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12. President of TÜRKİYE: RECEP TAYYİP ERDOĞAN

After Atatürk!

No, statement is right... Erdoğan is the 1st elected 'President' by public in the entire Turkish History including Ottomans, Seljuks etc...
 
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In my opinion, Turkey could be proud with him as president. He is striving towards complete independency of Turkey.

I think you meant the complete islamization of Turkey...
 
Shhh the foreigners always know best.
And he's obviously not dutch, cant immagine a dutch ever saying something like that.
Maybe being sarcastic ?
 
I think you meant the complete islamization of Turkey...

Well, to be honest, first I had also uncertainty about that, actually whole Europe had(/has) that, but I have read many times, even a couple of days ago somewhere that the government renovated the 2nd biggest synagoge of Europe for an ammount of 1 million usd dollars.....
Can you expect a Mosque to be renovated for 1 million usd dollars or euros here in the Netherlands or Europe?
No way.... Not even for 1 thousand.

So an "extremist Islamist" who strives for an Islamic Republic or who has to do with "Islamization", wouldn't do such thing, on the contrary, they/he would close churches, synagoges etc.

Secondly, my comment was about the fact that the turkish defence makes incredible improvements with his attanding in the turkish politics. I know the Turkey of 15 years ago, because I have much relations here in NL with turkish people, been there a couple of times, and it was unbelievably dependent to other countries, especially, the usa etc.
They're still dependent, but the improvement is incredible if we look 15 years ago.

P.S. that I'm saying this, does not mean that it's somethin that makes my happy, or that it's something that I support or whatever... ;)

Shhh the foreigners always know best.
And he's obviously not dutch, cant immagine a dutch ever saying something like that.

I'm Dutch with my Heart and Sould.. (in Dutch we say it like "Nederlands in hart en nieren")
But this does not make me conceal or cover the truth/situation at the moment.

I'm happy that we don't have citizens like you, here in the Netherlands.
I can't imagine dutch people who critisize their own country to other countries.
:)
 
And he's obviously not dutch, cant immagine a dutch ever saying something like that.

That is an impressively ridiculous comment, man! Let me turn it around to show you :

Because I lack imagination ( and knowledge and open-mindedness ),
I can certify that someone else ( whom I never met ) is not from somewhere ( which I am not part of ).

If you believe that then you have no place discussing with anyone but Turks,
nor about anything but matters solely pertaining to Türkyie!

Just sayin' Tay.
 
Secondly, my comment was about the fact that the turkish defence makes incredible improvements with his attanding in the turkish politics. I know the Turkey of 15 years ago, because I have much relations here in NL with turkish people, been there a couple of times, and it was unbelievably dependent to other countries, especially, the usa etc.
They're still dependent, but the improvement is incredible if we look 15 years ago.

Mate, can you elaborate both "15 years ago Turkey was unbelievably dependent to other countries, especially, the usa etc." and "They're still dependent, but the improvement is incredible"

You are claiming these things based on ....... ?

I mean, are you talking about Turkish defense industry or in general. If you are talking about defense industry, i agree with you.. if you are talking in general...i will kindly ask you to elaborate and explain. :)
 
I still think that he has a foreign background or is simply missinformed about Tayyips wrongdoings.
 
that makes him what?
What do you wanna say? Actually i know exactly, just remember without him there wont be democracy in Turkey so spare me the trash talk.
 
Presidents before him were being elected by the people too in the Parliament. Having 21 million votes from 56 million voters doesn't give him the right to act as if he is above the constitution, which he took an oath on his honor and dignity not to break it, yet he does that almost on a daily basis. The president should represent the integrity of the state and solidarity of the people. But he does not represent me nor millions like me in his fancy palace. He is not impartial nor does he try to look as such. He is still the head of AKP more than he is the head of the state.
 
Presidents before him were being elected by the people too in the Parliament. Having 21 million votes from 56 million voters doesn't give him the right to act as if he is above the constitution, which he took an oath on his honor and dignity not to break it, yet he does that almost on a daily basis. The president should represent the integrity of the state and solidarity of the people. But he does not represent me nor millions like me in his fancy palace. He is not impartial nor does he try to look as such. He is still the head of AKP more than he is the head of the state.

I wouldn't vote for him if he didn't do every single thing he did.
 
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