what will be pakistan's answer to rafale

[true]

Don't bluff our Pakistani friends here, we know what India is capable of! We can nail you you down anytime we want, those 36 Rafael's are piece of junk when face J20. J10c is enough for Rafale, more than enough. As the Rafale is not air superior type.

Su35 is a stop gap for F35 before J20 induction, not Rafale. You shall understand it. Pakistanis friends just don't loose hope, cause everything is under China's control when it comes to Inida.

The best counterpart for Rafale is naturally born always J10c.

Just look how Indian member brag about Rafale in this thread and try to scare others. I just don't buy it. If one day J10 c shoot Rafale down, you sck my a$$.

PL21 ramjet BVR missile is ready there for Rafale.

I just don't don't buy it, scare me? Come on!

LOL the delusion in this post and people here mock HAL, LCA

 

[Akasa]

if the chinese were so confident in there platforms they would never have signed a deal to buy the SU-35s

If the Chinese were so trusting of the Su-35 exhibiting any significant advantage, they would never have ordered merely 24 of them. The Su-35 deal is a separate matter and should be dealt as such.

 

[帅的一匹]

If the Chinese were so trusting of the Su-35 exhibiting any significant advantage, they would never have ordered merely 24 of them. The Su-35 deal is a separate matter and should be dealt as such.

Sure, we don't count on Su35. It's only for reinforcement, not even for stop gap. Our stop gap is J10 c and J11d/j16.

 

[Akasa]

even the chinese don't take the J-31 seriously its just a toy to them, the J-31 is levels below a rafale, i'd rather pilot a rafale then pilot a testbed/experiment type plane which was designed for show.

Great, tell me about your experience working with the J-31's engineering team. I'm listening.

 

[帅的一匹]

Russians offered 48, we only want 4. The result is 24.

 

[cerberus]

"Combat experience", especially against an opponent with little viable air power, isn't exactly a goldmine of a testament to its combat capabilities. Engineering simulations and acceptance trials take care of that for any nation unwilling to devote to a war just to validate their military equipment.

The Rafale has plenty of "rivals" in Asia, if you so wish to leave its definition vague: F-15K, F-15SG, F-15SA, J-11D, J-10B/C, J-16, F-16Q, etc.

But The Main Hindrance What We are Facing is Low Serviceability Of these High-end Aircraft Specially with AL-31 Series Engine's Failure Rates.Really As Primary User off this Engine Both PLAAF & IAF Know its Limitations

 

[帅的一匹]

But The Main Hindrance What We are Facing is Low Serviceability Of these High-end Aircraft Specially with AL-31 Series Engine's Failure Rates.Really As Primary User off this Engine Both PLAAF & IAF Know its Limitations

We know Russian engine is not reliable, that's why we develop Taihang engine. Now we finally see the fruit.

 

[Akasa]

But The Main Hindrance What We are Facing is Low Serviceability Of these High-end Aircraft Specially with AL-31 Series Engine's Failure Rates.Really As Primary User off this Engine Both PLAAF & IAF Know its Limitations

Correct, the AL-31 has a less-than-perfect record. However, the J-10C will have to be exported with Chinese engines, the maturity of which should come in time (as with any prospect of a Pakistani purchase).

 

[帅的一匹]

China designs and India buys, China wins for sure. We already build nearly 100 J10b/c in several years, how36 Rafale is gonna deal with it? Not to mention the numerous J11d and J16 we will have in the near future.

 

[帅的一匹]

Correct, the AL-31 has a less-than-perfect record. However, the J-10C will have to be exported with Chinese engines, the maturity of which should come in time (as with any prospect of a Pakistani purchase).

It takes patience , just a matter of time. Government had invested 20 billions USD to form a specialized engine development organization while our rival spend half of it to buy only 36 fighters off the shelf.

Rafale can perform these missions ;

– Air-defence / air-superiority,
– Anti-Access/Aera Denial,
– Reconnaissance,
– Close air support,
– Dynamic Targeting,
– Air-to-ground precision strike / interdiction,
– Anti-ship attacks,
– Nuclear deterrence,
– buddy-buddy refuelling.

J10 is so supapowa that Pakistanis haven't even bought 1pc of it,reason they are looking for F16s.

PAF will induct J10 c, mark my post.

 

[Dalit]

China designs and India buys, China wins for sure. We already build nearly 100 J10b/c in several years, how36 Rafale is gonna deal with it? Not to mention the numerous J11d and J16 we will have in the near future.

China is driving on the high way and India is still stuck in the mud.

These Indians are a deluded bunch. It took them years just to select a fighter. They still haven't signed a contract and are working out a deal. They think they have acquired some divine power which will elevate them to the superpower status.

There is no comparison between India and China. Even though delusional Indians with the backing of their master the US like to create this impression.

These people can't even properly feed their poor and are high on Rafale fighters. Talk about priorities.

 

[帅的一匹]

These Indians are a deluded bunch. It took them years just to select a fighter. They still haven't signed a contract and are working out a deal. They think they have acquired some divine power which will elevate them to the superpower status.

There is no comparison between India and China. Even though delusional Indians with the backing of their master the US like to create this impression.

These people can't even properly feed their poor and are high on Rafale fighters.

We ready to provide aid to Pakidtan anytime you ask. Just take your time. As long as China stays strong, India don't stand a chance to bully.

 

[barbarosa]

We ready to provide aid to Pakidtan anytime you ask. Just take your time. As long as China stays strong, India don't stand a chance to bully.

Love for all the people of the great China.

 

[Dalit]

Rafale can perform these missions ;

– Air-defence / air-superiority,
– Anti-Access/Aera Denial,
– Reconnaissance,
– Close air support,
– Dynamic Targeting,
– Air-to-ground precision strike / interdiction,
– Anti-ship attacks,
– Nuclear deterrence,
– buddy-buddy refuelling.

J10 is so supapowa that Pakistanis haven't even bought 1pc of it,reason they are looking for F16s.

First, Pakistan isn't looking for F-16s. The Americans made the offer for 8 F-16s. Get your facts right.

Secondly, had Rafale really been such a huge success it wouldn't have had so much trouble finding customers throughout the years. We haven't forgotten how difficult it has been for the French to find a prospect buyer. India is still working out a deal after so many debacles. The French are going to compromise massively and you know it. The Indians are milking the French and stalling the deal for a reason. They want maximum result and the French are going to abide.

As for the specs and roles, most of the roles mentioned can also be conducted by J-10B fighter. I think you need to recheck your facts. Let's not even talk about Chinese 5th gen aircraft which are a different breed altogether. China is in a different league and the Rafale won't trouble it one little bit.

 

[mkb95]

These Indians are a deluded bunch. It took them years just to select a fighter. They still haven't signed a contract and are working out a deal. They think they have acquired some divine power which will elevate them to the superpower status.

There is no comparison between India and China. Even though delusional Indians with the backing of their master the US like to create this impression.

These people can't even properly feed their poor and are high on Rafale fighters. Talk about priorities.

irony is too much