PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

[Deino]

Apparently the golden canopy is some accomplishment to Pakistanis.

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Why is this an accomplished „to Pakistan“? J-10s have this tinted canopy since years…

Detail of J10CE of PAF by Sqn Ldr (R) Fahad Masood, who himself used to be a Mirage pilot of PAF, His own home Sqd Cobras r the first ones to get J10CEs. So listen to him, he knows what he is talking abt.

-Conformed! that J10 series ARE ISRAELI LAVIs, this happened in 1988.

-Conformed! PL10e's HOBS capability with 90 deg. targeting angles same as Aim 9X

-a little correction, PAF j10s r known to carry ws10b not AL31. This interview i suppose was recorded BEFORE J10s hit the runways of Pak. As we all believed back then AL31 engines will be their powerplants.

-Conformed! PL15E is a dual pulse motor missile with speed to upto mach 4 not 3.

-Conformed! that with Delta-Canard design its turn rate capability is immensely improved(Thats why i specifically mentioned him being an experienced mirage pilot as he knows very well the Delta design's shortcomings)

-Conformed! The order of J10CE is of 36 for PAF not 25 as Indian media claimed and from there picked up by the west. 3 Sqns, 15 each in 2 sqns and a 3rd of 6 for CCS.

-Conformed! very low strings attached, And PAC Kamra will be responsible for its maintenance, overhaul and maybe future updates.

-Conformed! PAF through Shaheen Series exe. have flown J10s in Pakistan and China as well previously, (Hence i presume wasnt difficult to train our pilots, 24 pilots were certified trained on this type as of march when first 6 arrived and for tactics development as PAF is well aware of it through Shaheen series exe. This info was shared on the forum by a senior member)

Some more interesting and juicy info abt J10C, ie their Golden Canopies J20 style.

What a piece of crappy BS

Confirmed a copy of the Lavi! … after this comment, all credibility was lost.

 

[Bossman]

Why is this an accomplished „to Pakistan“? J-10s have this tinted canopy since years…




What a piece of crappy BS

Confirmed a copy of the Lavi! … after this comment, all credibility was lost.

It was derived from the Lavi. It’s not a secret

 

[Windjammer]

Another J-10C surprise.
Design feature of It's CFT revealed.

 

[Deino]

It was derived from the Lavi. It’s not a secret

No, it was not ... honestly, they share a similar configuration, CAc indeed had contacts and assistance (allegedly mostly on system integration and some say FBW-technology too, but both are structurally, size, powerplant and even in certain details so much different, that a B737 or the C919 shares more commonality to an A320, than these two. As such to call it a clone, a copy or even being "derived from the Lavi" is plain naive, IMO almost stupid.
Again, that does not want to deny contacts and influence, but it is surely not a derivate. If those two are derivates, than an apple is a derivate of an orange too!

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

PAF is set to receive the next batch of 8 to 10 units of J-10C 4.5+ Gen fighters from China in the next couple of weeks.

 

[Bossman]

No, it was not ... honestly, they share a similar configuration, CAc indeed had contacts and assistance (allegedly mostly on system integration and some say FBW-technology too, but both are structurally, size, powerplant and even in certain details so much different, that a B737 or the C919 shares more commonality to an A320, than these two. As such to call it a clone, a copy or even being "derived from the Lavi" is plain naive, IMO almost stupid.
Again, that does not want to deny contacts and influence, but it is surely not a derivate. If those two are derivates, than an apple is a derivate of an orange too!


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You are wrong. Go read the history of the plane. Lavi blue print were delivered to PRC. I said derived. Similar to A5 was derived from F6.

 

[Deino]

You are wrong. Go read the history of the plane. Lavi blue print were delivered to PRC. I said derived. Similar to A5 was derived from F6.

Is there proof that these plans were delivered and even if, why then does the J-10 look so much vastly more different to the Lavi than the Q-5 evolved from the J-6?
In fact I don not deny input, influence and contacts, but there is not a single part the same or alike in the way they were similar in Q-5 and J-6, they only share a similar configuration in the same way a B777 is similar to an A320, but you surely won‘t claim, a B777 is derived from an A320?

 

[SQ8]

Why is this an accomplished „to Pakistan“? J-10s have this tinted canopy since years…




What a piece of crappy BS

Confirmed a copy of the Lavi! … after this comment, all credibility was lost.

Some Pakistanis are under the impression it is some sort of game changing feature

 

[SQ8]

Is there proof that these plans were delivered and even if, why then does the J-10 look so much vastly more different to the Lavi than the Q-5 evolved from the J-6?
In fact I don not deny input, influence and contacts, but there is not a single part the same or alike in the way they were similar in Q-5 and J-6, they only share a similar configuration in the same way a B777 is similar to an A320, but you surely won‘t claim, a B777 is derived from an A320?

There is more than that - one could say how the Lavi itself had influences from the F-16.
But it isnt a Nesher to a Mirage V since the Chinese were thinking of a Canard configuration in the J-9. It is likely that refinements and design influences came from the IAI contacts in the 80s that resulted in the J-10.

Some Chinese refuse to believe that a PAF F-16 fuselage (allegedly the one struck by a boar) was carted off to China to be looked at for structural ideas.

But the J-10 is a “new “ aircraft in its overall design and not just a modification on the Lavi.

 

[Deino]

Another J-10C surprise.
Design feature of It's CFT revealed.

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I think I know the source of this surprising news!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1555097816518873088

 

[Windjammer]

 

[MastanKhan]

Why is this an accomplished „to Pakistan“? J-10s have this tinted canopy since years…




What a piece of crappy BS

Confirmed a copy of the Lavi! … after this comment, all credibility was lost.

Hi,

Big deal---" all credibility lost "---you really think that counts!

 

[Ali_Baba]

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Does anyone have the magazine? Are there any new pictures or information inside?

 

[Deino]

Hi,

Big deal---" all credibility lost "---you really think that counts!

Surely not on your count, but who gives a shit on your opinion anyway?
After you admitted, that you deliberately lie and post faked and false claims to „fool foreigners and enemies“ you too have no credibility at all here anymore, at least not by the honorable members. The ignorant fools and fan boys sure will follow you anywhere even if you „agree on all accounts“, that the Block 3 JF-17 uses an Italian engine and could fire AMRAAMs as you did some time ago.

So what?

 

[MastanKhan]

Surely not on your count, but who gives a shit on your opinion anyway?
After you admitted, that you deliberately lie and post faked and false claims to „fool foreigners and enemies“ you too have no credibility at all here anymore, at least not by the honorable members. The ignorant fools and fan boys sure will follow you anywhere even if you „agree on all accounts“, that the Block 3 JF-17 uses an Italian engine and could fire AMRAAMs as you did some time ago.

So what?

Hi,

A lots of people do.