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MBS visit to the US will last 2 weeks

He needs to modernize his country, education is very important for a country's survival, ability to adapt to change and innovate. Cleary he is setting stepping stones for this transition to occur. We will not see the results of it until decades. That isn't a problem, you gotta start somewhere. At the same time be careful from rushing it as traditional people without modern education/qualifications are used to traditional means of attaining income and pushing them out of workforce will do no good.

As far as Islam, religious establishment has been powerful in Saudi Arabia for awhile. They do not have solutions for diversifying the economy or adapting to modern life by introducing moderate means of following Islam. They are too traditional and focus on knowledge more than other things which disinterests younger generation. Part of focus on knowledge is to counter Shia misinformation on Sunni Muslims sect and beliefs. So they still consider that important and will focus on that. Saudi Arabia will bring some entertainment into their country but it is still relatively conservative.

Some Muslims and some locals within KSA are upset at the cultural reform. The problem is younger and older segments of population approach Islam differently. Younger are more philosophical and don't like traditionalist approach. Older segment are more cultural and prefer traditionalist approach. Ultimately the younger generation needs to strike the balance. At the same time it's not like their priority is to implement Islam perfectly. So I remain confused as to many Muslims frustrated thinking we are going on wrong path because of MBS, even though he has no involvement in that. It's the general Muslim community who have been on wrong path for awhile and it's not dependent on him. He is a leader for his country and is no Caliph.
They should have started in the 70s before the so called sahwa also their welcoming of the ikhwan who fled nassers rule they together with the saudi clergy became the Islamization force in the kingdom
 
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And later these Desert Fighters bang your ISIS breeding women in Syria and Iraq.

Congratulations... if that makes you proud.
Keep banging who so ever you identify in majlis as Isis, Yazid and their siblings.
As far getting personal is concerned... you tribe keep doing it with different IDs and i understand this administrative strategy.
 
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Congratulations... if that makes you proud.
Keep banging who so ever you identify in majlis as Isis, Yazid and their siblings.

At least I can identify that you're some pure Yazidi breed.
 
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Can someone ban this majoos troll mohammed45 it is even Haram to call him mohammad
 
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It basically means "a gathering". But here he means Majlis "a religious gathering held to mourn for the Martyrs of Karbalah". Basically targeting Shias. Ignore this sectarian mofo.
Are you a shiite
 
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Hate class, held in evening.
40% of Pakistani population attend such class.
This is where desert fighter types are born.
Wow, mate ..40% and still I never heard about it..how come?
Can you please share some links, pics etc.?

Brieingf story of 2 week meetings, Iran Iran Iran. That's all, MBS will offer Trump his own mama asking big daddy to save his as*. From the imaginary Iranian threat
You should avoid such language mate. Our political differences apart. Poor MBS is doing what he thinks is good for his country and survival though we know that he is mistaken and will pay for it in his life and hereafter.
 
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Sanctions on Friendship with US were lifted shortly... when Barak Hussein Obama was president. After his departure, sanctions were back on.
You obviously are bit too late with friendship initiative.
About whom are you talking? Saudi Arabia or Pakistan.. because you answer is not clear
Obama had his own agenda for the ME.. and it was not in favor of the Arab world.. that is why he was snubbed till the end of his mandate..and things were corrected..
Trump only wants the best for his country..like every leader of any country should.. So it is a matter of interests.. if you bring a win/win situation to the US it will respond positively..Actually KSA is the oldest friend of the US in the ME.. nothing new.. Presidents change and things come back to their natural course.. there is no too late in this matter..
I don't understand all this anger against Saudi Arabia or Arabs in general..Indonesia and Malaysia are closer to the US than most other Muslim countries, but no one criticises that..

You should avoid such language mate. Our political differences apart. Poor MBS is doing what he thinks is good for his country and survival though we know that he is mistaken and will pay for it in his life and hereafter.
Can you clarify the highlighted part.. Why do you thing he is mistaken..because it contradicts you saying that he is trying to better his country..
 
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About whom are you talking? Saudi Arabia or Pakistan.. because you answer is not clear
Obama had his own agenda for the ME.. and it was not in favor of the Arab world.. that is why he was snubbed till the end of his mandate..and things were corrected..
Trump only wants the best for his country..like every leader of any country should.. So it is a matter of interests.. if you bring a win/win situation to the US it will respond positively..
I don't understand all this anger against Saudi Arabia or Arabs in general..Indonesia and Malaysia are closer to the US than most other Muslim countries, but no one criticises that..

I was being sarcastic with those who were criticizing state visit of MBS and his meeting with Trump, while same bunch cheered Obama's anti Arab stance, who as well... consequently received cold shoulder from Arab world.

Not you but, I fully understand the groundless anger against Saudi Arabia among majority Pakistani members of this forum.
Everyday they sleep in a hope that until morning Saudi oil will evaporate and worst.
I enjoy threads, which put water on their dreaming heads, delivering them another sleep in pain, where they again dream of waking up to the news of destruction of Saudi Arabia.
 
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Wow, mate ..40% and still I never heard about it..how come?
Can you please share some links, pics etc.?

Use google and search for genocide mafia !

Well Mohammad bin Salman thinks he doing what is good for his country. So why are people getting upset?

People were upset because, one by one.... they are loosing those bushes which they used to beat around.
MBS is leaving no bushes remaining to be beaten about.
He started from economic reforms, ending up with social reforms.
 
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Can you clarify the highlighted part.. Why do you thing he is mistaken..because it contradicts you saying that he is trying to better his country..
I said he thinks what he is doing is good for his country. But he is shaking hands with the enemies of Islam and Muslim who is enemy of Arabs as well. But these regimes were installed by them so he is just bowing before his master.
 
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Use google and search for genocide mafia !



People were upset because, one by one.... they are loosing those bushes which they used to beat around.
MBS is leaving no bushes remaining to be beaten about.
He started from economic reforms, ending up with social reforms.
These morally and financially Shaikhs who own casinos, bar, night clubs and banks in Las Vegas, pretend to the leaders of Muslims and Arabs while they their legs are shivering that their people may throw them into the gulf. Arab Spring...that word scares crap out of them :lol:
 
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