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Capabilities of PAF Dassault MIRAGE-III/V.

Should Pakistan upgrade its Mirages to South African Cheetah standard if not Beyond?

  • Yes

    Votes: 181 59.0%
  • No

    Votes: 126 41.0%

  • Total voters
    307
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PAF hands are tied in case of even old F16s, at present PAF has no liberty to arm their F16s with required ground attack ammo only limited options available for defensive roles they are good only for air combat. However their edge in A2A role shall be lost buy 2018-19 when IAF starts induction Rafael.

PAF should immediately look for another 4.5th gen fighter as gap filler.
one of the world's most accurate air to ground weapons "JDAMS" are available for F-16 only in PAF and PAF is not going to use them for air to air roles.
 
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Gbu32, 38, plus latest version of laser guided dual mode GPS cu m laser gbu12, 24 and finally bunker buster 109- paf opted for these as they are less expensive jsow- was too expensive and RAAD plus h2/h4 are cheaper and available same is the case for 9x 500k-per round vs 100k 9m paf prefered paying 500-per aim120s may be in future these will be bought
 
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Gbu32, 38, plus latest version of laser guided dual mode GPS cu m laser gbu12, 24 and finally bunker buster 109- paf opted for these as they are less expensive jsow- was too expensive and RAAD plus h2/h4 are cheaper and available same is the case for 9x 500k-per round vs 100k 9m paf prefered paying 500-per aim120s may be in future these will be bought
Pakistan can get something similar to the JSOW in the form of China's YJ-6/GB-6. I hope the PAF can secure precision-guided bomblet technology similar to the BLU-108. Paired with the GB-6 this would provide a credible capability against armour.
 
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one of the world's most accurate air to ground weapons "JDAMS" are available for F-16 only in PAF and PAF is not going to use them for air to air roles.
Sorry sir facts do not support your statement as JDAM is mere 28KM range can't be an alternate of Cruise Missiles like RAAD which we can easily integrate with JF17s in near future and already done with Mirage. However in case of F16s PAF will/shall not get any sort of permission /access to integrate hi tech missiles which may prove to be a real threat to Indians. Paf even can't get in recent scenario the AMRAAM 120 C-7 or AIM-X along AESA or IRST i.e V up grade.
Please deny me with solid facts.
 
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Is this newly rebuild plane. Looking very fresh. Why are these ex labanese place radome painted grey while ex Australian mirage 3 are painted black ?

Most of our Mirage 3 comes with grey and dark color and mirage 5 with green camo pattern.
The Naval Squadron of Mirage 5 got blue belly.

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The upgraded ones looks like this!

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Sorry sir facts do not support your statement as JDAM is mere 28KM range can't be an alternate of Cruise Missiles like RAAD which we can easily integrate with JF17s in near future and already done with Mirage. However in case of F16s PAF will/shall not get any sort of permission /access to integrate hi tech missiles which may prove to be a real threat to Indians. Paf even can't get in recent scenario the AMRAAM 120 C-7 or AIM-X along AESA or IRST i.e V up grade.
Please deny me with solid facts.
the only problem with JFT when compared with F-16 is there is always too much use of future tense. it WILL have this and it WILL have that. currently JFT is ahead of our F-16 is in anti ship role. otherwise it lags behind the falcon in every role. that's why PAF uses F-16s extensively in western sector.
 
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PAF hands are tied in case of even old F16s, at present PAF has no liberty to arm their F16s with required ground attack ammo only limited options available for defensive roles they are good only for air combat. However their edge in A2A role shall be lost buy 2018-19 when IAF starts induction Rafael.

PAF should immediately look for another 4.5th gen fighter as gap filler.
How so.
 
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the only problem with JFT when compared with F-16 is there is always too much use of future tense. it WILL have this and it WILL have that. currently JFT is ahead of our F-16 is in anti ship role. otherwise it lags behind the falcon in every role. that's why PAF uses F-16s extensively in western sector.

So u deny near future Block-iii which is being confirmed by PAF officials and secondly JFT in it's current state is simply more capable in A2G role as any missile can be integrated with it unlike our F16s. The only advantage F16 has is A2A role which is going to be lost from 2018-19 when IAF starts induction of Rafael, similarly IAF is also interested in single engine 4.5th gen jet.

U are already well informed regarding Rafael capabilities and expected Gripen induction. Meanwhile facts showing our F16s will/shall not get V upgrade.
 
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Most of our Mirage 3 comes with grey and dark color and mirage 5 with green camo pattern.
The Naval Squadron of Mirage 5 got blue belly.

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The upgraded ones looks like this!

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thanks for the info but my question was

1 - why mirage 3 EL [Lebanese] are having grey radome while mirage 3 O [Australian] having black radome as follows

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compare to Lebanese

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or shy some of them has black nose while others have grey? any idea?
 
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So u deny near future Block-iii which is being confirmed by PAF officials and secondly JFT in it's current state is simply more capable in A2G role as any missile can be integrated with it unlike our F16s. The only advantage F16 has is A2A role which is going to be lost from 2018-19 when IAF starts induction of Rafael, similarly IAF is also interested in single engine 4.5th gen jet.


U are already well informed regarding Rafael capabilities and expected Gripen induction. Meanwhile facts showing our F16s will/shall not get V upgrade.
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Low level penetrating aircraft or attack and camouflage colour as the interceptor looking from above have difficulty looking down with ground in the background while their belly is blue if they fly high interceptor pilot will have difficulty catching with human eye against blue sky interceptor flying high above are gray so looking up against sky are difficult to detect by human eye mirage with Grifo radar are grey while rest camo and blue ;)
 
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