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Erdogan's Twisted Logic: S-400 Must Not Shoot Down Turkish Jets Over Syria Read more: http://sputni

the radar track the planes from the time they began their flight and the bras at the ground knew which airbase is used by which country.
by the way it not important , you simply won't shoot down an airplane when you are no at the war with that country for several second of violation of air space you escort it out, as a matter of fact it was not even several second of violation by them if your map is true it shows that the second that airplane entered your airspace you shoot it down , the plane was no even 20m in your space before you fired the missile.
and more importantly if you really mistake the identity of the airplane ethics dictate that you apologize for your mistake, isn't it so ?
Anyone dare enter my house without permission and that too with gun unless its a law enforcement with warrant and i promise i will shoot that FuKer dead before he gets a chance and i will not apologize.
 
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Anyone dare enter my house without permission and that too with gun unless its a law enforcement with warrant and i promise i will shoot that FuKer dead before he gets a chance and i will not apologize.
well , we are not talking about a hot headed juvenile , look at around the world and see what mature people do when some country we are not at war with violate their airspace.
 
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Very wrong.


What you really mean here ? why you people have to drag religion in every thing. I know you don't care about how stupid you sounded but atleast think twice about the flag you are representing in front of international posters.

Turkey's PM has a point here. Unless Turkish planes fires at Russian jets, Russia has no right to shoot down any Turkish fighter jet on Syrian airspace. Syrian airspace doesn't belong to Russia. Since everyone are having a field day on Syrian skies these days, Turkey can do what ever she likes to protect her interest at that part of the region just like others. Yes if Turkey indulges with Russian fighter jets intentionally than its a totally different ball game.
I know you are trying to get some attention and but first get some education and learn some manners, It is a forum where everybody can give his opinion and you must respect that and do not get personal. Why my opinion is hurting your rear end so badly. Now STFU and mind your own business. Unless you learn some manner and knowledge do not quote me.
 
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well , we are not talking about a hot headed juvenile , look at around the world and see what mature people do when some country we are not at war with violate their airspace.
Well i wonder if the same sanity will prevail Iran if God Forbid Israel violates Iranian airspace. I wonder if Iranian jets will pull up to Israelis and escort them out politely. Simple fact is Russia and Turkey are not besties but have been adversaries and right now Turks know what Russia is upto regarding Kurds. I think your ex president Ahmadinejad was very sane person and not a hot headed juvenile. Save the lectures for someone else.
 
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Well, if a Turkish jet violates Syrian airspace, Russia or Syria will shoot it down. I mean, it's just their right to defend their country. As Erdogan said with the Turkish jet shot down in Syria, the smallest incursion should not warrant downing the jet.
...well, Russia were officially asked in to the Syria, it has it's air/mar base (deemed as it's airspace) by the Legitimate authorities, whereas others 'flying' in there for ... what reason? , so yes, if Turkey to violate airspace of sovereign Nation of Syria why mr. the 'big balls' should expect enything else than
 
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:D:D:D the pic is made me dead :D:D:D
.. yep, for right now Russian-turkey = score 12-0 .. so let's see what's happens
well its kind of 12-1 with the last victory belonging to Turks tbh because USSR stands no more so lets see how things go this round.
 
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There is no Twisted Logic here. You are quoting "Sputnik", might as well start quoting Putin directly.

The Russians will try to take down a jet or two, just for revenge. The Turks have realized that and they are warning Russia that it won't be allowed. Turkish jets patrol parts of Syria where allied forces operate, and that's NOT Russian airspace violation. So the Russians have no right to shoot down anyone.

This is the right approach, to let the other party know that retaliating in a different country's airspace would mean a response back, such as taking out the S-400 batteries at the minimum.

This is similar to when Pakistan took out two intruding Mig's a long time ago. But to settle the score even, the Indians took out a four propeller naval plane with PN's officers on-board. A plane that couldn't even defend itself or get into a combat situation as its a bigger plane similar to passenger planes.

So here, Erdogan is trying to let the Russians know that he knows the game plan and there better not be a retaliation, as it'll escalate these things. Last time the Russians did this, they became Russia from the USSR. And this time, they might turn into Republic of Moscow!!

What if Syrian army shoots down the Turkish Jets? Can the syrians claim that this is a violation of their territory?
 
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What if Syrian army shoots down the Turkish Jets? Can the syrians claim that this is a violation of their territory?
They did shoot down Turkish jet so Syrians started it now some country from far away using the territory and crying foul not fair on Turks.
 
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Yes their country,so Syria should try to take it down,not Russia,or is Syria territory of Russia?

It perfectly legal for the recognized syrian regime to allow russia to defend their airspace.
 
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They did shoot down Turkish jet so Syrians started it now some country from far away using the territory and crying foul not fair on Turks.

Why isn't it fair? Syrian army is Syria's legitimate army, isn't it? Turkey supports rebels, Syria fights rebels and shoots down a Turkish jet over its territory. Russians were called in by the same Syrian army.

The issue is who is more legitimate, the rebels supported by Turkey or the Syrian army that governed the state for decades?

Assad is a tyrant, but are rebels good.
 
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Yes their country,so Syria should try to take it down,not Russia,or is Syria territory of Russia?


And what is legal about Russia bombing the Turkmens who have nothing to do with ISIS?
Why not go after ISIS instead of aiding Assad?

...said many time, Syria is - intenationaly recognized county (or isn't it) with one legitimate force who officially asked Russia in to assist fighting illegal internation "comunity" torrorising the country. Therefore, Russin is only legitimate force in the region due to int law...
..Saying that i.e only Syria should protect it's aircpace (not Russia) from invasions ... well ... say to pooosey erdogan who, just after ambushing returning to base su-24 the first thing did is ran to NATO to suckk cucks in there for they helping him/cover ..
.. then all the rubbish about turkmen - .. yeah -yeah, "bad Assad just came to kill nice civilian turkmen just for fun" (must be), - reality is that there are just terrorist from all over the World (and particularly 1-2000 terrorist from Russian/Caucases) torrorising the nation/country of Syria (could have seen the "civilian turkmen" who were killing and torturing the body of Russian pilot - hi is/was member of 'Grey Wolfs' the internal turkey terrorist groups and son of Head of some small city in turkey) .. so please tell more about "civilian farmers turkmen who just for nothing slottered by bad Russians and Assad"... than the main reason to opperate in the north on Syria - to lock the border with turky, the country with spreads terror to Syrian territory / supply, funding, healing bastards, trades ISIS oil, stollen arts and so on ...
 
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Correction, only one Indian airplane was shot down, while it was providing cover to the Mig 27, which had crashed due to engine stall, because of ingestion of smoke from rocket fire.
RIIIGHT!!! There are people on this forum who know MUCH more :enjoy:. The beauty of AD posts on top of Himalayas mountains is that you are already around of over 10K feet. So your extended shoulder mounted SAMs, can easily reach out to 16-18K feet.I can't believe the PA took out two upgraded Mig's with shoulder mounted SAMs.

Not ONE Chaff was released to confuse the little tiny missiles :rofl: :yahoo:

I still remember the pilot Nachiketa on Pakistan's National TV...giving interview...narrating everything...how he was shot down by Pak Army. Indians weren't even ready to take him back..Pakistan had to hand to him over to Red Cross who took him to India...later in India..he changed his narrative..lol calling it a technical fault !!!
What a day it was, One Mig 21 and another Mig 27...both fell prey to our Anza SAM...see our stuff (which the Indians call chinese painted missiles) has been tested real time sometimes the test subjects are Indians (as in this case) ..other times they are different..like the Serbians..who got their tanks decimated by Pak supplied Baktar Shikan ATGM's.
Anyways enjoy the pics guys..Cheers !!!
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Grandsons of Seljuks and grandsons of Roman Byzantine empire (Russians) do not like each other too much, and Russians want to take revenge of defeat of Byzantine empire by Seljuk empire.

Byzantine empire symbol:

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Russian army symbol:

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Dimitri Obolensky. The Relations between Byzantium and Russia (11th-15th Century) / Сервер восточноевропейской археологии

Saving the Third Rome. “Fall of the Empire”, Byzantium and Putin's Russia - IWM

Turks say we ruled ME via Ottoman empire and Russians say we ruled ME for centuries before you ever put feet in ME.

Mark my words.

.. well u must be kidding , Russian fcucked up turkey 12-0 during history..

...said many time, Syria is - intenationaly recognized county (or isn't it) with one legitimate force who officially asked Russia in to assist fighting illegal internation "comunity" torrorising the country. Therefore, Russin is only legitimate force in the region due to int law...
..Saying that i.e only Syria should protect it's aircpace (not Russia) from invasions ... well ... say to pooosey erdogan who, just after ambushing returning to base su-24 the first thing did is ran to NATO to suckk cucks in there for they helping him/cover ..
.. then all the rubbish about turkmen - .. yeah -yeah, "bad Assad just came to kill nice civilian turkmen just for fun" (must be), - reality is that there are just terrorist from all over the World (and particularly 1-2000 terrorist from Russian/Caucases) torrorising the nation/country of Syria (could have seen the "civilian turkmen" who were killing and torturing the body of Russian pilot - hi is/was member of 'Grey Wolfs' the internal turkey terrorist groups and son of Head of some small city in turkey) .. so please tell more about "civilian farmers turkmen who just for nothing slottered by bad Russians and Assad"... than the main reason to opperate in the north on Syria - to lock the border with turkey, the country which spreads terror to Syrian territory / supply, funding, healing bastards, trades ISIS oil, stollen arts and so on ...
 
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