PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

[Zarvan]

The beast is on its way. Finally it's coming home.

 

[siegecrossbow]

I am more worried about the slow production rate of WS-10C engine. You know PLAAF's own J-10C, J-11B (spares needed), J-16, J-16D (electronic fighters), PLAN's J-15A, J-15T (catapult version) ... all waiting for the same exact engine! Even the J-20 (which is supposed to use 18.5 tons class WS-15) is now slicing the already small pie. The shortage is compounded by the fact that China has not ordered a single unit of AL31 since 2017.

I think you underestimate China's engine production capacity.

 

[HRK]

If you have anything for your own information; do not violate the trust of source then. Any pic

bhai shaib he himself is a source .... I think you should recall his work

@TNT if you have no issue could you send me PM .... ??

 

[The Eagle]

Don't want to jump to any conclusions but J-10 may not be the only thing happening.

 

[Trailer23]

Not that I wanna brag, but a lil' over 2 Years back is when the term J-10P became public when someone at CATIC accidently slipped on the 'P' to me at the 2019 DxB Air Show.

a.k.a J-10C ('E' for Export) tailored for International Customers.


SPOILER ALERT: Could be nothing - Could be everything.
The guy was certainly curious why I was taking more interest in the J-10 as opposed to the JF-17 (being a Pakistani). My response was personal preference and the wished/hoped it being in the PAF inventory. His reply was & I quote, "It will be!".
Also which is really important for you guys to know that in our extensive conversation on the J-10 about Avionics, Engines & blah...blah...blah - there was a slip of the tongue when he accidentally said, "...the J-10P". At that point I just froze, but didn't repeat or ask him further to clarify.

 

[The Eagle]

bhai shaib he himself is a source .... I think you should recall his work

@TNT if you have no issue could you send me PM .... ??

Bhai... I was saying for the safe side. You know how sometimes it hits back at us.

 

[TNT]

Any breach of security might lead to perma ban. If you have anything for your own information; do not violate the trust of source then. Any pic/detail might be shared if the Source allows and agrees to do so on purpose permitted officially, without harming Op-Sec/Military Info.

Regards,

There are other things to worry than perma ban lolz. And no i wont share it now, not untill the source allows it.

 

[alphapak]

Man..., you & your obsession with the F-16.

Just because PAF is getting J-10's does NOT mean the higher PAF leadership won't still pursue Vipers.

Now that is an entirely different thing the US doesn't play ball. Which is perfectly fine if they are NOT interested.

Man I am not obseesed with the F16's but there are peeople who still think U.S will sell F16's to Pak. Lol

 

[Jinn Baba]

25 J10 flypast????

He specifically said we have got these jets from China to match the Rafale. So it has to be J10s.

Could JS10 be a special designation?

 

[Ali_Baba]

Wow. This is pretty official to me.

Hopefully the J10Cs will be escorted by JF17 Block III's and hopefully it will be in the lead - and finally displacing the F16 that has taken the lead in flybys for close to 2.5 decades now.

Is there any chance that the $5billion deal announced in 2015, was for 8 S20 submarines, the 300 VT4's, 4 Type 054A/P frigates and 25 J10C's at basically bargin basement prices - ie an offer that was too good to refuse? Did China sell these to Pakistan that the same prices that the PLAN, PLAAF, PLA pay for the same equipment? That $5 billion is the only deal that has been announced with China recently.

China to Deliver Eight S20 Submarines to Pakistan Navy based on PLAN's

China to Deliver Eight S20 Submarines to Pakistan Navy based on PLAN's Type 039A SSK

www.navyrecognition.com

 

[Shotgunner51]

I think you underestimate China's engine production capacity.

Doubt 15-20 engines are going to be an issue
Its more about demand then production

In fact the slow production rate of AECC has plagued the supply chain in past years, not a news, but hopefully AECC has gradually ramped up the production by now. The delay of WS-15 program has compounded the problem, cos some WS-10C are turned to cater for building J-20, wish that could be solved asap.

 

[siegecrossbow]

Doubt 15-20 engines are going to be an issue
Its more about demand then production

You will need more than 15-20. The practice is to keep 1 engine for spare if I am not mistaken.

 

[TNT]

Shared on our space.. We know where I am talking about.. Come over there

Once it's shared, its gone. I dont want to put my source in trouble so i cannot share anything without permission. I have few B3 pics that he would still not allow me to share even though some pics are out.

 

[The Eagle]

There are other things to worry than perma ban lolz. And no i wont share it now, not untill the source allows it.

Yara a ban from the Forum doesn't matter but you know what I was talking about. Such ban is the least we might do here to contain. It was to convey. Good call though.

Man I am not obseesed with the F16's but there are peeople who still think U.S will sell F16's to Pak. Lol

Not the topic here but US didn't decline any request by PAF for F-16. It is something else that the most don't get. Let's get back at the topic please.

 

[HRK]

36 is the order size (source: Journalist Sumaira Khan)