Why can't Saudi Arabia and Iran talk?

[fitpOsitive]

We are the first state affected by KSA and Iran rivalry because we have a devoutly religious society. These states create fractures in our society to exploit.

Funny part is, as international gangsters gather around MBS to make him more hungry for throne and along the way more afraid of the fall of his future ambitions, UN lifted amrs embargoes from Iran and USA released frozen funds.

The people who think that (including MBS) West is on anyone's sides is fool of superlative degree.
Each side, Pakistan, Turkey, Saudia, Iran and Malaysia will die alone, a very painful death, while mumbling these last words: Oh! so that was the plan!!!

And btw, Russia is part of West!

 

[PK784]

Saudi being a insecure monarchy probably feel threatened by Iran

This sums it up for me:

" Saudi Arabia's image as the leader of the Muslim world was undermined in 1979 with the rise of Iran's new theocratic government under Ayatollah Khomeini, who challenged the legitimacy of the Al Saud dynasty and its authority as Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques "

 

[CrazyZ]

Foreign powers have been encouraging Sunni Vs Shia conflict in the ME so they can divide and conquer. CIA encouraged Iraqi Shia to rebel against Saddam for a long time. Exploiting Sunni Shia tension was a critical part of the later USA invasion of Iraq.

USA was also encouraging Iranian regional dominance as a way of containing Arab/Sunni elements they don't like. First the BAATH and Al Qaeda then later ISIS. The USA has been playing a double game, working to strengthen Iran on one hand but then hitting them with sanctions so they don't get too strong.

KSA and Iran are just pawns in a bigger game. Until leaders in Tehran and Riyadh understand this.....this conflict will continue. We need to engage both sides and prevent any bigger miscalculations.

 

[CrazyZ]

Their religious differences are not more than Christians.

Correct. Religious differences between Sunni and Shia is not as big as some may think.

 

[Imran Khan]

We will be affected too.

Then we need to pit our hoise in order . Its not saudi or itani fault .

 

[Super Falcon]

Because of their stupid egos iran should withdraw everything and openly ask ME that we will secure u and ask for friendship at all times but these both play into jews hands only benficiory of their war they dont see greater good if they throw arms

 

[Ich]

I dont know. Normally it would be so easy for all in the middle east if they would work together.

 

[CrazyZ]

I dont know. Normally it would be so easy for all in the middle east if they would work together.

Too much strategic natural resources at stake for out side powers too let any sort of peace and larger union to form. Elites in Europe actively back a regional union to prevent another world war. Stupid despots in ME are not so forward thinking. They will happily become pawns in someone else's chess board.

 

[Beast]

I know there are differences. Both want to take Down each other. But see, if USA can be friend of Saudi Arabia, if Russia can be friend of Iran, why can't Saudia and Iran be friends? Or is it someone else who is not letting you guys be friends?
Guys, just seek and search and kill the snakes in your groups, who want you to fight each other, who are agents of your "friends" .
Just hug each other, and try to forget past. Or I see heaps of corps in both sides. Please consider it.
Just leave the debate that who is the leader of Muslim world. We all are friends.

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You shall know Saudi is sunni(Arabic) and Iran is shia(Iranian). How can both get along?

Its like Greece orthodox Christian vs Turkey Muslim.

 

[CrazyZ]

You shall know Saudi is sunni(Arabic) and Iran is shia(Iranian). How can both get along?

Its like Greece orthodox Christian vs Turkey Muslim.

France and Germany have less in common and much deeper historic animosities then KSA and Iran, yet France and Germany can from the core of the EU? Its up to elites in KSA and Iran to reboot ties and encourage detente like elites in France and Germany did after WW2. I'm not very optimistic this will happen with the current leaders in the region.

 

[Beast]

France and Germany have less in common and much deeper historic animosities then KSA and Iran, yet France and Germany can from the core of the EU? Its up to elites in KSA and Iran to reboot ties and encourage detente like elites in France and Germany did after WW2. I'm not very optimistic this will happen with the current leaders in the region.

Germany and France are both catholic / christian protestant majority. Your comparisons failed

 

[raptor22]

Not related to religious as we have strong connections with many other Sunni countries.
On talks btw 2 Iran has always stated its readiness to start a direct talks in order to solve the misunderstandings for example our responses to Pakistan PMs' Imran Khan & Navaz Sharif or Iraqi PM or Oman has been always yes but all of them were rejected with the other side ... we don't have any problem to sit around table and talk with others as we sat and talked with 5+1 .. we are not afraid .. and it was Saudis that cut diplomatic relations not Iran.
The point is all Iran's efforts have been rejected by Saudis & still Iran is ready to engage in talks the reason is clear Iran think security in the region must by be internal and can not be bought ... other side think differently ... almost all Arab countries either have been occupied by american or are hosting american military bases ... work with them and that's one of the problem ...
Other thing is the nature of this Saudis .. they see their security in insecurity of others ...for example back in 2007~8 there were no Syrian war, Yemen war nothing but base on reports Saudis asked american to attack Iran ... why?

The problem ain't Iran .... the problem are those whom are in cahoots with others and meanwhile portray themselves as the leaders of Islam .. in every single conflict in this region you'd find them on american side ...
As Zarif once said even american say "In God we trust" but Saudis say"In american we trust" ....

 

[fitpOsitive]

Germany and France are both catholic / christian protestant majority. Your comparisons failed

So, Pakistan and China are allies right? Tell me something common between us?

 

[Beast]

So, Pakistan and China are allies right? Tell me something common between us?

No clash of interest. When you have a strong religion clause of both different believe , that is where the conflict will arrived.
Pakistan is Islamic while China is more on revival of China glorious past. No conflicting interest and therefore can work together.

Saudi and Iran both want to be the leader of Islam and both will not tolerate each other.

 

[fitpOsitive]

No clash of interest. When you have a strong religion clause of both different believe , that is where the conflict will arrived.
Pakistan is Islamic while China is more on revival of China glorious past. No conflicting interest and therefore can work together.

Saudi and Iran both want to be the leader of Islam and both will not tolerate each other.

That thing I addressed earlier. That no one is leader here. And we all can live without becoming leaders of each other.