Pakistan Navy to Purchase Frigates from China

[Ultima Thule]

No it's not China when it comes to CPEC you can expect anything. China will earn billions of dollars from it giving few ships won't do any harm to them since 1965 till 1990 China almost gave us weapons for free they can do a lot when it comes to their long term benefits

1 or 2 may be but 8 too much @AZADPAKISTAN2009 living in fantasy world and wishful thinking and remember sir PLAN just start to induct TYPE-52D, this is their newest DDG, first priority is equipped PLAN to counter US, Japanese and South Korean navies so there will be least chance that we can get TYPE-52D in near future but may be new FFG like TYPE-57

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Well compared to the other nations like Japan who have 50 ships Pakistan Navy has minimum numbers etc even Indonesia has tones of ships

So we have to be realistic , if we say CPEC is a MAJOR economic corridor then we must also have defence setup with 8 destroyers with Pakistan Navy makes complete sense why should China scramble Destroyers from China to Pakistan , when these 8 Destroyers can permenently stay in Gawadar and guard the sea

It would make sense Chinese fleet protects South China sea and ten a boosted up Pakistan Navy Guards the West Coast gawadar port

 

[Zarvan]

1 or 2 may be but 8 too much @AZADPAKISTAN2009 living in fantasy world and wishful thinking and remember sir PLAN just start to induct TYPE-52D, this is their newest DDG, first priority is equipped PLAN to counter US, Japanese and South Korean navies so there will be least chance that we can get TYPE-52D in near future but may be new FFG like TYPE-57

We have gotten lot of things from China janab so not fantasy world but ourselves won't want to get them for free. We would like to pay for the weapons. As for ship which ever ship it should have VLS for Cruise Missiles

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Not Fantasy but a strategic reality if a Corridor of economic value is there a Massive defence force should also be there at Sea

• Destroyer Ships will offer , nice Sea to Air protection
  
• Safe guard against any incoming missiles
  
• Will secure the area with wide range radar at sea

CPEC is serious stuff


Tomorrow if Russian Ships will bring Gas to Pakistan need to protect Gas Ships or Cargo of MI-35 Helicopters

 

[Ultima Thule]

The reason is fully justify in case of war , China needs to have 8 Destroyers available on CPEC port and the best solution is a Grant to Pakistan of 8 Destroyers to safeguard any illegal trouble makers

China has to protect the China Southern Sea
and now also has to protect Western Gawadar port

And it would be easier if Pakistan maintains 8 destroyers To help ease the burden of looking after CPEC

Also the destroyers would help , against any illegal Battlistic missile coming from unwanetd nations

Really in both Russia / China's interest

Russia wants to sell oil and China has lot of trade

Lease for 30 years would be also realistic figure

This would be a ideal choice 8

No 8 is too much for PN 3-4 will be enough for Pakistan and CEPEC, which has a least chance chance to get because TYPE-52D China's newest DDG, first priority is to arm PLAN as quickly as
possible to counter US, Japanese and South Korean navies

 

[Advocate Pakistan]

No 8 is too much for PN 3-4 will be enough for Pakistan and CEPEC, which has a least chance chance to get because TYPE-52D China's newest DDG, first priority is to arm PLAN as quickly as
possible to counter US, Japanese and South Korean navies

Agree.
Plus, if you all just noticed, in the past two decades, we haven't got the best which China had, it has always been their tier 2, 3 product that made into Pakistan.
Now, is it the Pakistanis that don't want the best from China or is it the Chinese that don't offer their best is the question. But if it's the latter one, than forget any Destroyer or J11s, you are not even getting a decent air defence ship.
The downsides of relying too much on one supplier, earlier it was U.S., now it's China.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Not Fantasy but a strategic reality if a Corridor of economic value is there a Massive defence force should also be there at Sea

• Destroyer Ships will offer , nice Sea to Air protection
  
• Safe guard against any incoming missiles
  
• Will secure the area with wide range radar at sea

CPEC is serious stuffCPECOTE]
For those purpose 3-4 TYPE-52D will be enough for CPEC, 8 will too much for CPEC @AZADPAKISTAN2009

Agree.
Plus, if you all just noticed, in the past two decades, we haven't got the best which China had, it has always been their tier 2, 3 product that made into Pakistan.
Now, is it the Pakistanis that don't want the best from China or is it the Chinese that don't offer their best is the question. But if it's the latter one, than forget any Destroyer or J11s, you are not even getting a decent air defence ship.
The downsides of relying too much on one supplier, earlier it was U.S., now it's China.

Unfortunately we lack resources and $$$$$$$ to buy their best weapons

Not Fantasy but a strategic reality if a Corridor of economic value is there a Massive defence force should also be there at Sea

• Destroyer Ships will offer , nice Sea to Air protection
  
• Safe guard against any incoming missiles
  
• Will secure the area with wide range radar at sea

CPEC is serious stuff


Tomorrow if Russian Ships will bring Gas to Pakistan need to protect Gas Ships or Cargo of MI-35 Helicopters

No 8 is too much for PN 3-4 will be enough for Pakistan and CEPEC, which has a least chance chance to get because TYPE-52D China's newest DDG, first priority is to arm PLAN as quickly as
possible to counter US, Japanese and South Korean navies and PN Chief is saying that PN looking for FFG not DDG with a decent AESA and long range SAMS FFG as effective as large DDG like up coming TYPE-57

 

[Thunder.Storm]

CDWP also recommended two projects of Transport and Communications with a total proposed cost of Rs. 193 billion. Both of these projects were referred to ECNEC for further approval.
The projects approved in Transport and Communications sector are:

• Design, Tendering Assistance and Construction of Malakand Tunnel Project valuing Rs. 177.9 billion
• Procurement/Construction of 06 x Maritime Patrol Vessels (4 x 600 Tons and 2 x 1500 Tons MPVs) for Pakistan Maritime Security Agency (PMSA) at a cost of Rs. 15.948 billion.

https://propakistani.pk/2017/10/20/31-development-projects-worth-rs-360-billion-approved-cdwp/

 

[khanasifm]

Bottom line no one has clue so far what is ordered nothing from Jane’s or Chinese media just speculation in news like on pdf

 

[khanasifm]

Jane’s Nov 2016 so perhaps 2+2

 

[Muhammad Omar]

2 Will be made in China & 2 in Pakistan

 

[Gryphon]

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Jane’s Nov 2016 so perhaps 2+2

Could be any design (the one displayed at IDEAS 2016 or Tiger or worst case F-22P). Jane's isn't as reliable as people here think.

 

[khanasifm]

Could be any design (the one displayed at IDEAS 2016 or Tiger or worst case F-22P). Jane's isn't as reliable as people here think.

At least an estimate of the number to be ordered by Pn is known, looks like type 21 will be replaced by it and Turkish ordered if order will be first time taking surface fleet over 12 meaning 12 ships over 2000 tons

So 4+4+4

 

[Gryphon]

At least an estimate of the number to be ordered by Pn is known, looks like type 21 will be replaced by it and Turkish ordered if order will be first time taking surface fleet over 12 meaning 12 ships over 2000 tons

So 4+4+4

Depends on the role.
If PN has contracted Tiger class or F-22P, then likely 4
If the AAW frigate displayed at IDEAS 2016, then 2 or 3

4 Milgem ASW corvette's aren't contracted yet.

So, 4 F-22P + 1 OHP + (2 to 4) Chinese frigates + possible 4 Milgem Ada = 11-13 frigates/corvette's in the medium term.

 

[HRK]

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Jane’s Nov 2016 so perhaps 2+2

which mean it will be a new design .... not F-22(P)