Vikramditya & the IAC Vikrant Threat To Pakistan Waters

[Mitro]

If you see the post i was responding say around 400 km
Once a missile hits the carrier most of it fighting capacity is gone and its sitting duck relying on other platform.

Paf and Pn Sea denial capacity
1)Pakistan has received 120 Chinese C602 anti-ship cruise missile
400+ km / 280+ km for export .
2)280 km (CM-802AKG); 180 km (C-802A)
3)CM-400AKG anti-ship missile
4)SM39 submarine-launched
5)Am-39 Air Lauch-missile
6)AGM-84A air-launched


Coastal defence battery,Mirage,Jf-17,Agosta 90B,F-22p frigate.
P-3 Orion Maritime Aircraft,Missile boats

Couple of hits won't take an AC out of war.
You are also under the assumption that the AC has to be close to the coast to enforce a blockade. An AC can enforce a distant blockade too.
When you are talking about sea denial capacity of PN, do you know how many resources PN & PAF have to dedicate to take care of the threat posed by Vikramaditya?

 

[Basel]

If you see the post i was responding say around 400 km
Once a missile hits the carrier most of it fighting capacity is gone and its sitting duck relying on other platform.
Paf and Pn Sea denial capacity
1)Pakistan has received 120 Chinese C602 anti-ship cruise missile
400+ km / 280+ km for export .
2)280 km (CM-802AKG); 180 km (C-802A)
3)CM-400AKG anti-ship missile
4)SM39 submarine-launched
5)Am-39 Air Lauch-missile
6)AGM-84A air-launched
Coastal defence battery,Mirage,Jf-17,Agosta 90B,F-22p frigate.
P-3 Orion Maritime Aircraft,Missile boats

This is the most sane post in response to my post here, what ppl don't understand is that PN will not fight to get control of the sea they will fight for sea denial and for that as a professional force they have purchased systems which fits their doctrine and also know what capacity IN have. What PN want is to make war so costly for IN so they don't come to blockade for Pakistani sea routes and ports, and PN have now some other more lethal assets too which are not disclosed, there were rumors that PN might have big brother with twice the range, speed and capability of so called carrier killer missile of PAF although even PAF don't call it a carrier killer but it is effective against them.

 

[Mitro]

Did china care about the world when they gave pakistan the ballistic missile and nuclear technology .
Barak 8 Missile max range is 70 km
When IAF are destroying the batteries PAF are taking vacation in K-2

1-China cannot export missile of range more than 300km due to MTCR
2-the AC will have barak 8 missile defence sysytem
3-the IAF will neutralize these batteries by bombing....

 

[Basel]

@Czar786 well said, what u said in first line many ppl in India don't understand that China damn care about world when it comes to safeguard its interest and in Pakistan it has long term strategic interest, even some of them call Pakistan their Israel. They forgot that after May 2, 2011 how they responded to Pakistan's concerns, after that there were news that in case of hostilities with India specially they will provide any thing what is required to safeguard Pakistani borders.

 

[Mitro]

Yeah i know how china said if you mess with Islamabad you mess with Beijing
they will never fight with india but they will keep india busy with pakistan and will provide anything they need.so india will be always pakistan centric not china .

@Czar786 well said, what u said in first line many ppl in India don't understand that China damn care about world when it comes to safeguard its interest and in Pakistan it has long term strategic interest, even some of them call Pakistan their Israel. They forgot that after May 2, 2011 how they responded to Pakistan's concerns, after that there were news that in case of hostilities with India specially they will provide any thing what is required to safeguard Pakistani borders.

 

[indiatester]

If you see the post i was responding say around 400 km
Once a missile hits the carrier most of it fighting capacity is gone and its sitting duck relying on other platform.

Paf and Pn Sea denial capacity
1)Pakistan has received 120 Chinese C602 anti-ship cruise missile
400+ km / 280+ km for export .
2)280 km (CM-802AKG); 180 km (C-802A)
3)CM-400AKG anti-ship missile
4)SM39 submarine-launched
5)Am-39 Air Lauch-missile
6)AGM-84A air-launched


Coastal defence battery,Mirage,Jf-17,Agosta 90B,F-22p frigate.
P-3 Orion Maritime Aircraft,Missile boats

If an AC is within 400 kms of the coast, then most possibly the resistance has been obliterated by that time.
Again the point I disagree with is that one hit taking out most of the fighting capacity of an AC. While it is not entirely impossible, but for it to happen, the attackers must be very very lucky.
@Penguin You have explained this earlier in part, but can you please tell us generally how saturated the attack must be to take out an AC.

 

[Janmejay]

Did china care about the world when they gave pakistan the ballistic missile and nuclear technology .
Barak 8 Missile max range is 70 km
When IAF are destroying the batteries PAF are taking vacation in K-2

lol,i can also say that brahmos range is more than 600km......
There is a thread named "nuclear chronology of pakistan",read it first,dont assume things.....
There will be a lot of pressure on PAF due to IAF already so PAF cant afford to......
and IAF will not be used for bombing but fighter planes of navy will be used for it....
@Basel

 

[ejaz007]

CM-400AKG: Pakistan's supersonic carrier killer | Page 20

Has been discussed.

And what is the outcome of that discussion.

My point is very simple one. Couple of hits would take any carrier out of war. It is not hard to understand. If IN has found a way to tackle this kind of situation then share with us.

 

[Janmejay]

And what is the outcome of that discussion.

My point is very simple one. Couple of hits would take any carrier out of war. It is not hard to understand. If IN has found a way to tackle this kind of situation then share with us.

its range is not more than 300 km due to MTCR

 

[ejaz007]

its range is not more than 300 km due to MTCR

Range does not describe how lethal a weapons is.

 

[Janmejay]

Range does not describe how lethal a weapons is.

of course,but the AC will be at 500 km distance from your coastline so how you are planning to hit it by land based anti ship missiles?
even if you manage to hit it,we will repair it and deploy it again....

 

[Alpha1]

of course,but the AC will be at 500 km distance from your coastline so how you are planning to hit it by land based anti ship missiles?
even if you manage to hit it,we will repair it and deploy it again....

once it is rendered useless in battle during an Indo-pak conflict by the time it gets fixed the confict will be over.
we aim to put it out of the battle atleast

 

[HariPrasad]

Yes, China will not go to war with India if India attacked us but they had and will commit / provide assets to ensure that India don't get dominance in whole war.

This has not happened in past. Lt us see what happens in future. So far as India is concern, we shall try to avoid the war so far as possible. If war is imposed on US like 1971 or 1999, we shall fight it out.

 

[Star Wars]

why do we need a carrier to blockade Pakistan anyway ? carrier wont be used anywhere in the east , there are enough IAF aircrafts..besides..... its highly possible IAF will take out the coastal defense assets before viki is used ( even if it is used )

 

[HariPrasad]

Pakistan is able to hit u hard and your economy cant take that hit

Are you accepting the bankruptcy of Pakistan?

If it will be diployed 400 kms from coast of Pakistan then it will be in trouble, because PN coastal defense can hit beyond 400 kms. PN even dont have to use other assets for that, but to punish IN CBG hard in your said rang PN can bring hell to your CBG with its limited resources due to its net centric capability.

PN posses this system for coastal defense but there are also other systems too.

C-602 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Aforesaid system has been discussed on PDF link below:

Pakistan received 120 cruise missiles C602 from China

Not at all a threat once Barak 1 and LRSAM is deployed. Viky also can JAM it any time. Absolute no Issue.