules

GAN technology is superior ....

 

[Foinikas]

and BAYKAR has capability to produce 72 KIZILELMA in 2 years ... good luck you will need it

Let's see how it goes first and then you can boast about making so many in two years.

and our systems are better than American block70 package , including Aselsan MURAD Gan based AESA Radar instead of AN APG-80 GaAs based AESA Radar

@Akritas @F-22Raptor @jhungary @KAL-EL @Deino @aryobarzan @Ghostkiller @Hydration @Darius77 @mohsen @RescueRanger @Beny Karachun

 

[Trango Towers]

Stop complaining,I didn't start anything. You acted like a jerk,I talked to you politely,you kept acting like a jerk and I said "you talk out of your ***". Then you went crazy,insulting,mocking and using racial slur.

Stop complaining,you are the one who always starts trouble and ends up insulting others and using bad language. That's why you get banned every month. If anyone reads the post history,he will see how it all started by you trying to flame again.

Listen SUPER GRASS don't address's me..
No one likes a grass. Coward Greek. You start and then run to mods. Go on report this as well . 100% proved Coward.

As you saying to me that
' you talk out of your *** isn't an insult' @Amaa'n still no action...then me replying to this Greek super grass is wrong?

 

[MMM-E]

@Akritas @F-22Raptor @jhungary @KAL-EL @Deino @aryobarzan @Ghostkiller @Hydration @Darius77 @mohsen @RescueRanger @Beny Karachun

You call ignorant team again


I am saying again

American AN-APG80 and French RB2 AESA use 1990's technology GaAS modules

French RBE2 AESA Radar with 838 GaAs modules
Turkish Aselsan MURAD AESA Radar has 1.000 GAN modules

GAN technology is superior ....

Aselsan MURAD AESA Radar is at least as capable as the APG-83 in the F-16 Viper


Aselsan 450 km CAFRAD naval AESA Radar and 600 km EIRS ealy warning AESA Radar also use GAN technology

 

[Foinikas]

You call ignorant team again


I am saying again

American AN-APG80 and French RB2 AESA use 1990's technology GaAS modules

French RBE2 AESA Radar with 838 GaAs modules
Turkish Aselsan MURAD AESA Radar has 1.000 GAN modules

GAN technology is superior ....

Aselsan MURAD AESA Radar is at least as capable as the APG-83 in the F-16 Viper

Then why do you want F-16Vs from USA? Why don't you upgrade them all with you indigenous superior technology?

 

[MMM-E]

Then why do you want F-16Vs from USA? Why don't you upgrade them all with you indigenous superior technology?

We do it for 35 F-16 block 30 full of indigenous technology

Turkiye wants to buy more 40 Jets ( F-16V )
and if NO American kits , then we do it for 79 block40 and 50s with indigenous technology

 

[Foinikas]

We do it for 35 F-16 block 30 full of indigenous technology

Turkiye wants to buy more 40 Jets ( F-16V )
and if NO American kits , then we do it for 79 block40 and 50s with indigenous technology

You have enough F-16s,why don't you upgrade most of them?

 

[MMM-E]

You have enough F-16s,why don't you upgrade most of them?

Turkiye joined the JSF program buying 100 F-35A to replace old F-4 fleet and 35 F-16 block30s

İf No 100 F-35A , then

-- 40 new F-16V
-- modernization of 35 F-16 block30s to block70 standard
-- modernization of 79 F-16s block50s to block70 standard

and BAYKAR has capability to produce 72 KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jets in 2 years 2025-2027

 

[Akritas]

Let's see how it goes first and then you can boast about making so many in two years.


@Akritas @F-22Raptor @jhungary @KAL-EL @Deino @aryobarzan @Ghostkiller @Hydration @Darius77 @mohsen @RescueRanger @Beny Karachun

Action and facts speak:
on the one hand, a Turkish radar, which has been in development since.... 2018, has installed in a Turkish F-16 first generation block 15, Turks do not give details if it also works with the other parts such as the self-protection systems.
on the other hand, a radar which has been installed in over 200 airplanes, and will installed in over 300 airplanes in the next 5 years.

 

[MMM-E]

Action and facts speak:
on the one hand, a Turkish radar, which has been in development since.... 2018, has installed in a Turkish F-16 first generation block 15, Turks do not give details if it also works with the other parts such as the self-protection systems.
on the other hand, a radar which has been installed in over 200 airplanes, and will installed in over 300 airplanes in the next 5 years.

Turkish Air Force has no block15 ... but 35 F-16 block30s


Aselsan has already latest technology GAN based AESA Radars

100 km STR Weapon Detection Radar
450 km CAFRAD naval Radar
600 km EIRS early warning Radar

and Aselsan MURAD AESA Radar will be putted into AKINCI UCAV in 2022
F-16s and KIZILELMA also will use MURAD AESA Radar


and we dont need American EW suite
even now 60 CCIP modernized F-16s use Aselsan SPEWS-II Electronic Warfare self protection suite

 

[Akritas]

Aselsan MURAD AESA Radar

Same again, not ready, still developing.
Your people say it, they calculate the end of the trials at.....2025.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1558401850491142146

 

[MMM-E]

Same again, not ready, still developing.
Your people say it, they calculate the end of the trials at.....2025.

According to Head of Defense Industry Prof. Dr. İsmail Demir
Aselsan MURAD AESA Radar will be putted into AKINCI UCAV in 2022

about F-16 OZGUR modernization in 2023
and after the the final test phases Turkish F-16s will be equipped with MURAD AESA Radar

Greece will have 84 F-16V until 2027-2028

 

[Foinikas]

According to Head of Defense Industry Prof. Dr. İsmail Demir

about F-16 OZGUR modernization in 2023
and after the the final test phases Turkish F-16s will be equipped with MURAD AESA Radar

And yet you want to buy 40 F-16Vs like crazy. You've been asking for F-16Vs,checking out the possibility of Eurofighters and all this while you personally try to convince us that with Turkish local modernizations,KE and Akinci are more than enough to give you superiority in the region. And that Turkish upgrades are even better than American original ones.

Something is really weird...

 

[Akritas]

Greece will have 84 F-16V until 2027-2028

Greece already has three F-16V , one in the US and two in the Hellenic Aerospace Industry.
The last two will be delivered to the Hellenic Air Force on September 15.
This is how the programs are progressing, without delays, which is why Turkey wants 80 kits and 40 new F-16V at all costs, because the turkish programs are not progressing.