Boeing's F-15EX Eagle-II fighter may join race for Indian Air Force contract

[SuvarnaTeja]

“F-15 hota” statements will come too

All US equipment to India come with kill switches and condition that they would not be used against Pakistan.

 

[SQ8]

All US equipment to India come with kill switches and condition that they would not be used against Pakistan.

Unlikely. But any US equipment will take them another 8 years to truly absorb and integrate.

 

[Black Tornado]

This is just an offer, IAF will never purchase them.

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

This is just an offer, IAF will never purchase them.

SU-30 and MIG-29 are dead as IAF can no longer get spares.

So IAF needs to find a replacement.

F-15EX is the only one that could replace Su-30 MKIs.

F/A-18 will replace naval MIG-29Ks while Rafales will replace MIG-29 UPGs

 

[HassanCheema]

anything can join the pointless race.Indian govt will be struggling to pay for everything. There is limit for everything, western support is not unlimited. Indians cannot match Chinese that’s the end line no matter what the buy.

Example they were all cozy up with uae and the lot and when time comes here comes the sanctions etc.


With Russian game going on and China buffing up , it will be interesting to see how India can cope with so much changing development.


On the other note Japanese nation mood about the whole world situation.

China gave guarantee to Ukraine for security but unable to act.
NATO USA was beefed up before war but unable to provide anything . Day will come when China will make her move and japan America the lot will unable to do anything. Point QUAD is a hogwash.

India can do whatever she want for local consumption but India remains on losing side no matter what She acquires.

F15ex is not going to save them anything.
Btw how many years before they can actually buy a single unit?
How about training and building whole eco system for eagles ?

With fascist govt in India no hope for peace in South Asia.

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

comparison of J16 and F15 E ?

J16 can carry more payload

J-16’s heavier payload than F-15EX demonstrated

Similar to F-15, China’s J-16 fighter jet has been known for its heavy payloads. However, a model of a fully-loaded J-16 still caused exclaims on the internet of China recently. This model is widely believed to be an official one and demonstrates J-16’s missile-mounting capability even higher...

www.china-arms.com

J-16 is comparable to F/A-18 than F15-EX

J-16 has a growler version too similar to F/A-18

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

All US products come with the following

1) Quality and Reliability
2) High Price Tag
3) No ToT
4) Down graded capability for export versions
5) No Nukes
6) Kill Switches
7) Conditions on Where, When and How they can be used
8) Threat of sanctions

 

[GriffinsRule]

its a great aircraft but not sure if it makes sense given how many Su-30s they already have in service, which is in the same class of heavies as the F-15. For that reason only I dont think its viable, but who knows?

 

[Goritoes]

If IAF get their hands of F-15's and its a big because of geopolitics and IAF more inclination towards the Russian equipment's then bad times for PAF.

 

[Madni Bappa]

The Indian Air Force (IAF), which is acquiring 114 multi-role combat aircraft (MRCA) from the global market, will relish the option of buying the highly capable F-15EX Eagle-II, developed and built by The Boeing Company.

The Eagle-II is the world’s fastest (Mach 2.5, or 3,100 kilometres per hour) and most heavily-armed (payload of 13.6 tonnes, or 30,000 pounds) fighter, with the longest strike range (1,200 nautical miles or 2,222 kilometres). It has scored 104 kills in air-to-air combat without suffering a single loss.

Boeing has obtained a mandatory licence from the US government for discussing an F-15 sale with India. Pratyush Kumar, until recently Boeing’s chief in India, now heads the F-15 Eagle-II programme in the US. During his tenure in New Delhi, Kumar was associated with the induction of multiple Boeing platforms into India’s military, including the P-8I Poseidon maritime aircraft, the C-17 Globemaster III heavy-lift transporter, the Apache AH-64E attack helicopter and the Chinook CH-47F heavy-lift chopper.

When Kumar was transferred to Boeing’s F-15 programme in Saint Louis, USA, his golden touch logged up the United States Air Force’s (USAF’s) purchase of 144 F-15EX Eagle-IIs. These will replace the venerable F-15C, which has, for decades, been the USAF’s primary air dominance fighter.

Last year, the USAF took delivery of its first game-changing Eagle-IIs, while Qatar received its first F-15QA Ababil fighters. Boeing also contracted with Japan to upgrade the Japan Air Self-Defence Force’s legacy F-15J fighters to the F-15 Japan Super Interceptor (F-15JSI).The club of existing F-15EX operators includes the US, Israel, Japan, Singapore, South Korea and, most recently, Qatar. Kumar describes the F-15 Eagle-II as “the ideal high-end fighter for the high-end fight”.This latest avatar of the F-15 is designed to deal with the world’s most potent air threats that are emerging from China. These threats include hypersonic, re-targetable, long-range missiles; and advanced “early warning and control” (AW&C) aircraft that can observe low-flying fighters at longer ranges. To deal with these threats, Boeing is equipping the Eagle-II with faster missiles that have longer ranges, faster processors for radars, better data-link capabilities and that can take more weapons into the fight.

Kumar says the F-15EX will be continuously upgraded, since it has adequate physical space, computing infrastructure, structural strength and engine power.

The Eagle-II will be competing in the Indian MRCA tender against seven other types of combat aircraft. Of these, six were offered to the IAF by six original equipment manufacturers (OEMs) in response to a 2007 tender for 126 fighters (six squadrons).That tender – the world’s biggest at the time – fizzled out into a much smaller purchase of 36 Rafale fighters. Now, with the IAF initiating a fresh acquisition of 114 fighters (six squadrons) in 2019, improved variants of those six fighters have re-entered the fray.

Besides the earlier six, another two fighters have thrown their hats into the ring for the current tender, which is likely to be even bigger at $15-20 billion.

In 2007, the IAF was offered four twin-engine aircraft: Boeing’s F/A-18E/F Super Hornet; Dassault’s Rafale, Eurofighter GmbH’s Typhoon, and Russia’s RAC MiG-35. In addition, two single-engine aircraft were fielded: Lockheed Martin’s F-16 Super Viper; and Swedish firm, Saab’s Gripen E/F.

The new tender, initiated in 2019, is likely to see two more big, twin-engine fighters competing: the F-15EX Eagle-II and Russia’s Sukhoi-35.

Boeing faces a difficult choice over which fighter to offer in the MRCA tender: the Eagle-II or the Super Hornet. “Offering the F-15EX would result in Boeing pulling out the Super Hornet from the MRCA contest,” says a senior company official.

However, Boeing is extremely confident in its offer of the Super Hornet for the Indian Navy’s tender of 57 “twin-engine deck-based fighters” (TEDBF). However, with uncertainty over the prospect of a second indigenous aircraft carrier (IAC-2) in the navy, the 57-TEDBF competition seems to be morphing into the purchase of a smaller number of jets.

The MRCA’s specifications are not yet out, so Boeing is uncertain about whether the Eagle-II or the Super Hornet would be a better fit for the IAF. “India needs to relook at their force structure in the light of Rafale and Tejas orders. If the gap is at the high performance end, the F-15EX could be a fit. But these are early days,” says the Boeing official.

Boeing's Eagle-II fighter may join race for Indian Air Force contract

Move may result in the US aircraft manufacturer pulling out Super Hornet from MRCA contest; tender value could be $15-20 billion

www.business-standard.com

A race to nowhere?? What about the expensive Predator drone deal?

 

[JX-1]

Sir
I don't know why paf don't like twin engine fighter jets?
Afaik the Reasoms are
Twin engine maintenance
---- So it is their duty to maintain the fleet

The NGFA will be twin gen. In the past, twin engines such as the A-5 have been used. F-16, J-10 and JF-17 can fire all the missiles a twin engine aircraft can. For this reason there has been no real incentive to buy twin engines which cost double the price in engines with a tiny boost in capability.

IAF's actions in 2019 show that a missile truck is worse than multiple small aircraft.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

SU-30 and MIG-29 are dead as IAF can no longer get spares.

When you can still buy oil from Russia (after Ukraine attack) than who told you that India can no longer get spares.

 

[Princeps Senatus]

Sir
I don't know why paf don't like twin engine fighter jets?
Afaik the Reasoms are
Twin engine maintenance
---- So it is their duty to maintain the fleet

Pakistan's geography and PAF's doctrine suits single-engine fighters

 

[maverick1977]

J-16 is comparable to F/A-18 than F15-EX

J-16 has a growler version too similar to F/A-18

lol ! wrong … look at their specifications

 

[notorious_eagle]

So, are we done pretending that the SU30MKI is only second to the F22? The Cobra Dancer, the MINI AWAC, the second best fighter aircraft in the world to the F22. The Aircraft that always wins 10-0 against the likes of Rafale, Eurofighter, F16 and F15 etc.

Is that charade over? I must say, Indians do a huge disservice to their morale by over hyping every weapon system they acquire