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Nine Companies to Compete for Turkish Basic Trainers | Defense News | defensenews.com

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Turkey's planned 'screeners' will replace older SF 260 primary trainers assembled in the early 1990s under Italian license. (Finmeccanica)

ANKARA — Nine local and foreign companies have purchased competition dossiers from Turkey’s procurement agency, indicating their intention to bid on providing new basic trainer aircraft.

The Undersecretariat for Defense Industries (SSM) said Dec. 1 that likely bidders in the race are: Turkish companies GATE Elektronik San. ve Tic. A.S., Nurol Makin eve Sayani A.S., THK Uçak Imalat San.ve Tic. A.S. and Kocoglu Havacilik A.S.; Austria’s Diamond Aircraft Industries; Czech Republic’s ZLIN Aircraft; Germany’s Grob Aircraft; Pakistan’s Aeronautical Complex Board; and the US Discovery Aviation.

Last month, SSM opened new competition for the acquisition of 52 new basic trainer aircraft, also known as “screeners.” These aircraft will be used to determine whether a new graduate is fit to continue with flight training.

The planned screeners will replace an aging fleet of SF 260 primary trainers assembled in the early 1990s under Italian license by Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI).

Industry sources say the contract could be worth between $50 million and $75 million.

Recently, an indigenous basic trainer aircraft that Turkey designed and developed won an initial flight certificate from local authorities. Immediately after that, on Sept. 26, Turkey’s top body that oversees procurement decisions, the Defense Industry Executive Committee, approved serial production of the Hurkus, also developed by TAI.

Military officials say that by 2017 the Turkish trainer fleet will comprise the screeners Ankara intends to buy, KT-1 trainers supplied by Korean Aerospace Industries under a 2007 contract, the Hurkus, the upgraded T-38s (T-38Ts) and the F-16s. By 2025, the fleet will have the screeners, the Hurkus, an indigenous trainer to be designed and developed for the fighter jet Turkey intends to build, the TF-X and a combination of the F-16s, TF-Xs and the F-35s.
 
Pakistan and Turkey should develop K-8 further as a joint venture.
 
Pakistan and Turkey should develop K-8 further as a joint venture.
Pakistan should use this instead of Super Mashak and Turkey and Pakistan should join hands to either improve K-8 or develop new trainer which can carry lot of missiles so it can also give support to Army specially in anti terrorist and other operations
 
We buy T-129, they buy K-8. Win win situation for both countries.
 



Farhan, K-8 is more like an Intermediate Trainer and not Primary Trainer like Super Mashak.

@Aeronaut K-8 is already a joint venture between Pakistan and China ( Hongdu Aviation Industry Corporation and Pakistan Aernautical Complex) . I don't know why you think Pakistan can unilaterally bring in Turkey in this Project ?
 
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I meant that Turkey and Pakistan can use K-8 as a research vehicle to design a better trainer to fulfill future requirements. I don't think, China will object to it.
 
Getting the bidding document does not mean they are buying it.
 
Isn't Hürkuş basically built for this ?
 
Isn't Hürkuş basically built for this ?

hürkuş is basic trainer. this babies will be intermediate trainers. their cockpit are designed to simulate real fight jets' cockpits and are equipped to simulate modern weapons and their power plants enable high-energy manoeuvers. hürkuş speed is 570 km/h, while hongdu-8 (k-8) have 800 km/h speed and advanced trainer like t-38 talon has speed of of around 1.2 mach.
 
hürkuş is basic trainer. this babies will be intermediate trainers. their cockpit are designed to simulate real fight jets' cockpits and are equipped to simulate modern weapons and their power plants enable high-energy manoeuvers. hürkuş speed is 570 km/h, while hongdu-8 (k-8) have 800 km/h speed and advanced trainer like t-38 talon has speed of of around 1.2 mach.


So you think PAC would be pitching K-8?

K-8 is already an export success.

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no, i re-read article. it says the bid is for screeners. so, PAC'll go with super mushshak.

So do you think Super Mushak has a fighting chance in this ? :what:

And whom am I talking to - Jango or Boba ? :unsure:
 
Can Pakistanis civilians buy Mushshak or super Mushshak for personal use? And much does it cost?
 
For basic trainer it is super Mashak.
It stands a good chance, in the competition listed in OP.

Can Pakistanis civilians buy Mushshak or super Mushshak for personal use? And much does it cost?

Mashak's estimated cost is around 1.5 $million, but super Mashak is more expensive.
 
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