Turkish Minister of National Defense Yaşar Güler: We are considering purchasing 40 Eurofighter Typhoons

[LegionnairE]

Eurofighter would be a nightmare for Turkey bcuz u will have to bend over backwards to please all the countries involved. At least with F16s it would be just the US that Turkey would have to deal with.

Secondly with F16s(more airframes)..TuAF is already well versed with it...Turkey can upgrade those in house bringing them to Ozgur standard and because Turkey already operates F16s in numbers...it would be much simpler in terms of logistics as compared to adding another type of jet.

In terms of threats...Russia is too invested(in terms of manpower and resources) to pose a meaningful threat to Turkey(especially in context of full NATO backing). Greece is the only main threat(due to longstanding disputes)...and IMO Turkey is well equipped to deal with that

No matter what you do, F-16 was designed in the 1970s and can't compete with EF, it's just not enough.

In terms of threats, you seem to be living under a rock or something. Why do you think Israel is destroying Gaza right now? Mediterranean? Oil and Gas Reserves? HEllooo!

 

[LegionnairE]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1724857439357399117

He's throwing empty threats at Israel. We're never getting the EF now,

@LeGenD
we can close the thread now lol

 

[Cookie Monster]

No matter what you do, F-16 was designed in the 1970s and can't compete with EF, it's just not enough.

In terms of threats, you seem to be living under a rock or something. Why do you think Israel is destroying Gaza right now? Mediterranean? Oil and Gas Reserves? HEllooo!

I'm not living under a rock...I think u r somewhat out of touch with reality...Turkey will not go to war against Israel...
...unless it wants to isolate itself completely from NATO, Europe and basically the entire west...
...which would have dire consequences for Turkey.

Hence why I didn't even mention this(and only Russia and Greece were brought up). U can leave the political rhetoric aside..but the reality is that Turkey(along with many other Muslim countries) isn't going to war against Israel at least not anytime soon.

 

[MMM-E]

Also,shows that the Rafale and F-16V is an important player in the Aegean.

Even S400 and SIPER Block2 will be enough to turn RAFALE and F-16V into scrap of metal in the Aegean

One on One , Greece is a toy for the Turkish Armed Forces
Your RAFALE and F-16V even can not fly safely in the Aegean ...
still you are dreaming about important player

better worry about how to match with Air Defense Missile with speed of mach 4 and range of 250+ km

150+ km SIPER Block2

250+ km SIPER Block2 with booster

We needs enough military power to protect our national interests in Libya , Syria , Azerbaijan , in the Eastern Mediterranean against multiple threats

Turkiye wants 40 Eurofighters to replace outdated F-4s



Minister of National Defence YASAR GULER about F-35 and S400

F-35
Currently, even in USA, most of the F-35s have been grounded. Israel cannot fly its F-35s and constantly attacks America in this regard. Many countries in Europe have problems that are not understood and cannot be solved.

Should we really buy F-35?
My personal opinion; "I'm definitely not a fan of buying F35."

Our main target is our 5th generation national combat aircraft KAAN
KAAN is a 5th generation Fighter Jet. We are working on our own engine. "We will supply the domestic engine in 2028, and KAAN will be flying with our own engine in 2032

S400
We can't just pick up the S400 and deliver it to the corner of a Warehouse. “We press the button when we need it.”

"Everyone who is curious will see what happens when we press the button when we need the S-400."

 

[MMM-E]

Turkish parliamentary commission delays the vote on Sweden’s Nato bid to another round of meeting


Turkish President Erdogan is coming to Berlin-GERMANY for talks with Chancellor Olaf Scholz

if Germany block sale of Eurofighter to Turkiye

then Turkiye will block Sweden's NATO Membership

 

[sutton999]

UAE gives up F35 for Huawei. Turkey is not meant to get F35, it is a good thing, and there is no easy path to strategic autonomy.

was skimming through that book from former Starfor geo strategist-grifter Peter Zeihan.

In that, Japan and Turkey are the two bosses who defeat other non-West powers, only turn against the U.S. at the last minute, gets comfortably destroyed in the end.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Seems like good choice by Turkey to get 40 Euro Fighters, Never put all eggs in one basket

 

[LeGenD]

Even S400 and SIPER Block2 will be enough to turn RAFALE and F-16V into scrap of metal in the Aegean

One on One , Greece is a toy for the Turkish Armed Forces
Your RAFALE and F-16V even can not fly safely in the Aegean ...
still you are dreaming about important player

better worry about how to match with Air Defense Missile with speed of mach 4 and range of 250+ km

150+ km SIPER Block2
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250+ km SIPER Block2 with booster
View attachment 1027775


We needs enough military power to protect our national interests in Libya , Syria , Azerbaijan , in the Eastern Mediterranean against multiple threats

Turkiye wants 40 Eurofighters to replace outdated F-4s



Minister of National Defence YASAR GULER about F-35 and S400

F-35
Currently, even in USA, most of the F-35s have been grounded. Israel cannot fly its F-35s and constantly attacks America in this regard. Many countries in Europe have problems that are not understood and cannot be solved.

Should we really buy F-35?
My personal opinion; "I'm definitely not a fan of buying F35."

Our main target is our 5th generation national combat aircraft KAAN
KAAN is a 5th generation Fighter Jet. We are working on our own engine. "We will supply the domestic engine in 2028, and KAAN will be flying with our own engine in 2032
View attachment 1027778



S400
We can't just pick up the S400 and deliver it to the corner of a Warehouse. “We press the button when we need it.”

"Everyone who is curious will see what happens when we press the button when we need the S-400."
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In First, Russia’s S-300 Fired 13 Missiles At Israeli F-16I Over Syrian Airspace, All 13 Missiles Failed!​

In First, Russia’s S-300 Fired 13 Missiles At Israeli F-16I Over Syrian Airspace, All 13 Missiles Failed!

Israeli F-16I fighter jets are fitted with Rafael Skyshield advanced jamming POD that deceived Russian S-400 and S-300 surface-to-air missiles since Russia deployed its missile system in Syria. Russian forces opened fire on Israeli jets with S-300 anti-aircraft missiles at the end of an...

www.globaldefensecorp.com

Understand something?

Your claims about F-35 are also FALSE.

 

[Yawm al-qiyāma]

This has been discussed during the Type-23 frigate drama.


Because we need it, no matter how much Erdoggy fanboys seethe and cope, getting kicked out of F35 program pushed Turkey into a very difficult spot. We don't even have a response for the Greek Rafale.


It's a bigger disgrace that Erdo keeps begging for the F-16

How can you still want the F35 for Turkiye while US is openly arming and supporting the pkk/ypg etc.

You should do a DNA and bloodtest asap senin gibi Türkün ben ta ana…. avra…. skm

 

[MMM-E]

In First, Russia’s S-300 Fired 13 Missiles At Israeli F-16I Over Syrian Airspace, All 13 Missiles Failed!

American fairy tales from same Website

Russia never fired S300 Missile on Israeli Fighter Jets
Syrian Regime fires AA missiles against Israeli Fighter Jets

and even outdated S200 turned Israeli F-16 into scrap of metal in Syria

and I am talking about S400 and SIPER which uses the latest technologies

Dont compare weak outdated Syrian Regime with one of NATO's main power Turkiye


Turkish Air Force has great technology to hit RAFALE and F-16V


RADARS
-- 450+ km ERALP AESA Radar
-- 600 km MESA Radar on Boeing E-7T AEWC
-- 600 km BIG BIRD Radar

MISSILES
-- 150-250 km SIPER Block2 with speed of mach 4+
-- 240 km 48N6E3 with speed of mach 5,9

Stand alone mode for S400
Network centric warfare for SIPER via Datalinks Link-16 and JREAP-C

 

[Yawm al-qiyāma]

Turkiye should focus on KAAN, Hurjet and modernization/upgrade of the existing F-16’s with Özgür programme. We have enough time until KAAN is ready.

Someone said we are losing the airforce balance vs Greece. This is not true. We still have very capable F-16’s that only needs Özgür upgrade.

secondly Turkish defence industry has been devellopping some very very accurate and destructive Ballistic Missiles which provides us a strong deterrent not only against greece but against the whole region. For example currently every inch and every spot of Greece can be targetted with pinpoint accuracy. Turkiye has reached the capabilities to destroy greece air, land,naval forces by using only ballistic, cruisemissiles and uav’s.

kemalists always try to make greece look far bigger and stronger threat than they actually are. Because kemalist are infact brothers of greeks lol.

 

[Yawm al-qiyāma]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1724857439357399117

He's throwing empty threats at Israel. We're never getting the EF now,

@LeGenD
we can close the thread now lol

Empty threats according to you and some fools on pkdef and social media. But Israel and US government knows very well that this is not an empty threat.

WW3 has already started and Turkiye is on a warmode. Whoever doesnt prepare accordingly will be massacred and wiped out just like the people in Gaza.

Turkiye is preparing for war at this point anything can happen at anytime. Even by tomorrow Turkiye can be at a direct war you have to be blind to not see this.

Brits are trying their best to get Germany in line

Also

https://twitter.com/x/status/1725222465117344121

Turkiye must veto Sweden’s membership until we receive enough consessions from E.U and US. Otherwise it should never be allowed.

 

[LeGenD]

American fairy tales from same Website

Russia never fired S300 Missile on Israeli Fighter Jets
Syrian Regime fires AA missiles against Israeli Fighter Jets

and even outdated S200 turned Israeli F-16 into scrap of metal in Syria

View attachment 1027901



and I am talking about S400 and SIPER which uses the latest technologies

Dont compare weak outdated Syrian Regime with one of NATO's main power Turkiye


Turkish Air Force has great technology to hit RAFALE and F-16V


RADARS
-- 450+ km ERALP AESA Radar
-- 600 km MESA Radar on Boeing E-7T AEWC
-- 600 km BIG BIRD Radar
View attachment 1027903
View attachment 1027905
View attachment 1027909


MISSILES
-- 150-250 km SIPER Block2 with speed of mach 4+
-- 240 km 48N6E3 with speed of mach 5,9
View attachment 1027907
View attachment 1027908


Stand alone mode for S400
Network centric warfare for SIPER via Datalinks Link-16 and JREAP-C

Sorry but every claim in that source is found to be correct. This source discloses realities that many states will not. WE all know how truthful Russians are. You need to stop posting nonsense or I will take action this time.

 

[Trisolaran]

We have to mature, or we're going down a bad path.

Even in JAPAN there's a PKK problem now, why? why? why? There's a historic problem between Turkey and Japan? No. It's because these PKK bastards are very LOUD. They know how to make noise. They know how to spread black propaganda. A mere 20 years ago nobody in the west recognized Armenian "genocide".


We have to fix our image, there's no way around it.

I think image has nothing to do with it. Do you think Russians could make USA an ally of Russia ıf they lobbied even more successfully than the Jews ?
Do Gulf countries care about their image in the West while they rule their countries with medieval management styles?

Our strength is a natural threat to Western hegemony in Africa, Middle East and Eastern Mediterranean. In the eyes of the West we are a tree that always needs to be pruned, They want us as allies, but only if we remain under their control. We were a peaceful country whose biggest goal was to reach the level of western civilizations and said "peace at home peace in the world" and even in that times they supported Asala and later PKK against us..

Coming to my real thought; Among Western countries, I think only the United Kingdom and Spain are logical states and can be our trusted allies. We can cooperate with the Spanish on the navy and the British on aviation, but when it comes to the Eurofighter jet, which the Germans have a say in, Its just cant end well for us..
I think we should try to make partners in this TEI jet engine project through technological support agreements with Japan, South Korea and Ukraine, and economic support agreements with Azerbaijan and Qatar, and we should develop this partnership as much as possible and shorten the time for KAAN and Hürjet to enter service as much as possible.

 

[Yawm al-qiyāma]

UAE gives up F35 for Huawei. Turkey is not meant to get F35, it is a good thing, and there is no easy path to strategic autonomy.

was skimming through that book from former Starfor geo strategist-grifter Peter Zeihan.

In that, Japan and Turkey are the two bosses who defeat other non-West powers, only turn against the U.S. at the last minute, gets comfortably destroyed in the end.

F35 is an extremely expensive plane with alot of strings attached. Even if a country operates the F35 they will never be 100% under its own control (ofcourse Israel is an exception). In Turkiye’s case these planes can never be used independently in COIN ops in Syria or Northern Iraq or even in a conflict with Greece it cant be used. Pretty much every issue which is not in the interest of US we cant use this plane at our own will.

So im asking the Turkish F35 fanboys wtf are you going to do with F35 if we cant use it as we want it?? are you going to shove it up your azz??