Solution for Indian occupied Kashmir ? Liberation.

[cerberus]

Simple solution. Arm the freedom fighters and provide them with all means of support. The Saudis and Iranians and the Yanks and the West support various factions in Syria and Iraq - some questionable. The Kashmiri cause is not questionable, it's a moral cause. The chickens will come home to roost, Pakistan needs to become very aggressive and assertive here. With the right tools and with more local support, the occupation forces will become piles of corpses in no time



you are aware that Ahmedis are pro Pakistan and supported the 1947 revolution right, dummy?

Hahaha last time Pakistan

Was aggressive force

90,000 of them were pulled like cattle and thrown into a goods train from Dhaka to India savings there life's from hostile Bengali population

Go search BBC made documentary of it.

As for local support don't think
Few majority Sunni Wahhabi district as whole Muslims


Shia openly despise them so are
Are Gujjar Muslims

Ladakhi Muslim think them as invaders as they Sufi

Jammu is a different picture you know it

 

[dadeechi]

you are aware that Ahmedis are pro Pakistan and supported the 1947 revolution right, dummy?

The question is do they support now?

 

[cerberus]

The question is do they support now?

No they won't after wahhabism of the Sunni majority of the Valley

ISIS flag are flown into the valley by the extremists

Making minorities think 2 times before supporting there cause
Pakistan Army no this
That's why there only mute spectator in this

 

[cloud4000]

Pakistan cannot do anything to help the Kashmiris: not politically, not militarily, not economically, not diplomatically. Every analyst and commentator in Pakistan media ends their comments the same way: Pakistan is weak and cannot do anything until it gets stronger.

Even the most die-hard pro-Pakistani Kashmiri knows this reality.

 

[neem456]

Solution is simple and that is war.

But pakistan has no capacity and heart to attack india to grab kashmir from its clutches.

 

[cerberus]

Solution is simple and that is war.

But pakistan has no capacity and heart to attack india to grab kashmir from its clutches.

Another 65 hahaha

The time was different dedicated forces like Rastriya rifles ,Gorkha,Dogra ,Ladakh are waiting for them to smell blood

In valley

 

[adil_minhas]

Violence is a mere human reaction to tyranny. If somebody broke into your home, assaulted and humiliated you - killed your family members and blinded you with rubber bullets would you be peaceful? How do you think Burhan Wani was born? The guy was educated and from a wealthy family. Something to think about

Brother India is a democracy. A true democracy. You can protest peacefully an d raise issues politically. But sadly Kashmiri, some Kashmiri not all, have been misled and they take up the gun in the belief they are fighting for themselves. They are not. They are fighting for you. And they are being killed for you. We do not have the luxury to question their motives or their upbringing. Only the fact that they are waging war on the state. And so will be killed. You arm a 1000, a 1000 will be killed. You arm a million, a million will also be killed. Why? Because we have more men and bullets than you have Kashmiri to mislead brother.

 

[cerberus]

Brother India is a democracy. A true democracy. You can protest peacefully an d raise issues politically. But sadly Kashmiri, some Kashmiri not all, have been misled and they take up the gun in the belief they are fighting for themselves. They are not. They are fighting for you. And they are being killed for you. We do not have the luxury to question their motives or their upbringing. Only the fact that they are waging war on the state. And so will be killed. You arm a 1000, a 1000 will be killed. You arm a million, a million will also be killed. Why? Because we have more men and bullets than you have Kashmiri to mislead brother.

They see everything through religious prism

I saw dedicated Muslim youth in our
Army and special forces ready to die for there mother land .

In my profession I usually meet many of such guys wonder what inspire them and their spirit

 

[adil_minhas]

wonder what inspire them and their spirit

Same things that inspire you and your spirit brother.

 

[livingdead]

Simple solution. Arm the freedom fighters and provide them with all means of support. The Saudis and Iranians and the Yanks and the West support various factions in Syria and Iraq - some questionable. The Kashmiri cause is not questionable, it's a moral cause. The chickens will come home to roost, Pakistan needs to become very aggressive and assertive here. With the right tools and with more local support, the occupation forces will become piles of corpses in no time



you are aware that Ahmedis are pro Pakistan and supported the 1947 revolution right, dummy?



and neither is india.....india knows we can flatten every indian city that matters in a matter of minutes

the war will be more covert and it is Kashmiri nationalists who will prevail. They are already winning the information war (despite your failed attempts to silence them)....the next step is the battle-field

which is why we are not fighting to get pak occupied kashmir... I am not the one advocating war, the other dude is..

the freedom fighter route has been tried in 90s, it made life of ordinary kashmiri hell, gave us international sympathy and legitimacy to use brutal methords. Unless you are for land grab(with no sympathy for kashmiris) you wont suggest to do such a thing that had disastrous consequence.
I am not even talking about similar measure against pakistan by India.. a region awashed with gun and illeterate kids.. makes it easy for India, also India can spend more money in destabilizing your country, you wont get kashmir but burn your own house.. wait.. is it not whats going on now?

According to Musharraf, Pakistan can if he play his card right. Which I guess would be launching a blitzkrieg style attack. Taking out major Indian bases and support infrastructure to decapitate Indian defensive capability.There is a reason, Pakistan work extensively on modernizing their missiles than spending money on deep strike fighters.

India's default response will be similar strike into punjab.. and I am quite happy to swap kashmir for punjab.

nor is India.

same as above.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

I think the fact India is abusing human rights in region will flair up anti sentiment across the nation for various people who suffer similar fate

We don't even have to do anything in this case , they keep pressing the self destruct button

4 Separatist movements

• Sikh
• Kashmiri
  
• Assam area
• DalitiDesh

Also i think deep inside people would also be asking question why is it that while British country can have Referendum for Scotland

Canada can have Referendum for Quebec

UK can leave European Union with no blood shed

Then why do people have to die in Kashmir when the people clearly do not wish to remain with India not suddenly but for last 70 years !!!

What India does to the people there is what East Indian company did to whole Subcontinent that is enslaved a group of people who are local to the land their slaves, shot them , killed them used weapons on civilians

On one hand they say that Gandhi THE great liberator , and pacifist, gave the people freedom and then on the other hand , Indian Government feels it is ok use "Violence and killing" against civilians to force them to live as slaves under their Umbrella

This issue of Kashmir is "SENTIMENTAL" mombo jumbo

Would the great PACIFIST would agree to Violence and Aggressive enslavement in Kashmir?

They truth is ....there are people who just want to hate they want to hold on to Kashmir and enslave Kashmiri just for the HELL of it no other reason

When you really look deep down ... why Can't Kashmiri people have right to live happily as a free nation or nation with Pakistan?

Why carry anomosity with Pakistan - what purpose ? There is no reason beyond Kashmir!

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you

Look at England , they moved away from European Union!!! Did European Union Invaded England ? NO , did they perhaps anex Scotland as punishment ? No

The ideological question is

"If they don't want to live in India" why ...why force them to live in India Let them be
after a breif time borders will open anyways but India has to just LET IT GO


EXAMPLE OF USA - Mexico
Another example Mexico - USA , Mexico sold California to USA $$$$ instead of war
Today the nation have close ties open border crossing

10-15% US population has ties with Mexico Free trade agreement !!!



THE ISSUE is the "GRUDGE" why have the GRUDGE?

How would people feel about East Indian company ? If they forced Indian states to still pay them tax? People would argue - you know they STOLE my freedom !!! so I hate East Indian company

So why is it the Kashmiri People can't choose their fate? Are they like not human enough


The issue is abouT Sentimental IJJAT !!!

Western countries focus on treaties and close ties , open border our governments focus on IJJAT

If Kashmiri people are allowed to freely , join Pakistan , our IJJAT will be lowered

Gandhi says , a person is FREE
Gandhi says person is equal , all human are equal
Gandhi says - NO I will not be your (british) slave I want my freedom
Gandhi had some ideas said I want a place of my own that is free , so he did his protest , did the walk

So why can't Kashmiri people cannot be with Pakistan? They are demanding it for 70 years ? They want to walk on at path which they choose freely , just like what Gandhi did when he was dealing with East Indian company etc


Why is india insisting on being the next East India Company ? Is that not against !!! The very principles of any ideological stance for needing a liberation from East India Company ?

Why can't India , understand that the greater good for the region lies with acceptance of the "WILL" of Kashmiri people
And that does not RELATES to a down fall of Indian IJJAT

Instead my friends it would show the world India is confident to win it's freedom and also understand value of freedom to others in its community , that it will not say freedom is my birth right but you others should not be free to choose

For a human , the greatest gift is ability to "Ch0ose" , people of Subcontinent chose a path 100 years ago and some found freedom , so why DENY , the same fruit to few others ? Are they not good enough humans?

In return , just as Mexico - US border now enjoy 100% open travel perhaps the region can prosper to have open travel

Here look OPEN borders , minor questions asked and off you go

Look free travel , there are no Tanks or Weapons pointed at people they are free to travel between 2 different countries obeying and respecting each other's laws

Kashmir would not be shut for Indian visitors instead doors would remain open and other doors would open

Think of this way , lets imagine 1 Billion Indians wanted freedom and 1 King of India said forget that I will sell you to East India company for another 100. Would you really agree to that - THAT YOU CAN'T CHOOSE YOUR DESTINY ?

1 Billion is greater or 1 person ?

That is exactly the same demand Kashmiri people ask
don't take our will to choose , becasue we are greater then 1-2 people who think otherwise

The whole IJJAT stuff is all working of Political system in India to generate vote , all this has done is now crafted a nuclear war scenario over the group of who people who took great pride in winning freedom by means of Dialogue and political stance

 

[cerberus]

I think the fact India is abusing human rights in region will flair up anti sentiment across the nation for various people who suffer similar fate

We don't even have to do anything in this case , they keep pressing the self destruct button

4 Separatist movements

• Sikh
• Kashmiri
  
• Assam area
• DalitiDesh

Also i think deep inside people would also be asking question why is it that while British country can have Referendum for Scotland

Canada can have Referendum for Quebec

UK can leave European Union with no blood shed

Then why do people have to die in Kashmir when the people clearly do not wish to remain with India not suddenly but for last 70 years !!!

Dalit desh mayawati will laugh on this

Recently there election in Assam.

BJP won there by majority
You not even know the state demographics


Elections are itself referendum 9f the Govt work

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

They see everything through religious prism

I saw dedicated Muslim youth in our
Army and special forces ready to die for there mother land .

In my profession I usually meet many of such guys wonder what inspire them and their spirit

in your "profession"

you still live in mommy's basement and i doubt you even have a job

 

[Śakra]

Plz attack us plz.

 

[adil_minhas]

Lol I see this "colonial power" hauwwa is latest parrot line for our brothers next door. One line to the next. Only one thing remains a constant.

Everyone in Pakistan knows they do not have it in them to fight India for Kashmir.

That the Indian Army is chomping at the bit for some payback against their favourite punching bag.