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[Bahram Esfandiari]

That is IRGC. Not IRIAF.

Wow, did you read the title of the video?

 

[Hack-Hook]

But SU-35S would be a good addition to the iriaf.

only 24 of them will change nothing only new headache for maintenance crew

Stop whining! Iran's old modern fighter jets still have 20 years of life.

maybe in peace time

 

[sha ah]

There is no way that Iran would only purchase 24X SU-35s and nothing else. 24X SU-35s would perhaps be an initial older, as part of a larger purchase.

only 24 of them will change nothing only new headache for maintenance crew

maybe in peace time

 

[TheImmortal]

There is no way that Iran would only purchase 24X SU-35s and nothing else. 24X SU-35s would perhaps be an initial older, as part of a larger purchase.

Actually 24-36 is a normal deal in arms industry considering the costs of maintenance/supplies/spares added on top of a 4++ fighter like SU-35S. Plus Russian reluctance to do large orders with Iran.

Yes, it’s not a “over haul” the IRIAF type deal. I don’t Russia can even withstand western pressure for such a deal. Right now the West has many pain points on Russia (Ukraine, NATO acceptance of ex soviet countries, Nord stream 2 pipeline).

Anyway not saying this news is true tho, probably isn’t. Been hearing Iran is going to get Russian planes for 20 years now.

At this point the joke is wether Iran gets the bomb or a Russian fighter jet. Both have been “imminent” since the late 1990’s.

 

[Deino]

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Great info about Qaher's future.

How could that be if it not even flew once?

 

[Sineva]

 

[Sineva]

The source you quoted is unreliable. Let's wait for official news.

"unreliable" is putting it mildly......
This clowns infamous.

 

[sha ah]

Yes I realize that a quantity of 24-36 is normal for something like the SU-35. Egypt has 17 in inventory and 35 on order and is refusing to step down despite US pressure. Indonesia on the other hand just cancelled its order for the SU-35 to avoid sanctions.

Yes the west is pressuring Russia but Russia under Putin is not stepping down either. Putin just removed something like 10,000 troops from the frontlines but realistically out of 100,000 troops, that's nothing.

The US and Russia are set to talk in January. If a deal is not reached, likely Russia will pounce on Ukraine.

As for Iran, we still have to wait and see whether the nuclear deal will go through. Regardless, in the next 2 decades Iran needs to purchase a large fleet of fighter jets to keep its airforce viable.

The UN sanctions against Iran are gone and during the Obama years the US had alot of leverage on Russia and China but after Trump all bets are off. The US has shown its true colors and its true intentions against Russia and China.

I'm guessing that sooner or later Iran will end up formally signing a large arms deal with Russia which will lead to the procurement of a wide range of weapons with technology transfers and license production deals.

Iran made the right move by not rushing to purchase weapons right after the UN sanctions were lifted. By being patient rather than showing anxiety, Iran can acquire desired weapons and technology on more favorable terms.

When bartering, patience is always an asset. Also specific weapons systems tend to become less expensive with time and in some cases, newer variants tend to be more cost effective and efficient.

We will have to wait and see but the way I look at it, Iran under the current leadership is slowly but surely modernizing the military in a very gradual and methodical manner.

Actually 24-36 is a normal deal in arms industry considering the costs of maintenance/supplies/spares added on top of a 4++ fighter like SU-35S. Plus Russian reluctance to do large orders with Iran.

Yes, it’s not a “over haul” the IRIAF type deal. I don’t Russia can even withstand western pressure for such a deal. Right now the West has many pain points on Russia (Ukraine, NATO acceptance of ex soviet countries, Nord stream 2 pipeline).

Anyway not saying this news is true tho, probably isn’t. Been hearing Iran is going to get Russian planes for 20 years now.

At this point the joke is wether Iran gets the bomb or a Russian fighter jet. Both have been “imminent” since the late 1990’s.

 

[yugocrosrb95]

How could that be if it not even flew once?

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We don't know if it flew or not, for we all know despite being cancelled project it may have flew and is only used as test platform for technologies, design and what else it has...

 

[Bahram Esfandiari]

We don't know if it flew or not, for we all know despite being cancelled project it may have flew and is only used as test platform for technologies, design and what else it has...

Had the Qaher 313 ever flown, they would have publicized it. For the very same reason they Publicized its Taxi trials.

 

[Bahram Esfandiari]

 

[Hack-Hook]

For the people who says 24 to 36 aircraft is normal for airplanes such as su-35how some countries which are Iran adversary have north of 100 of F15 .and How many su 30 India have and .....

 

[Mr Iran Eye]

only 24 of them will change nothing only new headache for maintenance crew

maybe in peace time

You just have to observe the modern weapons built for the Su-22 to understand that Iran has a lot of surprises for their opponents with the other fighter planes. Iran is always more advanced in their technology than their public announcements

Iran's adversaries don't underestimate Iran's planes like you do because carelessness for them would be fatal. In my opinion, Iran should soon reveal surprises to us on Kowsar improvement and other unexpected surprises. I have been analyzing the Iranian announcement process a lot for years and the perfect timing is coming for revelations about fighter jets. We will see the news if that proves me right

Iran really likes 4-year slices to get us out of our hat rabbits

 

[yugocrosrb95]

For the people who says 24 to 36 aircraft is normal for airplanes such as su-35how some countries which are Iran adversary have north of 100 of F15 .and How many su 30 India have and .....

India is 2x land mass as Iran and has 260 Su-30 thus Iran would need 130 to match density of Su-30 that India has.

Though India has much more to spend considering it has 20 times population of Iran and even at best times Iran's GDP per capita was only 4 or 5 times larger than India.

Most sensible option when it comes to importation of foreign aircraft is Mig-35 because of X amount of Su-35 Iran may afford it could get twice as many Mig-35.

Most economical option is for Iran to do it on their own and have an arduous march towards modern indigenous fighter jet.

 

[sha ah]

The SU-35 would be like the tip of the spear, cream of the crop, while 50-100X SU-30s would be the mainstay/workhorse of the airforce.

Perhaps Iran will receive technology transfers and build SU-30s under license while SU-35s will be purchased outright ?

Iran should look into also purchasing the Checkmate fighter jet, S-400 and Armata tank. S-400 however should only be purchased with the software codes provided.

A few dozen Mi-24s with technology transfers would also be excellent. Helicopter parts and tech transfers for the latest tank power pack, vital helicopter components would also be a good buy for Iran.

In the end only time will tell. Let's wait and see.

For the people who says 24 to 36 aircraft is normal for airplanes such as su-35how some countries which are Iran adversary have north of 100 of F15 .and How many su 30 India have and .....