MBS visit to the US will last 2 weeks

[mike2000 is back]

I really don't understand these guys, they talk about how they "hate" the Christian west and how we are the epitome of evil and hedonism, yet given the chance, their "leaders" can't wait to cozy up to the west and their citizens are clamoring over each other to get to our shores and adopt our evil "western"ways. It's a MAD, MAD world I tells ya!

I think some of them are abit confused. They admire our living standards, development, rule of law, technological advancement, good governance, stable democratic system etc and would love to achieve all this, but at the same time they despise our dominance of world affairs. So it's a tricky one(which is understandable).

At the end of the day, they are like all human beings, humans always seek a better life for them and their family, religion (and everything else) comes second(except for Islamic fanatics Al Qaeda types who are ready to forgo their family/comfort and even die on the spot for their religious cause ).

So it's normal that many in the region are ready to risk it all to emigrate to non Islamic kafir land of Europe, U. S, AUSTRALIA etc . Normal human instincts to seek for greener pastures .
However, you shouldn't take what many say on here too seriously. Most of the times, it's just comments with no real substance, and a way of feeling better by letting others know their country is fighting only for the 'sake of Islam' and for weak muslim countries. Its a question of ego and feel good as well. At the end of the day we all know that's nonsense, each country in the region is looking after their own interests and cooperates with the 'evil West when it suits them.

 

[Wolfhunter]

I think some of them are sbiya confused. They admire our living standard, development, rule of law, technological advancement, etc and would love to achieve all this, but at the same time they despise our dominance of world affairs. Its a tricky one.
At the end of the day, they are like all human beings, humans always seek a better life for them and their family, religion (and everything else) comes second(except for Islamic fanatics Al Qaeda types who are ready to forgo their family/comfort and even die on the spot for their religious cause ).

So it's normal that many in the region are ready to risk it all to emigrate to non Islamic kafir land of Europe, U. S, AUSTRALIA etc . Normal human instincts to seek for greener pastures .

Beautifully said!

 

[Ceylal]

Problem with the West is that along with them their proxy scums are getting even more dumber!!! Anyway, their days are highly numbered. The 100 years old curse being slowly lifted as the Muslims in the region are progressively returning to their senses. Afrin etc. are just the beginning!!!! No Firauns, Nemruts, Ebu Jahils, Ebu Lahaps, Sherif Husseins, Mujibs etc. are enough to stop this Sefer for it's all per the DESIGN....

Among the proxies, where does Turkey fit?

Can someone ban this majoos troll mohammed45 it is even Haram to call him mohammad

JKangoroo, you are sounding like the eternal student.., are you?

 

[Falcon29]

I really don't understand these guys, they talk about how they "hate" the Christian west and how we are the epitome of evil and hedonism, yet given the chance, their "leaders" can't wait to cozy up to the west and their citizens are clamoring over each other to get to our shores and adopt our evil "western"ways. It's a MAD, MAD world I tells ya!

I don't see Christianity mentioned in his post, he is likely a secular Turk born in US and naturally admires his country of origin. That country having alliances with numerous powerful nations in the West. They have differences in regards to Syria. Other than that, it's just middle eastern politics, making that the West is out to undermine you seems to be common political ploy among Middle Easterners. In reality most that way are actually secular nationalists. So I don't see why you drag Christianity into it.

I think some of them are abit confused. They admire our living standards, development, rule of law, technological advancement, good governance, stable democratic system etc and would love to achieve all this, but at the same time they despise our dominance of world affairs. So it's a tricky one(which is understandable).

When you go on a tangent about 'them' it suggests you who are ranting about something else which is off topic. There was one member in this thread who you should have addressed and end it there. Look above in my response to Wolf. Also you are aware many modern nations are relatively developed and technologically advanced, aren't you? That is not exclusive to the West. As for Middle easterners, its common sense they would prefer to dominate their own region rather than others. And like in Europe where not too long there huge divisions leading to numerous wars and two world wars, different nationalities are competing over dominance among themselves too. So we can agree the world is not black and white. For the most part US/Europe's policies are positive for the people of the Middle East, with obvious exceptions being the I/P conflict and Iraq war. Besides those blunders you are right it would be hypocritical of people from that background to suggest they are in conflict with the West. It only does a disservice to their own people, whom they utilize that ploy against. And religion rarely plays a role. Most people you talk to are secular.

You should also understand those people had great civilizations at a time, preceding yours. You should also understand that you are British and not American. The American society is different and people coexist here well. America has its interests in Europe and we are not 100% with you guys in Europe. We take upon us the brunt of the effort to counter Russian influence there. So yeah, seems like you need some reality checks man.

 

[The SC]

Confirmed:

1- 7 batteries of THAAD and addition to be the first long-range air defense system

2- 6-8 Poseidon P-8 aircraft are capable of adding to the Saudi Navy and strengthening its capabilities against submarines and surface ships, it is the first patrol aircraft, anti-submarines and anti-ships to join the Saudi Navy
3. Surveillance balloons from Lockheed Martins to strengthen the monitoring and reconnaissance capabilities of the Saudi armed forces

4- 8 Chinook with the approval of the sale of 48 the first heavy helicopter to join the Saudi forces and enhances the capabilities of the ground forces in its deployment or transport or supply operations

5 - 23 Hercules C-130j aircrafts, 3 Tankers and 20 c-130j, which enhances the capabilities of deployment of the Saudi Air Force

6 - 4 frigates with a future purchase option of 4 more frigates

7- Modernization of the ground systems and raising the capacity to a total of 500 Abrams and 400 Bradley

8 - Provide the Air Force with a wide range of medium-range munitions to serve its military operations

The deal added new capabilities to Saudi forces and changed the balance of power:
Saudi air defense forces have been reinforced with 7 LR THAAD batteries
The Saudi navy was boosted by 4 frigates and 6 Poseidon aircrafts
Saudi Arabia's land forces has been enhanced with modernization and Chinook helicopters
Saudi Arabia Air forces are reinforced by 20 Hercules and 3 Tankers and a wide range of ammunition


A very great deal because:

1 - A long distance air defense that Saudi Arabia did not have before and now it has
2 - Saudi Arabia did not have Heavy helicopters before and now it has these capabilities
3 - Saudi Arabia did not have a Naval patrol aircraft with anti-submarines, surface ships and land targets..now it has these capabilities
4 - Aerostats with surveillance radar, Intelligence gathering and early warning are also new
capabilities

This is very characteristic of this deal, since it adds capabilities KSA did not previously owned..

All these systems are being currently made..with deliveries in/within 3 years..

 

[The SC]

Saudi Arabia just got $3.5 billion rebate on 7 THAAD batteries.. with each battery having 9 launchers and each launcher have 8 missiles

 

[The SC]

BREAKING: Trump administration approves $1 billion arms sale to Saudi Arabia, including more than 6,500 TOW 2B missiles..


Saudi Energy Minister: We have other options if Washington abandons nuclear cooperation agreement


US Energy Secretary: We must cooperate with the Kingdom in building its nuclear reactors


Bloomberg Technology: Saudi meetings with Amazon, Apple and Google to complete several deals



After agreements with Northrop Gruman, Raytheon and Allen.

The decision of His Excellency Saud bin Abdullah Al-Qahtani, Chairman of the Board of Directors of the University of Saudi Arabia for the establishment of a college specialized in cybersecurity, programming and artificial intelligence, the College will design educational programs for youth, and Dr. Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz Al Dahlawi as Dean of the College.

1- The College will focus on the design of quality and approved educational and training programs to cover the acute shortage of labor market needs in cybersecurity, programming and artificial intelligence.

2- The college will also offer educational programs, including various stages of higher education, to attract the largest number of age groups and university graduates.

 

[The SC]

Crown Prince # Mohammed_Bin_Salman meets with the heads of #Boeing, #Raytheon, #LockheedMartin, and #GeneralDynamics to discuss joint investment opportunities, transfer of military technologies and localization of industries in Saudi Arabia.

https://twitter.com/x/status/976679795810603014

 

[The SC]

His Royal Highness Prince Mohammed bin Salman bin Abdul Aziz, Crown Prince and Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Defense, confirmed that US President Donald Trump's decision to move the US embassy to Jerusalem was "painful".

In his interview with the Washington Post, the Crown Prince stressed that Islam is rational and simple and some are trying to kidnap it, declaring that the kingdom owns 5% of the world's uranium reserves, and not using it, is like not using our oil..

"We do not use Kuchner to promote the kingdom in the United States," he said.

 

[The SC]

http://www.arabnews.com/node/1271891/world#.WrR0dsu2NPQ.twitter

#Saudi intelligence sharing ‘has saved American lives,’ former Homeland Security adviser @FranTownsend tells @arabnews

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Four agreements were signed between the MIT Institute, Aramco, SABIC, King Abdullah University of Science and Technology (KAUST) and King Abdulaziz City for Science and Technology (KACST)..

There will be collaboration between the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) and King Abdullah University (KAUST) in the development of the Future City of Neom. There will also be a joint collaboration between the Institute, the University and King Abdulaziz City (KACST) in research and student scholarships, the collaboration of the MIT with King Abdulaziz City has been going on for a long time; One of the fruits of this cooperation was the establishment of the Center for Excellence in Complex Engineering Systems (CCES), and cooperation here will result in a significant improvement in the Saudis' ability to analyze, design and manage complex engineering systems.

 

[The SC]

The Investment Authority signs a memorandum of understanding with the US company AMGeneral to establish a factory for military and civil vehicles in Saudi Arabia..

 

[The SC]

Saudi Crown Prince discusses investment opportunities with "Softbank"

Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman bin Abdulaziz met on Monday with the CEO of Soft Bank Masayoshi Son in New York City.

During the meeting, a number of investment opportunities were discussed.

The Crown Prince also met a number of CEOs and directors of major US companies in which Vision Softbank invested.

During the meeting, the joint investment areas were reviewed in the framework of "Vision Softbank".

https://aawsat.com/home/article/1217871/ولي-العهد-السعودي-يبحث-الفرص-الاستثمارية-مع-«سوفت-بنك»

 

[LeGenD]

You should avoid such language mate. Our political differences apart. Poor MBS is doing what he thinks is good for his country and survival though we know that he is mistaken and will pay for it in his life and hereafter.

Sorry?

MBS is a visionary leader, and he will propel Saudi Arabia to new heights of prosperity in the near future - a reality that Saudi-bashers are finding impossible to stomach.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

Saudi Crown Prince discusses investment opportunities with "Softbank"

Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman bin Abdulaziz met on Monday with the CEO of Soft Bank Masayoshi Son in New York City.

During the meeting, a number of investment opportunities were discussed.

The Crown Prince also met a number of CEOs and directors of major US companies in which Vision Softbank invested.

During the meeting, the joint investment areas were reviewed in the framework of "Vision Softbank".

https://aawsat.com/home/article/1217871/ولي-العهد-السعودي-يبحث-الفرص-الاستثمارية-مع-«سوفت-بنك»

LOL seeing him for the first time in suit

 

[war&peace]

Sorry

Accepted..No problem mate