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[Stryker1982]

Dont worry....if he shows footage, it will be repeated on TV until the election.....

But if you really think about it, Trump has weakened the US significatly..... it would be advantages for Iran to have Trump in office again.

what you want for your enemy is Retards for president for ever.

Naah, Iran was better off during the Obama years.

 

[AbubakerS]

What a load of propaganda. Trump was going to lift all sanctions on Iran if they did not retaliate? Who believes that?

US asked for negotiations on what targets to allow to be struck in revenge? This propaganda is for the villagers in Iran who don’t know better.

Let’s not forget another Quds force General died in that car along with 3 other operatives and Quds Force General of Yemen ops was also targeted.

But we are to believe, US was “so scared” of Iranian retaliation that they went for a mega decapitation strike and crossed all red lines including rules of war and engagement.

Salaams brothers
This is the first time I'm posting on here but have been reading posts on PD for many years.
Anyhow, believe it or not, Trump offering such concessions is not so far fetched. It's possible he may have been told by his Military chiefs (most of these are usually 'yes men' that only tell you what you want to hear) that Iran would be too terrified to respond militarily.
When US Military planners became a bit soberer and realised through their intelligence agencies that Iranian missiles were be brought out their bunkers, Iranian radar was trying to lock on to fighter jets etc, it would have forced Trump to re-evaluate the situation in case it turned out be an all-out war. Trump may have certainly offered sweetners to the Iranians through 'third-parties' to persuade the Iranians to step back. One of these would most certainly have been to 'drop all sanctions'. Of course he would not have followed through with this but it could have brought the Americans a few weeks for things to calm down.

Now I say this because I know when India tested their Atomic bomb in 1998, Pakistan then promised to do the same. The the President of the USA and military offered to drop sanctions and to release Pakistan's miliatry hardware (which Pakistan had paid for i.e F16s) amongst other things if Pakistan did not carry out with the tit-for-tat Atomic tests.

So it is well possible this happened.

 

[Raghfarm007]

Naah, Iran was better off during the Obama years.

How so? Do you think Iran was also better off under the shah??

 

[TheImmortal]

Yeah sure, all of the foreign officials who visited Iran in that time were carrying weather information.
2500 US troops were all in the shelters, the CIA bombardier was empty, basically as trump said everything is good!

Next time I will ask them to check their information with CIA trolls first!

You spew propaganda and have been exposed on this forum multiple times for citing propaganda.

How naive you must be to believe that the US was going to remove ALL sanctions if Iran didn’t retaliate. US sanctions on Iran have been around since 1979, you think the US cares about 1200 soldiers making 30K a year? Laughable. Iran sent 1200 soldiers to their death A DAY during the Iraq war.

But yes let’s believe the same group that said that they didn’t down the airliner right next to their own airport. I mean they are the beacon of truthfulness.

I am sure if the role was reversed and Iran had assassinated 2 4 star generals along with 3 high ranking commanders (and attempted the life on another 4 star commander) that you would be calling Iran “weak” and US “strong” for having attacked an Iranian military base in Syria resulting in zero deaths.

I mean the mental hoops you jump through to justify this propaganda is no better than Babak on Twitter. Both of you are imbeciles.

None of these foreign powers are scared of Iran nor care about Iran. You forget these same foreign powers killed millions of Iranians via famine during WW1 and WW2. There were less than 12 million Iranians by end of WW1.

The emissaries are nothing but devil whispers that come to trick Iran like they tricked Ghaddafi, Saddam, and Assad.

Only fools like you think US would remove the pressure on Iran over a handful of casualties. What a joke.

 

[Blue In Green]

You spew propaganda and have been exposed on this forum multiple times for citing propaganda.

How naive you must be to believe that the US was going to remove ALL sanctions if Iran didn’t retaliate. US sanctions on Iran have been around since 1979, you think the US cares about 1200 soldiers making 30K a year? Laughable. Iran sent 1200 soldiers to their death A DAY during the Iraq war.

But yes let’s believe the same group that said that they didn’t down the airliner right next to their own airport. I mean they are the beacon of truthfulness.

I am sure if the role was reversed and Iran had assassinated 2 4 star generals along with 3 high ranking commanders (and attempted the life on another 4 star commander) that you would be calling Iran “weak” and US “strong” for having attacked an Iranian military base in Syria resulting in zero deaths.

I mean the mental hoops you jump through to justify this propaganda is no better than Babak on Twitter. Both of you are imbeciles.

None of these foreign powers are scared of Iran nor care about Iran. You forget these same foreign powers killed millions of Iranians via famine during WW1 and WW2. There were less than 12 million Iranians by end of WW1.

The emissaries are nothing but devil whispers that come to trick Iran like they tricked Ghaddafi, Saddam, and Assad.

Only fools like you think US would remove the pressure on Iran over a handful of casualties. What a joke.

Lets hope Iran can manage for the time being.

 

[Messerschmitt]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1224511631419301889

https://twitter.com/x/status/1225811170625495041

https://twitter.com/x/status/1225814207834226688

https://twitter.com/x/status/1225846329538158594

 

[mohsen]

You spew propaganda and have been exposed on this forum multiple times for citing propaganda.

How naive you must be to believe that the US was going to remove ALL sanctions if Iran didn’t retaliate. US sanctions on Iran have been around since 1979, you think the US cares about 1200 soldiers making 30K a year? Laughable. Iran sent 1200 soldiers to their death A DAY during the Iraq war.

But yes let’s believe the same group that said that they didn’t down the airliner right next to their own airport. I mean they are the beacon of truthfulness.

I am sure if the role was reversed and Iran had assassinated 2 4 star generals along with 3 high ranking commanders (and attempted the life on another 4 star commander) that you would be calling Iran “weak” and US “strong” for having attacked an Iranian military base in Syria resulting in zero deaths.

I mean the mental hoops you jump through to justify this propaganda is no better than Babak on Twitter. Both of you are imbeciles.

None of these foreign powers are scared of Iran nor care about Iran. You forget these same foreign powers killed millions of Iranians via famine during WW1 and WW2. There were less than 12 million Iranians by end of WW1.

The emissaries are nothing but devil whispers that come to trick Iran like they tricked Ghaddafi, Saddam, and Assad.

Only fools like you think US would remove the pressure on Iran over a handful of casualties. What a joke.

I didn't say US was going to remove all sanctions, please don't make these laughable lies.

If I were in foreign ministry I would clean my sh!t with their letter and send it back.

Those fake foreign powers are the same ones whose ship was seized by Iran while they were escorting it, only a fool would compare Shah era military with Iran's today capabilities.

When their costs outrun their benefits they will give up the pressure. What US lost in Iran's attack was it's image as an untouchable superpower, If live of their soldiers didn't matter, they wouldn't try this hard to hide it, this will affect the future of both their politicians and their military.

 

[VEVAK]

I didn't say US was going to remove all sanctions, please don't make these laughable lies.

If I were in foreign ministry I would clean my sh!t with their letter and send it back.

Those fake foreign powers are the same ones whose ship was seized by Iran while they were escorting it, only a fool would compare Shah era military with Iran's today capabilities.

When their costs outrun their benefits they will give up the pressure. What US lost in Iran's attack was it's image as an untouchable superpower, If live of their soldiers didn't matter, they wouldn't try this hard to hide it, this will affect the future of both their politicians and their military.

All the love letters between Kim & Trump led to the removal of what Sanctions? I think we all know that answer to that!

Plus when our own Majles is fully capable of restricting Iranian tech maybe we should fixate on fixing their behaviors before worrying about what foreigners do!
https://www.tasnimnews.com/fa/news/...-برای-ممنوعیت-تولید-و-استفاده-از-سلاح-هسته-ای

 

[DoubleYouSee]

Salaams brothers
This is the first time I'm posting on here but have been reading posts on PD for many years.
Anyhow, believe it or not, Trump offering such concessions is not so far fetched. It's possible he may have been told by his Military chiefs (most of these are usually 'yes men' that only tell you what you want to hear) that Iran would be too terrified to respond militarily.
When US Military planners became a bit soberer and realised through their intelligence agencies that Iranian missiles were be brought out their bunkers, Iranian radar was trying to lock on to fighter jets etc, it would have forced Trump to re-evaluate the situation in case it turned out be an all-out war. Trump may have certainly offered sweetners to the Iranians through 'third-parties' to persuade the Iranians to step back. One of these would most certainly have been to 'drop all sanctions'. Of course he would not have followed through with this but it could have brought the Americans a few weeks for things to calm down.

Now I say this because I know when India tested their Atomic bomb in 1998, Pakistan then promised to do the same. The the President of the USA and military offered to drop sanctions and to release Pakistan's miliatry hardware (which Pakistan had paid for i.e F16s) amongst other things if Pakistan did not carry out with the tit-for-tat Atomic tests.

So it is well possible this happened.

The americans thought they will win any war with any enemy,so your hypothesis is not correct......in my oponion the only reason which persuaded them not to extend the conflict with Iran was lack of preparation....they didn't prepare for war.....but now conditions differ......

 

[TheImmortal]

I didn't say US was going to remove all sanctions, please don't make these laughable lies.

If I were in foreign ministry I would clean my sh!t with their letter and send it back.

Those fake foreign powers are the same ones whose ship was seized by Iran while they were escorting it, only a fool would compare Shah era military with Iran's today capabilities.

When their costs outrun their benefits they will give up the pressure. What US lost in Iran's attack was it's image as an untouchable superpower, If live of their soldiers didn't matter, they wouldn't try this hard to hide it, this will affect the future of both their politicians and their military.

Listen US has been #1 superpower since end of WW2. Since then it has lost soldiers in Vietnam, Korea, and Persian Gulf War 1. So this thinking that US is adverse to casualties or has this image to protect of not being able to be attacked is not rooted in reality. Saddam landed some solid punches in Persian Gulf War I.

So just because there has NOT been a major war, don’t call the US a paper tiger just yet.

US will not remove sanctions on Iran, they have no reason to. The world economy is moving along and US economy is still humming despite being late stage of a long bull market.

What has Iran done? A few tanker attacks, a ship seizure, Armaco warning attack, and Al-Assad. Nothing but minor temper tantrums that world just shrugged and ignored.

Iran is suffering and though all the boastful propaganda of “if we cannot export oil no one will be allowed to” we can see that Iranian leadership values it’s survival over anything else. Entering into direct conflict with US would be disaster no matter what Iran does to the world economy.

So far the “costs” of keeping Iran sanctions has been negligent to the US where as since 2003 Iran has lost an estimated 600 billion dollars (lost oil revenue + investment/trade + opportunity costs).

So take your head out of the sand, Iran is struggling in this fight and the costs the US is incurring is negligent.

They took out the most powerful Iranian general (along with other HVTs) and Iran gave some soldiers some headaches and concussion. I mean for the US that is a laughable trade off.

 

[Blue In Green]

Listen US has been #1 superpower since end of WW2. Since then it has lost soldiers in Vietnam, Korea, and Persian Gulf War 1. So this thinking that US is adverse to casualties or has this image to protect of not being able to be attacked is not rooted in reality. Saddam landed some solid punches in Persian Gulf War I.

So just because there has NOT been a major war, don’t call the US a paper tiger just yet.

US will not remove sanctions on Iran, they have no reason to. The world economy is moving along and US economy is still humming despite being late stage of a long bull market.

What has Iran done? A few tanker attacks, a ship seizure, Armaco warning attack, and Al-Assad. Nothing but minor temper tantrums that world just shrugged and ignored.

Iran is suffering and though all the boastful propaganda of “if we cannot export oil no one will be allowed to” we can see that Iranian leadership values it’s survival over anything else. Entering into direct conflict with US would be disaster no matter what Iran does to the world economy.

So far the “costs” of keeping Iran sanctions has been negligent to the US where as since 2003 Iran has lost an estimated 600 billion dollars (lost oil revenue + investment/trade + opportunity costs).

So take your head out of the sand, Iran is struggling in this fight and the costs the US is incurring is negligent.

They took out the most powerful Iranian general (along with other HVTs) and Iran gave some soldiers some headaches and concussion. I mean for the US that is a laughable trade off.

Can't really argue with you, that is the reality of the situation for the most part.

Question: Given this reality what do you think Iran should do for the time being though? You're absolutely right when it comes to the rather negligible Iranian 'counter-attacks' that have gone on but in light of that what else should Iran be doing.

 

[Draco.IMF]

What has Iran done? A few tanker attacks, a ship seizure, Armaco warning attack, and Al-Assad. Nothing but minor temper tantrums that world just shrugged and ignored.

They took out the most powerful Iranian general (along with other HVTs) and Iran gave some soldiers some headaches and concussion. I mean for the US that is a laughable trade off.

More than 80 dead at al-assad base (they are still hiding the real damage but it will come out, sooner or later)

The erbil base was struck by, at least, 5 missiles, and it took out the command centre with many casualties

Over a dozen joint CIA/Mossad/Mi6 targets were hit (+ CIA jet downed)

and thats just the beginning...

the cost of taking out the "most powerful Iranian general" is the expulsion of all foreign occupiers out of Iraq

 

[arashkamangir]

More than 80 dead at al-assad base (they are still hiding the real damage but it will come out, sooner or later)

The erbil base was struck by, at least, 5 missiles, and it took out the command centre with many casualties

Over a dozen joint CIA/Mossad/Mi6 targets were hit (+ CIA jet downed)

and thats just the beginning...

the cost of taking out the "most powerful Iranian general" is the expulsion of all foreign occupiers out of Iraq

I am sorry but as a scientist, I look for empirical facts and evidence. I also look at historical record of IRGC's competence in calculation and rational decision making in foreign policy and war tactics. We have empirical evidence of precision strike and there is no need to make fiction. Solders have suffered TBI because of massive warheads of Qiam that was fired precisely to exactly achieve that: Shock and Awe


This was the only option: material and psychological damage at a cost of minimal retaliation. Iran's foreign policy is not bounded by one person, it is a long term strategy of removal of US from middle east. This is not an immediate goal but long term and it can only be achieved through attrition, increase in operation costs and politics and that is precisely how Iran has been operating for the past 40 years. It will not change majorly as it has been working.

Only irrational actors breakaway from principals of Realpolitik and proportionality.

 

[Draco.IMF]

I am sorry but as a scientist, I look for empirical facts and evidence. I also look at historical record of IRGC's competence in calculation and rational decision making in foreign policy and war tactics. We have empirical evidence of precision strike and there is no need to make fiction. Solders have suffered TBI because of massive warheads of Qiam that was fired precisely to exactly achieve that: Shock and Awe


This was the only option: material and psychological damage at a cost of minimal retaliation. Iran's foreign policy is not bounded by one person, it is a long term strategy of removal of US from middle east. This is not an immediate goal but long term and it can only be achieved through attrition, increase in operation costs and politics and that is precisely how Iran has been operating for the past 40 years. It will not change majorly as it has been working.

Only irrational actors breakaway from principals of Realpolitik and proportionality.

Iran was fully ready to go "all out" if US had retaliated:

https://ejmagnier.com/2020/02/01/ho...s-bases-and-how-trump-avoided-an-all-out-war/

 

[ashool]

Listen US has been #1 superpower since end of WW2. Since then it has lost soldiers in Vietnam, Korea, and Persian Gulf War 1. So this thinking that US is adverse to casualties or has this image to protect of not being able to be attacked is not rooted in reality. Saddam landed some solid punches in Persian Gulf War I.

So just because there has NOT been a major war, don’t call the US a paper tiger just yet.

US will not remove sanctions on Iran, they have no reason to. The world economy is moving along and US economy is still humming despite being late stage of a long bull market.

What has Iran done? A few tanker attacks, a ship seizure, Armaco warning attack, and Al-Assad. Nothing but minor temper tantrums that world just shrugged and ignored.

Iran is suffering and though all the boastful propaganda of “if we cannot export oil no one will be allowed to” we can see that Iranian leadership values it’s survival over anything else. Entering into direct conflict with US would be disaster no matter what Iran does to the world economy.

So far the “costs” of keeping Iran sanctions has been negligent to the US where as since 2003 Iran has lost an estimated 600 billion dollars (lost oil revenue + investment/trade + opportunity costs).

So take your head out of the sand, Iran is struggling in this fight and the costs the US is incurring is negligent.

They took out the most powerful Iranian general (along with other HVTs) and Iran gave some soldiers some headaches and concussion. I mean for the US that is a laughable trade off.

u are the one who said us dont have no lost live in sepah missile attack i want to say sardar hajizade have suprise for you soon some us terrorist soldiers have soft death he say news about it soonb