@ArabianEmpires&Caliphates
I like Turks and even some Iranian guys here. And you know me well and my views, and how critical I am of Arabs themselves. Yet that is not enough for some people and they will brandish you as ISIS supporter or Arab nationalist. The Middle East section is not a good section anymore. Because there are simply anti-Arab people who don't care what your views are, if they see an Arab poster they want to abuse him. Unless he is a pro-Iran one.
And I'm disappointed in these Iraqi guys in the forum. They call me an ISIS supporter and they do not cover the Iraqi demonstrations where 150 plus got killed within a few days. They posted nothing about it here. And blamed Saudi Arabia for the demonstrations and said they won't go against Iran.
I know those mods are good people but people here are not polite and not raised well. And they all push propaganda. It's just one place on the internet, and I respectfully think you should move on. I'm not posting again after I got banned for no reason and afterwards some Iraqi members trash me/insult me as ISIS supporter and what not just because I questioned reasons for existence of some Iraqi militias. And you have lots of people thank their posts.
So I have made my decision and I'm not posting here anymore. I like Turks and Turkish members, and even Iranian ones too. It's just there is too much propaganda here and Iranians allowed to behave like victims while abuse Sunnis.
Some of it is really due to the regimes too. They go out and condemn Turkish op which is beneficial for Syrian opposition. Makes no sense. We are just not well liked right now and bigotry is tolerated here against one group so I'm not gonna waste energy trying to have fruitful discussions. You are welcome to do what you want though.
This is my last post so if I don't respond I'm not ignoring you. I just have moved on.
The reality is that many of the users from those 2 countries are simply ignorant trolls who have severe inferiority complexes towards Arabs. Very easy to notice. Despite our current political problems, they are well aware of the fact that we outnumber them all put together (clearly) and this difference will only keep increasing, that our geography and the lands we inhabit are literally 10 times larger, much more strategically located connecting 3 main continents (Asia, Africa and Europe) throughout the millennia, that we are the cradle of civilization home to the oldest, most influential and impressive ancient civilizations and heritage sites, that our language is the most widespread and influential (influencing every regional language heavily, including even Hebrew), that we ruled and dominated the region for 1000's of years, that it were the Arabs that spread Islam to all corners of the world, that we founded the largest and most influential empires in the region by far, that it was us that ended the Farsi entity once and for all in its pre-Islamic form, that we dominate the geography, that we have the most money, the largest and most influential diaspora, that all the holy sites are located in our lands and you name it, Islamic Golden Age and much, much more. In many ways it is like an ant comparing himself to a hurt (for the time being) elephant.
This explains why Arabs don't have such complexes and why we never engage in such type of nonsense discussions unless someone mentions us or trolls us.
I too have been and am openly critical about the Arab regimes in power (which often brings me at odds on Arab forums although I know the limits for the moderators - newer generation is much more open for criticism and do not look at it as a weakness) and our political systems and internal political, religious and social disagreements. I am not even an Arab nationalist either in the sense of the word but rather an Arab patriot that is otherwise aligned with traditional Arab values and an important place for Islam in the society as a guiding light.
Don't tell me about some ridiculous bans while obvious trolls are escaping free. This is the reality of such forums.
Which Iraqi user? From what I am aware there is only
@TheCamelGuy and
@Malik Alashter and none of them are pro-Iran regime (in fact very few Iraqis are that, don't let yourself be fooled by some loud paid trolls in the diaspora) and by that lot you are automatically labelled as "ISIS" when you are an Sunni Arab voicing support for Sunni Arabs or criticizing some of the incompetent and corrupt Shia militias that are ruling Iraq in a pathetically bad and corrupt manner and now committing massacres against their own Shia Arab population. I would not take it seriously and just report it. I am used to hearing that all the time and the "Wahhabi nonsense".
Have respect for some Turkish users and a few Iranian users but that is about it. Individual foreigners are of no importance anyway. Much rather focus on Arab-Pakistani cooperation than discussing with Arab-obsessed people with inferiority complexes and extreme ignorance.
You know my age old support for the Syrian opposition and my dislike for any foreigners violating and working against Arab interests (Kurdish terrorists included) and yet we had foreign trolls (Turks) trying to speak in my name, that of 35 million Saudi Arabians and 500 million Arabs and making unfunded and pathetic claims of KSA supporting YPG when KSA has only been supporting local Arab clans, tribes and people in Northeastern Syria that have close ties to KSA, many having migrated from modern-day KSA not many generations ago too.
As I wrote, I will reconsider the options and might join the other forum, but I would prefer us to stay and counter the propaganda and nonsense while trying to attract Arab users from Arab forums, Reddit (mainly the diaspora there) and Twitter. We could attract 1000's of Palestinians alone in theory. This way we could get our own Arab moderators and we would have a strong and vibrant section and community (as in the old days) ready to counter nonsense and propaganda and give a diverse view point of what Arabs think and believe in.
I am also tired of a few Arab regime decisions = 500+ million Arabs think the same or that this particular decision was our own decision. You name it.
