PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

[kursed]

I wonder if @SQ8 would do us the honor of running a simulation involving the newly acquired UAVs (in numbers to confuse the Indian IADS) in conjunctions with J10Cs/JF-17 to launch a first strike at S400 on the other side.

It'd make up for interesting results.

 

[Trailer23]

PL15.

Not getting into the whole J-10 PAF has nothing to gain from the J-10C, because that is absurd.

However, just want to point out that the myth of J-10C being linked to the PL-15 is false. There was no condition set by China to acquire the PL-15.

 

[SQ8]

I wonder if @SQ8 would do us the honor of running a simulation involving the newly acquired UAVs (in numbers to confuse the Indian IADS) in conjunctions with J10Cs/JF-17 to launch a first strike at S400 on the other side.

It'd make up for interesting results.

Lets do it on a separate thread - but that would be interesting to see what they are able to do.

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

Can UAV/UCAV transponders be manipulated to portray a much larger fleet of J-10Cs heading towards the India border or operating near the India border?

Can the enemy's Air Defences be overwhelmed this way or the radars / AWACs can distinguish between fighter aircrafts and drones?

 

[kursed]

Lets do it on a separate thread - but that would be interesting to see what they are able to do.

Yes, please.

 

[JamD]

Can UAV/UCAV transponders be manipulated to portray a much larger fleet of J-10Cs heading towards the India border or operating near the India border?

Can the enemy's Air Defences be overwhelmed this way or the radars / AWACs can distinguish between fighter aircrafts and drones?

Transponders are what the aircraft says it is. SAM sites are not locking on to transponder signals. However, what you are suggesting is exactly what the MALD is designed to do:

EDIT: In short the MALD has RF emitters that mimic the return of bigger aircraft. Also it is jet powered and flies at altitude and speeds (flight profile) of said bigger jets. I don't expect these to be foolproof- the fake returns probably work in specific aspects up to limited ranges. Also countermeasures might be built in to SAM systems. Cat and mouse always.

 

[Bossman]

Not getting into the whole J-10 PAF has nothing to gain from the J-10C, because that is absurd.

However, just want to point out that the myth of J-10C being linked to the PL-15 is false. There was no condition set by China to acquire the PL-15.

I never said it was. I just wanted to pi$$ off the Indians

 

[siegecrossbow]

Can UAV/UCAV transponders be manipulated to portray a much larger fleet of J-10Cs heading towards the India border or operating near the India border?

Can the enemy's Air Defences be overwhelmed this way or the radars / AWACs can distinguish between fighter aircrafts and drones?

Modern radars are capable of determining the type of aircraft based on radar return signature. You'd think that J-16 and Su-30 are visually similar, right? They have vastly different radar signatures and Taiwanese ground based radars could tell the difference. This is known since they report aircraft type for PLAAF ADIZ incursions but often don't scramble fighter aircraft for visual verification.

 

[White Lion]

Modern radars are capable of determining the type of aircraft based on radar return signature. You'd think that J-16 and Su-30 are visually similar, right? They have vastly different radar signatures and Taiwanese ground based radars could tell the difference. This is known since they report aircraft type for PLAAF ADIZ incursions but often don't scramble fighter aircraft for visual verification.

The detection is different because of radar observant paint and that is what the Taiwanese ground radar controllers determined. Way back in Serbia a F117 was shot down by using obsolete radars that did not rely on increased PRF to determine the type of aircraft. The F117 would deflect the increased Pulses to show many targets but reducing the Pulses identified the aircraft and it was easily shot down.

A B2 was also detected over UK during rain as the moisture over the surface of the aircraft made it non stealthy.

Stealth Fighter Uncloaked : Gulf War: British radar apparently picked up the F-117 up to 40 miles from its targets. Should we worry?

The Persian Gulf War was a proving ground for many of the U.S. military's newest high-tech weapons.

www.latimes.com

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

Hailed as a rafale slayer very soon in PAF colours.

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

 

[abdulbarijan]

Just an update: The "rafale slayer" to date hasn't slayed any rafales. In addition it has yet to join the PAF officially. Let's keep some difference between us and our friends in the East in terms of hailing something as "XYZ slayer" before its even inducted.

Regards,
Abj

 

[untitled]

Just an update: The "rafale slayer" to date hasn't slayed any rafales.

How about rumour slayer or PDF fighter doctrine thread slayer?

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

The "rafale slayer" to date hasn't slayed any rafales

The Indians have not slayed any aircrafts, yet they boast.

Nevertheless the Indians have pretty much mastered the art of SLAYING their own aircrafts by incompetent flying and maintenance techniques.

 

[untitled]

The Indians have not slayed any aircrafts, yet they boast.

Dragon Slayers.... St George's own
Continuing the tradition of the excalibur rifle