JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

[karan.1970]

Source for this claim?

Read it somewhere on this forum only that Block II will have a Chinese Engine..

 

[karan.1970]

Pakistan may yet be a partner in the development of the missile, I guess we will have to wait to find out....unlike India whose partnership was limited to partial 'funding' of the development of Brahmos!

Yeah! Just like India may have been a partner in the development of Rafale, or even Apache Block III. After all we will have to wait to find that out just like this case

and about funding, well, do not let your jealousy cloud even your basic intellect





Had that been the case, why were 100+ engines purchased? At a ratio of 2:1 (3 Operational & 1 backup) it gives us how many jets?



Ah....an older gen technology for an even older A/C Carrier......perfect [/QUOTE]

 

[SBD-3]

plaaf can at least replace their a5 with jf 17.
and the production of a5 attacker should be stopped long time ago..but they just closed the a 5 production line since last month...

and in my view it is important that plaaf to buy some jf 17. it is very important if we want to export jf 17.

I dont think so it would have any significant impact. No body would buy a plane merely based on who is operating it. Every airforce places whatsoever possible effort in evaluating the platform. With the promise offered by JFT and the depth of capabilities it offers, No wonder it can fit in most of the roles at fraction of the cost. If it has exceeded PAF's requirements, it can also match and exceed other airforce's requirements as well. Of course political influence is also another major factor but given AVIC has an active interest in promoting JFT, I see direct political support from China.

 

[Alfa-Fighter]

iron dome is not that good as you think.
most hamas missile are hand made missiles,
hamas are very poor. they just buy some chinese seamless steel tube, and build some poor rocket.

very low speed ,very low rang, very poor accuracy

off topic we do calculated the price of this kind of hamas rocket. it is no more than 200USD.
and a Iron dome missile ist far far expensive. even if hamas has enough this kind of poor rocket.
they can make israel bankrupt

This is what technology is , intercepting a rocket is not a easy task , no one in the world able to done that.

 

[Windjammer]

I don't understand. It says FC-1 can take this weapon on board. But has Pakistan purchased it ?

FC-1 aka, Fighter China-1 is the Chinese designation for JF-17. !!

 

[Manticore]

Guys , i've updated the first page of info pool a bit -- let me know if some more addition is needed -- please dont post every pic you find in the info pool -- we have 2 threads where you should post this stuff and keep it upgraded .. i wont be able to due to personal reasons

paf airshow videos --- its in pak mil aviation subforum ., add zuhai videos here
hi resolution jf-17 photos -- its in milit. mutimedia section --- add all quality jft airshow pics here

http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakistan-air-force/25862-paf-air-show-videos-7.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/milita...4335-high-resolution-pictures-jf-17-a-14.html


both of these threads have not been updated for several weeks
regards

 

[Armstrong]

I don't understand. It says FC-1 can take this weapon on board. But has Pakistan purchased it ?

Buttt tou idhar 2007 se hai aur yeh sawal kar rahaa haiii ?

FC-1 - Chinese Designation for the plane that we & China jointly developed !

JF-17 - Pakistani designation for the same plane which was further, from what I've heard, customized as per some of the unique requirements of the PAF !

Whatever is available for the FC-1 is available to us because its part of the same program with the majority of its production, from what I've heard, being carried out by PAC Kamra at a later date.

 

[Mav3rick]

Yes, just as I explained it, because it will be the best option to provide a sea blockade of Pakistani ports, but before that there will be strikes to destroy costal air bases, defence and of course PN assests.


As far as carrier is concerned, if it is protected by the layers of naval assets in waters and air, what stops these JFs to target escorts from standoff distances.

The air defence of course, as Contrarian tried to explain, having a missile is one point, getting into launch range another, since the fighter will be detected and engaged long before that. That's why I said, the safer and more likey option is to use it against land based targets, because these can be attacked even from Pakistani air space, without the need to avoid Indian defence first. Not to mention that the missiles is not useful against big and heavy armored target as a carrier, as some Chinese members already explained.
Forget the hype about this missile for a moment an think it through please, we know that JF 17 has already integrated C-802 anti ship missiles with way longer range and even bigger warheads. Do you really expect PAF attacking a carrier group with CM-400 AKG from closer distance and with higher risks for the fighters, instead of using C-802, or even Raad from safe distance?

Reading the last few pages, I was wondering if anybody had taken in to account the fact that at MACH 5+, the kinetic energy of the missile would eat any incoming missile etc. and continue on its course?

 

[xuxu1457]

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[monitor]

Why this information is here in JF-17 thread is this some why related to JF-17 ?

 

[Arsalan]

I don't understand. It says FC-1 can take this weapon on board. But has Pakistan purchased it ?

Buttt tou idhar 2007 se hai aur yeh sawal kar rahaa haiii ?

Have Updated in JF17 Information Pool thread, its sourced from Janes:

Pakistan acquires air-launched SOM capability, AIR-TO-SURFACE
Pakistan acquires air-launched SOM capability - Jane's Missiles and Rockets
Pakistan Air Force (PAF) officials have disclosed the existence of a new Chinese-developed air-to-surface Stand-Off Missile (SOM) that will equip the PAF's JF-17 Thunder multirole combat aircraft.

The weapon, designated CM-400AKG, is said to be a land-attack variant of the CASIC C-802 (YJ-82) anti-ship missile which has already been integrated on the JF-17. Jane's assesses that 'CM-400AKG' is, therefore, an export label for the CM-802AKG land-attack weapon that was first seen at the November 2010 Air Show China event.

Regards!

 

[Windjammer]

Illustration of JF-17 with missiles and the flight path of CM-400AKG and C-802AKG:

 

[farhan_9909]

as per paf official(reported today)

pac capacity for jft stand at 16 jft per year

anynews about the nawabshah plant?that was suppose to be separate production facility for jft and assembling of helicopter

 

[fatman17]

as per paf official(reported today)

pac capacity for jft stand at 16 jft per year

anynews about the nawabshah plant?that was suppose to be separate production facility for jft and assembling of helicopter

but it will increase to 25 in next 2-3 years. all at kamra

 

[Edevelop]

Buttt tou idhar 2007 se hai aur yeh sawal kar rahaa haiii ?

FC-1 - Chinese Designation for the plane that we & China jointly developed !

JF-17 - Pakistani designation for the same plane which was further, from what I've heard, customized as per some of the unique requirements of the PAF !

Whatever is available for the FC-1 is available to us because its part of the same program with the majority of its production, from what I've heard, being carried out by PAC Kamra at a later date.

No i know what FC-1 is. It is indeed the chineese variant of JF-17. I'm just asking whether Pakistan has bought the CM-400 missile because it says it can be taken on board by it....