Capabilities of PAF Dassault MIRAGE-III/V.

[Bossman]

Babaji cannot have off springs, although its still sturdy and healthy enough to finish its own fights.

It did, even grandkids Mirage 2K and Rafale

 

[air marshal]

https://falcons.pk/photo/Dassault-Mirage-VPA3/2685

 

[Scorpiooo]

PAF Mirage-5PA2.

 

[Incog_nito]

PAF Mirage-5PA2.
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Why not PAC work with Dassault and covert them into strike UCAVs? This will open doors for Dassault to convert other aircraft into such machines & keep the pilots to just new aircraft.

Possible Aircraft can be:

• Mirage III
• Mirage V
• Mirage F1s
• Jaguars
• Tornadoes
• F-5s
• F-4

And maybe some new aircrafts like:

• Mirage-2000s
• F-15s A/B/C/D
• F-16s A/B
• F-18s A/B/C/D

 

[The Accountant]

Why not PAC work with Dassault and covert them into strike UCAVs? This will open doors for Dassault to convert other aircraft into such machines & keep the pilots to just new aircraft.

Possible Aircraft can be:

• Mirage III
• Mirage V
• Mirage F1s
• Jaguars
• Tornadoes
• F-5s
• F-4

And maybe some new aircrafts like:

• Mirage-2000s
• F-15s A/B/C/D
• F-16s A/B
• F-18s A/B/C/D

Running cost of these fighters is too high to convert them into UCAV. Furthermore conversion itself will cost alot as these aircrafts are all hydraulic with turbo jet engines

 

[denel]

Why not PAC work with Dassault and covert them into strike UCAVs? This will open doors for Dassault to convert other aircraft into such machines & keep the pilots to just new aircraft.

Possible Aircraft can be:

• Mirage III
• Mirage V
• Mirage F1s
• Jaguars
• Tornadoes
• F-5s
• F-4

And maybe some new aircrafts like:

• Mirage-2000s
• F-15s A/B/C/D
• F-16s A/B
• F-18s A/B/C/D

You can get far better results with new platforms designed from scratch with UAV in mind vs using old platforms.

 

[Readerdefence]

You can get far better results with new platforms designed from scratch with UAV in mind vs using old platforms.

Hi denel is it possible to fit jf17 Russian engines in these Mirages if need arise in future
If yes will that fitting give these fighters any extra punch or more hard points etc
If possible to answer
Thank you

 

[The Accountant]

Hi denel is it possible to fit jf17 Russian engines in these Mirages if need arise in future
If yes will that fitting give these fighters any extra punch or more hard points etc
If possible to answer
Thank you

Changing fighter aircraft is a complicated process. Not worth with the 50 years old airframes. Why u want to use mirrages when thunders r available ?

 

[ziaulislam]

Changing fighter aircraft is a complicated process. Not worth with the 50 years old airframes. Why u want to use mirrages when thunders r available ?

some people think mirages are more suitable for strike

i disagree..today its an era of small diameter bombs and hexagonal launchers per hard point.
a jf 17 with three fuel fuel pods and two hardpoints for 1000kg each capacity/2000kg is a better option then pushing mirages beyond their useful life

given jf17s are multirole and can quickly adapt to different need

 

[denel]

Hi denel is it possible to fit jf17 Russian engines in these Mirages if need arise in future
If yes will that fitting give these fighters any extra punch or more hard points etc
If possible to answer
Thank you

Yes you can but there is airframe refitment needed plus center of gravity changes significantly. If you want best bang for money - use Atar-9K.

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

some people think mirages are more suitable for strike

i disagree..today its an era of small diameter bombs and hexagonal launchers per hard point.
a jf 17 with three fuel fuel pods and two hardpoints for 1000kg each capacity/2000kg is a better option then pushing mirages beyond their useful life

given jf17s are multirole and can quickly adapt to different need

The Mirages are key for the H-2/H-4 and Ra'ad ALCM. However, the need for Mirage has more to do with the design of those munitions than anything inherently good about the Mirage III/5.

I think the Raptor III (the evolution of the H-2/H-4, which are Raptor-I/II) and Ra'ad II should be able to fit under the wings of the JF-17. In my view, the Mirages will go once we qualify the JF-17 for full SOW deployment.

In fact, we'll need to move towards compact SOW design anyways. There's no other way to feasibly configure a FGFA for long-range strike (especially if we want to use internal bays).

Denel Raptor III

Ra'ad II

 

[JamD]

However, the need for Mirage has more to do with the design of those munitions than anything inherently good about the Mirage III/5.

...and the fact that AWC knows the Mirage inside-out and can integrate munitions to their heart's desire (without having to deal some sneaky flight control system).

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

...and the fact that AWC knows the Mirage inside-out and can integrate munitions to their heart's desire (without having to deal some sneaky flight control system).

The PAF was literally brought down by the thing we mocked India for developing for Tejas.

 

[Chak Bamu]

The PAF was literally brought down by the thing we mocked India for developing for Tejas.

Kinda cryptic. I can guess what you are hinting at, but can not make the connection with PAF being brought down. Care to elaborate a bit more?

 

[JamD]

Kinda cryptic. I can guess what you are hinting at, but can not make the connection with PAF being brought down. Care to elaborate a bit more?

Development (and complete ownership) of the flight control system.