Israel, atheist jews and bankers!

[PK_Patriot]

How can atheists gather under the flag of prophet Israel (Hazrat Yakob AS name is Israel)? Every atheist consider Prophets of Allah liars (Nao zu Billah). Following are the lists of few atheists who played not important but entire role in making of a country named Israel !

Theodor Herzl – Austro-Hungarian journalist who founded the Modern Political Zionism.

David Ben-Gurion – Polish-Israeli politician. He is a founder and the first Prime Minister of Israel.

Golda Meir – Israeli teacher, kibbutznik, fourth Prime Minister of Israel, Yom Kippur War

Yitzhak Rabin – Israeli politician, statesman and general. He was the fifth Prime Minister of Israel. He won the 1994 Nobel Peace Prize together with Shimon Peres and Yasser Arafat.

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[Free]

How can atheists gather under the flag of prophet Israel (Hazrat Yakob AS name is Israel)? Every atheist consider Prophets of Allah liars (Nao zu Billah). Following are the lists of few atheists who played not important but entire role in making of a country named Israel !

Theodor Herzl – Austro-Hungarian journalist who founded the Modern Political Zionism.

David Ben-Gurion – Polish-Israeli politician. He is a founder and the first Prime Minister of Israel.

Golda Meir – Israeli teacher, kibbutznik, fourth Prime Minister of Israel, Yom Kippur War

Yitzhak Rabin – Israeli politician, statesman and general. He was the fifth Prime Minister of Israel. He won the 1994 Nobel Peace Prize together with Shimon Peres and Yasser Arafat.

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Great post but you have forgotten to mention the House of Rothschilds and other bankers. No article about them what they follow ? There must be also alot of atheists jews like facebook owner, david milliband (uk politician) etc

 

[Sugarcane]

One can be either Atheist or Jew, not both at same time.

 

[PK_Patriot]

Great post but you have forgotten to mention the House of Rothschilds and other bankers. No article about them what they follow ? There must be also alot of atheists jews like facebook owner, david milliband (uk politician) etc

Yea there are alot of Atheist jews List of Jewish atheists and agnostics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia I wonder how they came under the flag of Messengers and still atheist

One can be either Atheist or Jew, not both at same time.

After your post I shared a link which contains a list of all well known atheist jews

 

[syedali73]

How can atheists gather under the flag of prophet Israel (Hazrat Yakob AS name is Israel)? Every atheist consider Prophets of Allah liars (Nao zu Billah). Following are the lists of few atheists who played not important but entire role in making of a country named Israel !

Theodor Herzl – Austro-Hungarian journalist who founded the Modern Political Zionism.

David Ben-Gurion – Polish-Israeli politician. He is a founder and the first Prime Minister of Israel.

Golda Meir – Israeli teacher, kibbutznik, fourth Prime Minister of Israel, Yom Kippur War

Yitzhak Rabin – Israeli politician, statesman and general. He was the fifth Prime Minister of Israel. He won the 1994 Nobel Peace Prize together with Shimon Peres and Yasser Arafat.

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What makes you think they were atheists and not hard-core zionists? Don't actions speak louder than words?

 

[jammersat]

atheist is synonymous with israel , russian jewry , and of course stephen hawkings

the jews will soon return to europe / USA , what will remain is a melting pot of druze , bedouin and of course arab jews

 

[PK_Patriot]

What makes you think they were atheists and not hard-core zionists? Don't actions speak louder than words?

Because above list of people declared openly that they don't believe in any god and worked for a country named Israel in the name of a messenger

atheist is synonymous with israel , russian jewry , and of course stephen hawkings

the jews will soon return to europe / USA , what will remain is a melting pot of druze , bedouin and of course arab jews

Well I fear european and american jews haven't left the best place on earth for Israel without giving a second thought ,,,,,, they are here for a purpose and mission above worldly affairs

 

[syedali73]

Because above list of people declared openly that they don't believe in any god and worked for a country named Israel in the name of a messenger

As I wrote, actions speak louder than words. They can say whatever they like to. They don't believe in God but believe in the messenger? Who sent the messenger?

My understanding is, by declaring themselves as atheists, that tried to present themselves as pure nationalists for it suited their political agenda better and made them more acceptable internationally. World of their time was not ready to accept religious fanatics even if they were Jews.

 

[PK_Patriot]

As I wrote, actions speak louder than words. They can say whatever they like to. They don't believe in God but believe in the messenger? Who sent the messenger?

They don't believe in messengers too ,,,,,,,,,, they consider them liar (Nao zu Billah)

As I wrote, actions speak louder than words. They can say whatever they like to. They don't believe in God but believe in the messenger? Who sent the messenger?

My understanding is, by declaring themselves as atheists, that tried to present themselves as pure nationalists for it suited their political agenda better and made them more acceptable internationally. World of their time was not ready to accept religious fanatics even if they were Jews.

check an interesting article Jewish Writers Admit: "50 Percent of Religious Jews are Atheists" - David Duke.com | David Duke.com

 

[syedali73]

They don't believe in messengers too ,,,,,,,,,, they consider them liar (Nao zu Billah)


check an interesting article Jewish Writers Admit: "50 Percent of Religious Jews are Atheists" - David Duke.com | David Duke.com

They are liar; is it too difficult to understand? Ignore their words, concentrate on their actions.

 

[jammersat]

Because above list of people declared openly that they don't believe in any god and worked for a country named Israel in the name of a messenger

The figures in the jewish bible were all anti-semites of their time , why do you think the Quranic group of men known as اصحاب کهف who happen to reside in a jewish community in turkey ran for their life and hid in a cave till they died?

Well I fear european and american jews haven't left the best place on earth for Israel without giving a second thought ,,,,,, they are here for a purpose and mission above worldly affairs

They come and go like one member here pointed out , but you can't just keep coming and going , eventually you have to settle down , deep inside americans and some europeans are ashamed by what israel is doing in middle east , so they have pogroms to settle them down in USA and europe , again what will remain is a melting pot of arab jews , druze and bedouin and other factions of arab

seriously dude , read some history , jews have been going hand to hand between europe and middle east for centuries now , it has happened before , Cyrus happens to be in the jewish bible conquered babylon and freed its people from jews , jews were exiled to israel which was in the Greek world , essentially europe back then ;

Rome quite to the contrary tried to push them back to the east by the excuse of christianity and jesus christ

Arab/moore invaders introduced jews to spain/iberia , and so on and so forth ,

no one can predict the future but somethings are easy to guess

 

[Daghalodi]

The figures in the jewish bible were all anti-semites of their time , why do you think the Quranic group of men known as اصحاب کهف who happen to reside in a jewish community in turkey ran for their life and hid in a cave till they died?


They come and go like one member here pointed out , but you can't just keep coming and going , eventually you have to settle down , deep inside americans and some europeans are ashamed by what israel is doing in middle east , so they have pogroms to settle them down in USA and europe , again what will remain is a melting pot of arab jews , druze and bedouin and other factions of arab

seriously dude , read some history , jews have been going hand to hand between europe and middle east for centuries now , it has happened before , Cyrus happens to be in the jewish bible conquered babylon and freed its people from jews , jews were exiled to israel which was in the Greek world , essentially europe back then ;

Rome quite to the contrary tried to push them back to the east by the excuse of christianity and jesus christ

Arab/moore invaders introduced jews to spain/iberia , and so on and so forth ,

no one can predict the future but somethings are easy to guess

That's interesting ...so you are saying Judaism and Zionism are one in the same thing?

 

[jammersat]

That's interesting ...so you are saying Judaism and Zionism are one in the same thing?

of course , the story of theodore herzel and zionism is made up , he did propose a homeland for the jews but it was the second world war that catalyzed this process and sent all the jews to the israeli desert ; just like the allies didn't want to punish germany and bankrupt her economy (unlike the first world war) they committed themselves to the establishment of a jewish state out of europe , and they still do to this date , only so that jews live in the middle east and not in their countries ; at the end of the day it's all about where jews live

the only real non-zionist jews i can ever imagine are probably some rich , fat and well fed jews in north america who have no interest in israel whatsoever , for them the promised land is america

 

[DavidSling]

How can atheists gather under the flag of prophet Israel (Hazrat Yakob AS name is Israel)? Every atheist consider Prophets of Allah liars (Nao zu Billah). Following are the lists of few atheists who played not important but entire role in making of a country named Israel !

Theodor Herzl – Austro-Hungarian journalist who founded the Modern Political Zionism.

David Ben-Gurion – Polish-Israeli politician. He is a founder and the first Prime Minister of Israel.

Golda Meir – Israeli teacher, kibbutznik, fourth Prime Minister of Israel, Yom Kippur War

Yitzhak Rabin – Israeli politician, statesman and general. He was the fifth Prime Minister of Israel. He won the 1994 Nobel Peace Prize together with Shimon Peres and Yasser Arafat.

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Being jewish is not only by religion anymore.
Jewish atheism refers to the atheism of people who are ethnically and (at least to some extent) culturally Jewish. Because Jewish identity encompasses ethnic as well as religious components, the term "Jewish atheism" does not inherently entail a contradiction.

Based on Jewish law's emphasis on matrilineal descent, even religiously conservative Orthodox Jewish authorities would accept an atheist born to a Jewish mother as fully Jewish.[1] A 2011 study found that half of allAmerican Jews have doubts about the existence of God, compared to 10–15% of other American religious groups.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_atheism

 

[jammersat]

Contemporary Judaism[edit]
All Jewish religious movements agree that a person may be a Jew either by birth or through conversion. According to halakha, a Jew by birth must be born to a Jewish mother. Halakha states that the acceptance of the principles and practices of Judaism does not make a person a Jew. But, those born Jewish do not lose that status because they cease to be observant Jews, even if they adopt the practices of another religion.[5]

Reform and Reconstructionist Judaism often accept a child as Jewish even if only the father is Jewish and if the child chooses to identify as Jewish.[6] As the various denominations of Judaism differ on their conversion processes, conversions performed by more liberal denominations are not accepted by those that are less so.[6]



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_is_a_Jew?