Pakistan Navy to Purchase Frigates from China

[khanasifm]

How many construction berths does karachi ship yard has, that is how many ships can be constructed simultaneously?, anyone?

3

 

[Awan68]

3

That is bloody disgraceful, guess the new lift ordered to shift ships inland would increase the capability somewhat..

 

[Bossman]

That is bloody disgraceful, guess the new lift ordered to shift ships inland would increase the capability somewhat..

13 ships of 7000 Tonnes simultaneously

 

[Awan68]

13 ships of 7000 Tonnes simultaneously

After the lift is installed or are u talking about the current capacity?

 

[syed_yusuf]

After the lift is installed or are u talking about the current capacity?

This should be after 2018 when upgrades takes place at KSEW

currently it is may be max 5 berths

 

[Umar.farooq.9]

My realistic future Navy for pakistan include
12 conventional submarines all AIP propulsion(2subs for nuclear deterrence)
If possible 2nuclear submarines with SLBM
14advanced multi mission frigates
4 Corvettes
8 to 10 missile boats
8 Fast attack crafts
1 squadron of p8
2 squadrons of su35 or any other long range air craft with anti ship missiles
And if we are lucky 2 destroyers

 

[khanasifm]

That is bloody disgraceful, guess the new lift ordered to shift ships inland would increase the capability somewhat..

Check google map or earth [emoji290]

 

[khanasifm]

Still no news on the type from any sources ?? PN, Oem or Jane’s

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

I think as many users have stated in past it will be F22P (PLUS) or C28A Class frigate which was designated for export by China as nations like Algeria/Bangladesh and even Pakistan have aquired this ship

However for CPEC we really need a Type 052 level 4-6 ships via Grant program for CPEC

C28A

F22P

It really will be interesting to see which Frigates have the Navy Choosen


Ideally we need 6 Larger vessels for a Decisive Presence in Region
This is what generally the defence experts suggest, specially for CPEC

Type 052 Class defence unit

 

[khanasifm]

It will depend on the budget and the capability mix not wish list

 

[khanasifm]

F22p were less than 200 million a piece vs Turkish offer today with price tag of 250-300 and some of the system have to be imported like air defence missiles etc bottom line if one can get frigate with similar capability in same price why not but I guess pn knows what it wants and can afford

 

[khanasifm]

Which media are they quoting


Chinese media said this is the first time that Pakistan confirmed the contracts and assumed that Pakistan is more likely to have purchased Chinese new type of frigates with a displacement of more than 4,000 tons and features of integrated mast and vertical launch system.

https://thediplomat.com/2017/10/pakistan-navy-to-purchase-frigates-from-china/

The new type with integrated mast is not type 54


http://www.janes.com/article/69073/china-s-csoc-showcases-a-new-4-000-tonne-frigate

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

F22p were less than 200 million a piece vs Turkish offer today with price tag of 250-300 and some of the system have to be imported like air defence missiles etc bottom line if one can get frigate with similar capability in same price why not but I guess pn knows what it wants and can afford

It's worth remembering that the F-22P isn't equipped with the same standard of electronics as the MILGEM Ada or even the Chinese C28A. E.g. whereas the latter make use of the Thales SMART-S Mk2 phased-array radar, the F-22P uses legacy mechanically-steered system. If we had equipped the F-22P with comparable electronics, then I am very confident that the unit price would have rose from $175 m each to $225 m, easily. Likewise, if the PN is indeed going for the CSOC 4,000-ton frigate or the IDEAS frigate, then the price of each will not be less than $350-400 m. But if those are coming with APAR, passive OTH, VLS and LR-SAM, then that's a bargain as a similar Western ship would cost $600-750+ m each.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

8 Ships on Grant or Lease would be ideal to safe guard CPEC , how long is the chinese Lease on port 50-100 years?

Would make sense to get a 'Grant' / Lease for ships 6-8 for duration of Security needs

Need some confidence building Multiplier


It would make sense

Lease of 8 Ships would also be acceptable as it could be tied to Pakistan Navy's goals for Buy as you go process as Navy gets funds they can make payments on the final purchase etc

"In order to protect CPEC we need 8 advance ships it is very simple equation"​

 

[ziaulislam]

8 Ships on Grant or Lease would be ideal to safe guard CPEC , how long is the chinese Lease on port 50-100 years?

Would make sense to get a 'Grant' / Lease for ships 6-8 for duration of Security needs

Need some confidence building Multiplier


It would make sense

Lease of 8 Ships would also be acceptable as it could be tied to Pakistan Navy's goals for Buy as you go process as Navy gets funds they can make payments on the final purchase etc

"In order to protect CPEC we need 8 advance ships it is very simple equation"​

no thank you
no grants