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It is here in PDF that I came to know so much about how India and RAW have installed a puppet Sarkar which bends over backwards to accommodate our every whim and fancy and how bangladeshis have amassed massive armies which will break the chicken neck and free Assam from the tyrannical Indian Rule and how the thousands of Bangladeshi rickshaw pullers, maids, daily wage laborers that I see in Delhi are actually aliens in disguise. Thank you PDF for enlightening me ;)

LOLZ! What a pathetic caste based country where poor people are even denied their existence from their own country.Most of my friends abroad told me how every neighborhood kinda hates the Indians for their weird wannabe attitude which just makes 'em another bunch of jokers.
 
LOLZ! What a pathetic caste based country where poor people are even denied their existence from their own country.Most of my friends abroad told me how every neighborhood kinda hates the Indians for their weird wannabe attitude which just makes 'em another bunch of jokers.

I guess you are right that many of our neighbors hate us. although we have done our best to accommodate them. There is nothing we can do to change the situation.
As an Indian, I would hope that we are liked in the neighborhood.
 
Bangladeshis in INdia:- rag pickers,beggars,ugly, people and cheap quality terrorists(high quality come from somewhere else)......I know that Bangladesh has some good citizens as well but thats the impression you guys hav in india

You serious, coming from an Indian?! :rofl: That's absolutely amusing to hear especially when it coming from a nation whose mocked for it's physical appearance, it's unfortunate that Pakistan doesn't border Bangladesh instead we have Indian as our Eastern neighbours whom we could use plenty of adjectives to describe the people who reside within it. The perception of Bengalis in Pakistan is absolutely different most see Bengalis as our brothers and should Bengalis ever decide to visit they would receive a warm welcome by the people residing in Pakistan.
 
Ahh Sami...we got our Supreme court..the most powerful court of the country talking about illegal immigration from Bangladesh..so it can't be false ;)
We are helping you people by providing jobs...:)
Accept it...the underdeveloped,poor, Indians are helping the super developed/rich Bangladeshis
 
Its a wonder that there are more indian members than any nationalities in pdf
It is more bizare that even after that they make duplicate identities,
so sad.
 
Ahh Sami...we got our Supreme court..the most powerful court of the country talking about illegal immigration from Bangladesh..so it can't be false ;)
We are helping you people by providing jobs...:)
Accept it...the underdeveloped,poor, Indians are helping the super developed/rich Bangladeshis

Dude what your supreme court or your politician says is irrelevant to us. How we see the whole matter is that India categorically labelling every bengali speaking poor Muslim as illegal as means of ethnic cleansing. They are afraid of loosing the Hindu majority status in near future.
No matter how louder you cry, our border is closed for any more muslim from India. You have to live with ever increasing muslim population in India and get used to it. May be some day they will introduce sharia laws in India, to smoothing some Hindu fanatics like Mudi bal and .....
 
Ahh Sami...we got our Supreme court..the most powerful court of the country talking about illegal immigration from Bangladesh..so it can't be false ;)
We are helping you people by providing jobs...:)
Accept it...the underdeveloped,poor, Indians are helping the super developed/rich Bangladeshis

Keep your crap with you... This bhartis has a very big mouth ...the country where 10% people are unemployed twice the rate of bangladesh, crap in open air due to not having proper sanitation system, has 1/3 of the poor people of earth , 77% of the people live with less then .5 dollar a day where as people with 1.25 dollar or less in bangladesh is 30%... talks about giving employment... n that is the job of cheap labor.. all these bhartis are bigot and thats why buy all the propaganda from the radical hindu extremist politicians and vote them...your ranting and discrimination on minority has been exposed to the world...before saying illegal bangladeshi... just go and abolish and kicked the butt of every useless and worthless BSF.. who failed to stop the so called 20 million bangladeshi those who according to the radical extremist politicians like modi came illegally to India under the nose of these bsf. Keep your wet dream propaganda with you and try to live with the fact that bengali muslims are about to be majority in assam. N you will have to live with that.
 
Assam: Alienating the Natives
Posted by IMO admin Featured, Indian States, Latest News 4/06/2011 09:55:00 AM

By Ram Puniyani

Assam+Muslims1.jpg


In the recently concluded assembly elections in Assam (March-April 2011), one of the issues which was whipped up by BJP was about the Bengali speaking people especially the Muslims of Assam. Most of the Bengali speaking Muslims are projected to be from Bangla Desh, and the communal parties and groups are using this myth to enhance their political capital, which is mostly based on spreading hate against minorities and bringing to fore the issues related to identity. In different parts of India also, the issue of Bengali Muslims has been raised too often. The Bengali speaking Muslims, Bangladeshis and also those from West Bengal, are projected to be Bangladeshis, and are presented to be threat to security. This point was raised time and over again in the acts of terror committed in recent years by the gang of Sadhvi Prgaya Singh Thakur to Aseemanand types belonging to Abhinav Bharat, Sanatan Sansthan etc. Many a time Bangladeshi groups were named in these acts of terror done by Hindutva groups and their connection with local Bangladeshis was propagated to the hilt. In Assam the issue of Bengali speaking Muslims has been brought up time and over again and this point has also been used at the time of elections to polarize the communities along religious lines.

On the contrary, many a Muslims, especially Bengali speaking one’s, irrespective of their prolonged stay in Assam, have been labeled as D voters, i.e. Doubtful voters and are not allowed to vote. The mechanism to prove that you are a bona- fide citizen lies on these hapless poor, who have been waiting for years to get this D category removed from their names. BJP has been arguing that Congress is shifting the Bangladeshis to the areas where they need to increase their voting percentage. One recalls that a massive anti Muslim pogrom was unleashed in Nellie in 1983. That time a tribe was instigated to massacre the Muslims on the ground that Bangladeshis have voted in the election and nearly 5000 Muslims were done to death. This issue of ‘Bangladeshi Muslims’ has also been electorally encashed by All Assam Students Union, which has been infiltrated and supported by RSS.

As such the issue of Bengali speaking Muslims has been very vexed and has a long history. Once the British annexed Assam in 1826, they saw this area as a potential one where the neighboring overpopulated Bengali people can be planted. They started a ‘Human Plantation program’, as per which the Bengalis, who were having land pressure and crowding in undivided Bengal, were encouraged to come to Assam and a large number of those who came to Assam were Muslims from Bengal. They worked hard to develop the land and agriculture in Assam. They were hard working and contributed massively to the development of Assam.

The issue became complicated with partition of India by the British. With partition tragedy many Hindus migrated to neighboring states. Later during the repression of East Pakistan by Pakistani army many a people fled East Pakistan and some of them did come to Assam. Most of these were Hindus. The process had other side also with the rise of communal politics in Assam, nearly 6 lakh Assamese, Muslims, also migrated to Bangla Desh.

In other parts of India also many a people from Bangla Desh migrated mainly due to economic reasons. In Mumbai and Delhi communalists raised the bogey of Bangladeshis as a security threat. Citizen’s inquiry committees, comprising of noted Human rights activists investigated the issue of Bangladeshi ‘threat’ in Mumbai in particular. One such investigation done by Shama Dalvai and Irfan Engineer pointed out that the number of Bangladeshis, which is claimed to be 3 Lakhs in Mumbai holds no water. As such it is difficult to estimate their number but rough estimate can go to 20000 of them in Mumbai. Most of these Bangladeshis are involved in painstaking Zari embroidery work and their women folk work as house maids, at atrociously low wages. Their living conditions are cramped, near gutters and in outskirts of suburbs. Most of their time is spent in making the two ends meet with great amount of difficulty.

Similar is the situation in the other metros, especially Delhi, where also the communalists have tried to use this phenomenon to their political advantage. One does observe that migrations, legal and illegal, to supposedly ‘greener pastures’ is the trend amongst the poor and those trying to climb the social ladders to higher levels. In India itself we see innumerable people from Nepal and many a Tibetans have been given asylum. We also observe that many an Indians had migrated to Sri Lanka, Singapore, Malaysia, Canada, US and UK in particular. The migration to later two countries is a dream for many. The idea behind such migrations is purely social and economic, to overcome the misery and deprivation or to latch on to upwardly mobile channel.

Tragically this issue has been used for the politics of communal divide. In Assam the British did pursue the policy of divide and rule, as in other places in Assam also they tried to put Hindus against Muslims. With the Human plantation program in 19th Century, the local Assamese were not very happy, and British encouraging Hindu camp versus Muslim camp added to the problem. Later British also tried to draw the physical ‘Line System’ trying to make people settle in separate localities according to their religion. This added to the worsening of the problem of inter religious community divide. Added on to this there is a geographical aspect adding to the problem. The mighty river Brahmaputra keeps changing its course too often. Those settled on the banks have to leave their home and hearth looking for new place for survival. Those displaced are generally amongst the poor and that adds to the issue, they are mostly labeled as Bangladeshi immigrants.

There is an urgent need to look into the communal issue in Assam. The D voter system is contributing to massive dissatisfaction amongst the people. It is also a very poor state, needing to be put on the rails of development. Such irritants created by historical circumstances and geographical compulsions are used for political gains by some. We need to bring in affirmative action to cultivate the spirit of fraternity amongst all the people of Assam; we need to counter the false propaganda about religious communalists to cultivate the sense of inclusive society all over to ensure that the path for progress and struggle for human rights is pursued relentlessly.

[Ram Puniyani is a Professor in Biomedical Engineering at the Indian Institute of Technology, Powai. Apart from his teaching and research activities, he pursues a parallel track concerned with issues related to social problems, and is a strong advocate of human rights. He can be contacted at ram.puniyani@gmail.com]
 
The article which said roughly 20000 bangladeshi who live in mumbai are mostly the hindus of bangladesh who migrated to India but faced the reality of super poor life in India... if they would have been in bangladesh they might have lived a better life in India...still in there are many dirty and areas where people die out of hunger, farmers commit suicide for not paying debt but this sort of thing no one will see in bangladesh... This big mouth indians should come out of wet dream like bangladeshis are going to India for better life... when indians are illegally migrating all over the world and when it has very few opportunity for the poor people.
 
yeah any bangladeshi who is neutral to india pakistan after exploring this forum as a guest will obviously turn into india hater!! This is why 100% of bangladeshi pk forum users bash india. .. . But we should avoid it. . . should have constructive discussions. . . Leaving this mud throwing. . . .

I get your point, but dishing it out is more fun !!
 
The Telegraph - Calcutta (Kolkata) | Bengal | Fenced in: population growth rate

Abhirup Sarkar, professor of economics at the Indian Statistical Institute (Calcutta), said the influx from Bangladesh had also decreased because that country’s economic growth was higher in comparison with Bengal.

“Opportunities have grown in Bangladesh, but they have vastly shrunk in our state over the past couple of decades. Bengal is not as lucrative as it used to be for Bangladeshi nationals. The resultant reduction in in-migration should also be accounted for,” Sarkar said.

Demographers said lower natural growth of population — decrease in birth rate — in Bangladesh was also a reason for the reduction in migration.

“Over the past two decades, Bangladesh has had a much lower rate of natural growth — barely 2 to 2.5 per cent,” said Sammy. “This has an immediate bearing on the population of Bangladesh and a cascading impact on the number of illegal migrants to Bengal.”



Thanks to professor Abhirup Sarkar for exposing the real truth that bengal of India is not that much lucrative then bangladesh that we the bangladeshi members were saying for moths... But despite this bharti members full with ego and having no idea baout current reality kept on dreaming and barking all the time without having true picture of their society and specially the poor people.

It is true in India certain number of people has become super rich and there is also a good number of middle income people boom but majority of the people are dirt poor and struggle daily even to manage daily foods... thats why 77% of the people live with less then 20 rs per day.
 
Assam: Alienating the Natives
Posted by IMO admin Featured, Indian States, Latest News 4/06/2011 09:55:00 AM

By Ram Puniyani

Assam+Muslims1.jpg


In the recently concluded assembly elections in Assam (March-April 2011), one of the issues which was whipped up by BJP was about the Bengali speaking people especially the Muslims of Assam. Most of the Bengali speaking Muslims are projected to be from Bangla Desh, and the communal parties and groups are using this myth to enhance their political capital, which is mostly based on spreading hate against minorities and bringing to fore the issues related to identity. In different parts of India also, the issue of Bengali Muslims has been raised too often. The Bengali speaking Muslims, Bangladeshis and also those from West Bengal, are projected to be Bangladeshis, and are presented to be threat to security. This point was raised time and over again in the acts of terror committed in recent years by the gang of Sadhvi Prgaya Singh Thakur to Aseemanand types belonging to Abhinav Bharat, Sanatan Sansthan etc. Many a time Bangladeshi groups were named in these acts of terror done by Hindutva groups and their connection with local Bangladeshis was propagated to the hilt. In Assam the issue of Bengali speaking Muslims has been brought up time and over again and this point has also been used at the time of elections to polarize the communities along religious lines.

On the contrary, many a Muslims, especially Bengali speaking one’s, irrespective of their prolonged stay in Assam, have been labeled as D voters, i.e. Doubtful voters and are not allowed to vote. The mechanism to prove that you are a bona- fide citizen lies on these hapless poor, who have been waiting for years to get this D category removed from their names. BJP has been arguing that Congress is shifting the Bangladeshis to the areas where they need to increase their voting percentage. One recalls that a massive anti Muslim pogrom was unleashed in Nellie in 1983. That time a tribe was instigated to massacre the Muslims on the ground that Bangladeshis have voted in the election and nearly 5000 Muslims were done to death. This issue of ‘Bangladeshi Muslims’ has also been electorally encashed by All Assam Students Union, which has been infiltrated and supported by RSS.

As such the issue of Bengali speaking Muslims has been very vexed and has a long history. Once the British annexed Assam in 1826, they saw this area as a potential one where the neighboring overpopulated Bengali people can be planted. They started a ‘Human Plantation program’, as per which the Bengalis, who were having land pressure and crowding in undivided Bengal, were encouraged to come to Assam and a large number of those who came to Assam were Muslims from Bengal. They worked hard to develop the land and agriculture in Assam. They were hard working and contributed massively to the development of Assam.

The issue became complicated with partition of India by the British. With partition tragedy many Hindus migrated to neighboring states. Later during the repression of East Pakistan by Pakistani army many a people fled East Pakistan and some of them did come to Assam. Most of these were Hindus. The process had other side also with the rise of communal politics in Assam, nearly 6 lakh Assamese, Muslims, also migrated to Bangla Desh.

In other parts of India also many a people from Bangla Desh migrated mainly due to economic reasons. In Mumbai and Delhi communalists raised the bogey of Bangladeshis as a security threat. Citizen’s inquiry committees, comprising of noted Human rights activists investigated the issue of Bangladeshi ‘threat’ in Mumbai in particular. One such investigation done by Shama Dalvai and Irfan Engineer pointed out that the number of Bangladeshis, which is claimed to be 3 Lakhs in Mumbai holds no water. As such it is difficult to estimate their number but rough estimate can go to 20000 of them in Mumbai. Most of these Bangladeshis are involved in painstaking Zari embroidery work and their women folk work as house maids, at atrociously low wages. Their living conditions are cramped, near gutters and in outskirts of suburbs. Most of their time is spent in making the two ends meet with great amount of difficulty.

Similar is the situation in the other metros, especially Delhi, where also the communalists have tried to use this phenomenon to their political advantage. One does observe that migrations, legal and illegal, to supposedly ‘greener pastures’ is the trend amongst the poor and those trying to climb the social ladders to higher levels. In India itself we see innumerable people from Nepal and many a Tibetans have been given asylum. We also observe that many an Indians had migrated to Sri Lanka, Singapore, Malaysia, Canada, US and UK in particular. The migration to later two countries is a dream for many. The idea behind such migrations is purely social and economic, to overcome the misery and deprivation or to latch on to upwardly mobile channel.

Tragically this issue has been used for the politics of communal divide. In Assam the British did pursue the policy of divide and rule, as in other places in Assam also they tried to put Hindus against Muslims. With the Human plantation program in 19th Century, the local Assamese were not very happy, and British encouraging Hindu camp versus Muslim camp added to the problem. Later British also tried to draw the physical ‘Line System’ trying to make people settle in separate localities according to their religion. This added to the worsening of the problem of inter religious community divide. Added on to this there is a geographical aspect adding to the problem. The mighty river Brahmaputra keeps changing its course too often. Those settled on the banks have to leave their home and hearth looking for new place for survival. Those displaced are generally amongst the poor and that adds to the issue, they are mostly labeled as Bangladeshi immigrants.

There is an urgent need to look into the communal issue in Assam. The D voter system is contributing to massive dissatisfaction amongst the people. It is also a very poor state, needing to be put on the rails of development. Such irritants created by historical circumstances and geographical compulsions are used for political gains by some. We need to bring in affirmative action to cultivate the spirit of fraternity amongst all the people of Assam; we need to counter the false propaganda about religious communalists to cultivate the sense of inclusive society all over to ensure that the path for progress and struggle for human rights is pursued relentlessly.

[Ram Puniyani is a Professor in Biomedical Engineering at the Indian Institute of Technology, Powai. Apart from his teaching and research activities, he pursues a parallel track concerned with issues related to social problems, and is a strong advocate of human rights. He can be contacted at ram.puniyani@gmail.com]

Great article Sami.
In line with reality. The D voter system is a violation of basic rights. Just because you are Muslim you can be accused of that. Incredible India !!
 
Great article Sami.
In line with reality. The D voter system is a violation of basic rights. Just because you are Muslim you can be accused of that. Incredible India !!

I just post that to show the bhartis their reality and so that they come out of their wet dream of super rich develop India in every sector... to back up my point I have also posted what professor Abhirup Sarkar said and that Bangladesh is having more growth then bengal where in contrast growth prospect has decreased. But these foolish bhartis will not stop their trolling... n their wet dream claim like bangladeshis are going to india illegally to be a cheap labor when even bangladesh is facing labor shortage and FBCCI chairman was concern about that.
 
Keep your crap with you... This bhartis has a very big mouth ...the country where 10% people are unemployed twice the rate of bangladesh, crap in open air due to not having proper sanitation system, has 1/3 of the poor people of earth , 77% of the people live with less then .5 dollar a day where as people with 1.25 dollar or less in bangladesh is 30%... talks about giving employment... n that is the job of cheap labor.. all these bhartis are bigot and thats why buy all the propaganda from the radical hindu extremist politicians and vote them...your ranting and discrimination on minority has been exposed to the world...before saying illegal bangladeshi... just go and abolish and kicked the butt of every useless and worthless BSF.. who failed to stop the so called 20 million bangladeshi those who according to the radical extremist politicians like modi came illegally to India under the nose of these bsf. Keep your wet dream propaganda with you and try to live with the fact that bengali muslims are about to be majority in assam. N you will have to live with that.

From the nonsense in your post, it would almost seem like our poor should be reverse migrating to the land of opportunity and wealth that is BD.....

I mean it is for us all to see how BD is the shining beacon of a modern progressive western style state that has the highest per capita income, free healthcare and top notch economy.....

But thats not true is it?
And whats worse is that your people choose to leave your glorious country to come willingly live in the a**hole of South Asia that is India....even risking their lives to do so....

Hmmm....makes me wonder....Are Bangladeshi people really that stupid?

Maybe the problem is that we are using you as a Benchmark....
 
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