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Why can't Saudi Arabia and Iran talk?

Iranian Azari (turkic speaking) rulers made the right decision to convert Iran to Shiism and dividing Islam into two parts effectively ending the Arabi sunni dominance and a start of Persian version of Islam.

Islam as a religion was heavily abused by cruel rulers at those times so a fresh restart aka as the Persian version got introduced.

BTW, do you agree that the current Persian gulf dictators are... dictators ? Installed by the US to loot the region!?


At that point in time, Turkish empires were ruling the Muslim world.

Right or wrong is not why I mentioned it, but to explain why the Persian Islamic world fell into decline.
 
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They haven't been "talking" over a millennium!!! Hence, entities like Turkey and Pak, who can "talk" to everyone among the humanity...

Interesting to note that both Ottomans and Mughals could count on allies from among all Muslim sects and even Non-Muslims in time of need. They were global empires in the real sense of the word. When these great empires fell, the little pieces were carved out by Europeans to pit brother with brother.

This was exemplified most in the Arab world, which was the focus of the Colonizers.
 
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BTW, do you agree that the current Persian gulf dictators are... dictators ? Installed by the US to loot the region!?

Yes, they do not represent their people, but are proxies to Western powers.

However Iran has also been promoting instability in the region.

There needs to be a convergence of policy between Turkey, Pakistan, and hopefully Iran to try to minimize the fall-out of the instability which will only increase in the Arab world.
 
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in this situation, US didnt help Iran intentionally, it was by mistake/ignorance/errors in strategy or actions.
I disagree, USA actively used Iran as vector to challenge Arab/Sunni actors that were mutually hostile. Obama regime in particular was keen on using Iran to strengthen Kabul and to reduce reliance on Pakistani supply lines. They also sanctioned Iran to keep them from getting too powerful. USA has been playing a double game with Iran.
 
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I disagree, USA actively used Iran as vector to challenge Arab/Sunni actors that were mutually hostile. Obama regime in particular was keen on using Iran to strengthen Kabul and to reduce reliance on Pakistani supply lines. They also sanctioned Iran to keep them from getting too powerful. USA has been playing a double game with Iran.


They know the best way to drive a wedge in the Muslim world is playing with Sunni/Shia and Arab/Persian game. Both factions fell fully into the traps and are subsequently weaker and have less legtimacy than before.

This is why a third center was needed in the form of Turkey to keep Muslim countries from splitting apart and to reduce sectarian/ethnic divisions.

Whereas KSA and Iran are playing their games to harm Muslim countries around them, Turkey has helped stabilize Northern Syria, Northern Iraq, and Libya.
 
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Many people say different things,mostly bad, about Arab people. But the fact it, Arabs helped Pakistan a lot.
And when Arabs needed Pakistan for their security, Pakistan backed off.
This is our real face.
 
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I was disappointed with Pakistan's reaction following the elimination of that war criminal and terrorist Soleimani. Pakistan's officials including confused Imran Khan kept repeating that stupid mantra "we won't participate in any war against Iran".
When will Pakistan realize Iran is a threat to our national security? They are not a friendly neighbor, they are a hostile that needs to be destabilized. We need to co-operate with America, Israel and their Arab allies to undermine Iran. Our goal should be total regime change. It would also be a good idea to acquire some territory from Iran and amalgamate it into Pakistan, namely the Sistan and Balochistan province. We should seize control of some Iranian oil and gas fields.
 
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I was disappointed with Pakistan's reaction following the elimination of that war criminal and terrorist Soleimani. Pakistan's officials including confused Imran Khan kept repeating that stupid mantra "we won't participate in any war against Iran".
When will Pakistan realize Iran is a threat to our national security? They are not a friendly neighbor, they are a hostile that needs to be destabilized. We need to co-operate with America, Israel and their Arab allies to undermine Iran. Our goal should be total regime change. It would also be a good idea to acquire some territory from Iran and amalgamate it into Pakistan, namely the Sistan and Balochistan province. We should seize control of some Iranian oil and gas fields.
I will slightly disagree with that. We better bring stability in the relations of Iran and Saudia.
See, the real problems lies in the internal matters of both Iran and Saudia.
In Iran, the regime imposes "Islamic" rule on people, which many people don't accept. That's the reason why irani regime has to become more and more fundamentalist by every day in order to keep things under control.
In Saudia, there are many prices who wants to become king, and that is creating more and more problematic for Saudis every day are getting black mailed for this.
If Pakistan brings little more flexibility in irani regime, and make little more straight for next Saudi kings selection, then this will be a great favor for the region.
 
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I was disappointed with Pakistan's reaction following the elimination of that war criminal and terrorist Soleimani. Pakistan's officials including confused Imran Khan kept repeating that stupid mantra "we won't participate in any war against Iran".
When will Pakistan realize Iran is a threat to our national security? They are not a friendly neighbor, they are a hostile that needs to be destabilized. We need to co-operate with America, Israel and their Arab allies to undermine Iran. Our goal should be total regime change. It would also be a good idea to acquire some territory from Iran and amalgamate it into Pakistan, namely the Sistan and Balochistan province. We should seize control of some Iranian oil and gas fields.

Come try it any time you like!
 
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Saudi think they are leader of Arabs while Iran think they are more religious and Arabs should follow their newly created papacy over Saudis, Iranian also claim to be enemy of US and it's Arab puppets But sometime US deliberately tend to help Iran like removing Saddam and Taliban.

Not complicated at all.
The real opening for war in Afghanistan and Iraq back in 2000 were ALQ,Taliban and Saddam ... first ones were terrorist groups and last one a dictator ... go see whom had supported & recognized them for years ... we didn't .. we fought them both.
And unlike what you think removing Saddam wasn't done in favor of Iran but isreal and pushed by isreal to counter Iran but plans went wrong:

And again what nationalities with what ideology attacked 2 trade centers which gave such an opening .. not ours ...
So no help for Iran ... plan was to contain Iran and presence in central Asia to fight China presence.

Sure by your childish mind nothing is complicated at all.

I was disappointed with Pakistan's reaction following the elimination of that war criminal and terrorist Soleimani. Pakistan's officials including confused Imran Khan kept repeating that stupid mantra "we won't participate in any war against Iran".
When will Pakistan realize Iran is a threat to our national security? They are not a friendly neighbor, they are a hostile that needs to be destabilized. We need to co-operate with America, Israel and their Arab allies to undermine Iran. Our goal should be total regime change. It would also be a good idea to acquire some territory from Iran and amalgamate it into Pakistan, namely the Sistan and Balochistan province. We should seize control of some Iranian oil and gas fields.
Thanks God such an idiotic ideas have no support amongst Pakistani people ...
 
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