Iranian Missiles | News and Discussions

[TheImmortal]

Iran would quite literally have to be suicidal to give up on it's missile program one iota!

The U.S. sanctioned Iran's military for 40 years! They have successfully prevented Iran from gradually upgrading it's Air Force for 4 decades now so even if they remove all sanctions on Iran's military tomorrow and handed Iran 200 F-35's for free it still wouldn't make a difference & Iran still couldn't afford to hand it's missiles over so there is absolutely nothing to negotiate about! This is a hole the west has spent 40 years digging it's self into and Iranian leaders would truly have to be suicidal to negotiate on it's missile program especially since Iran's own self restrictions on ICBM's have proven ineffective and are clearly not enough for them.

The day Iran even negotiates on its missiles no matter how small or large the concession is the day the Clock starts ticking on the Republic.

Nearly EVERYTIME a lesser power has negotiated with the US in arms related control it has ended badly for that power.

Example Russia(Soviet Union) negotiating nuclear treaties, Russia negotiating nuclear capable missile treaties, Russia negotiating cruise missiles, etc all these have WEAKEND Russia and lead to higher NATO presense on its doorstep along with missile shields. Lastly it still lead to Russia being sanctioned!

let’s not even name the Arab countries like Iraq and Libya.

Notice how China does not negotiate over its arms with the US. It moves full steam ahead not giving a damn about the others because that is how superpower and global powers think. Appeasement is for fools and traitors.

So either the Republic either goes down with the ship if it collapses (due to socio-economic reasons) or it becomes traitors and negotiates over Missile program. This will merely buy themselves sometime to stay in power a little while longer.

In the end, it ends the same.

 

[skyshadow]

https://www.telewebion.com/episode/2018995

 

[VEVAK]

The day Iran even negotiates on its missiles no matter how small or large the concession is the day the Clock starts ticking on the Republic.

Nearly EVERYTIME a lesser power has negotiated with the US in arms related control it has ended badly for that power.

Example Russia(Soviet Union) negotiating nuclear treaties, Russia negotiating nuclear capable missile treaties, Russia negotiating cruise missiles, etc all these have WEAKEND Russia and lead to higher NATO presense on its doorstep along with missile shields. Lastly it still lead to Russia being sanctioned!

let’s not even name the Arab countries like Iraq and Libya.

Notice how China does not negotiate over its arms with the US. It moves full steam ahead not giving a damn about the others because that is how superpower and global powers think. Appeasement is for fools and traitors.

So either the Republic either goes down with the ship if it collapses (due to socio-economic reasons) or it becomes traitors and negotiates over Missile program. This will merely buy themselves sometime to stay in power a little while longer.

In the end, it ends the same.

Agreed with most of what you said except for that last bit, negotiations about Iran's Missile program is not going to give anyone in power in Iran a little while longer in fact quite the opposite because it's not simply the foreign factor you have to deal with.

At the end of the day the U.S. hasn't sanctioned Iran's Air Force going on 4 decades because they wanted to prevent Iran from having missiles or nukes that could threaten U.S. or European soil.....

If it was up to me a month or two after the U.S. left the JCPOA and EU proved it's self to be incompetent Iran should have started sending SLV's up on a monthly bases, and opened up a new missile factory every month Americans or Europeans talked about Iranian missiles and prepped to not only leave the JCPOA but the NPT and prepared to start going fully nuclear as soon as possible once US sanctions on Iranian Oil started.

 

[skyshadow]

Take Notice, America: Iran's Missiles Keep Getting Better and Better

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/b...missiles-keep-getting-better-and-better-56132

 

[Mithridates]

UAE vs zelzal rockets:

UAE power plants

UAE airports

what surprise me is that UAE assets be it air ports or power plants are gathered near the sea and toward the northern part of the country, near iran shores and more importantly near the bandar abbas and air force 9th airbase. i'm wondering why they are talk shit while they are in such great vulnerability.

 

[sepasgozar]

UAE vs zelzal rockets:
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what surprise me is that UAE assets be it air ports or power plants are gathered near the sea and toward the northern part of the country, near iran shores and more importantly near the bandar abbas and air force 9th airbase. i'm wondering why they are talk shit while they are in such great vulnerability.

Our missiles are pointed at these bases. If the UAE thinks it will be bereft of responsibility and guilt in the event of agression against Iran, it is gravely mistaken.

 

[Mithridates]

Our missiles are pointed at these bases. If the UAE thinks it will be bereft of responsibility and guilt in the event of agression against Iran, it is gravely mistaken.

the point is geologically they are in a great disadvantage that we can pose a threat for them with just artillery rockets but they still threatening us.

 

[aryobarzan]

the point is geologically they are in a great disadvantage that we can pose a threat for them with just artillery rockets but they still threatening us.

The smaller the dog the louder they bark..

 

[Sineva]

UAE vs zelzal rockets:
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what surprise me is that UAE assets be it air ports or power plants are gathered near the sea and toward the northern part of the country, near iran shores and more importantly near the bandar abbas and air force 9th airbase. i'm wondering why they are talk shit while they are in such great vulnerability.

I think part of it was that its a pretty small country with most of the population centers near the coast,which is probably were all the traditional economic activity took place originally,and they probably never stopped to think that iran would go on to build the largest missile force in the me,or that the application of various forms of precision guidance to those missiles would make them terrifyingly accurate precision weapons rather than just the not particularly accurate area bombardment weapons that they previously were.
Ultimately even if they had known it would have done them little good as owing to their small size,they just like israel in fact,lack any strategic depth.

 

[skyshadow]

" The US could send Patriot missile batteries back to the region months after the US had brought some back home. No final decision on additional deployments have been made but the officials made clear if the Iranians were to pull back, the batteries might not be needed.
The Pentagon currently believes Iran's actions could put US and coalition forces at risk in Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and Qatar. US military and intelligence officials are monitoring the movement of the Iranian missiles around the clock but have yet to see a pullback."


https://edition.cnn.com/2019/05/07/politics/us-iran-transporting-missiles/index.html

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/...iran-moving-ballistic-missiles-by-boat-report

 

[Aramagedon]

 

[Arminkh]

" The US could send Patriot missile batteries back to the region months after the US had brought some back home. No final decision on additional deployments have been made but the officials made clear if the Iranians were to pull back, the batteries might not be needed.
The Pentagon currently believes Iran's actions could put US and coalition forces at risk in Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and Qatar. US military and intelligence officials are monitoring the movement of the Iranian missiles around the clock but have yet to see a pullback."


https://edition.cnn.com/2019/05/07/politics/us-iran-transporting-missiles/index.html

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/...iran-moving-ballistic-missiles-by-boat-report

Pull back from where? What are they talking about?

 

[sepasgozar]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/07/politics/us-iran-transporting-missiles/index.html

Every day another bullshlt article. What is the significance of moving missiles by boat? Things are either moved by sea or land... and a Ballistic missile is pretty huge and inefficient to move by cargo plane. Next article will claim that the recent aircraft carrier moving towards Persian Gulf was prompted by shiite groups communicating on radio more frequently, or perhaps even a fart caught in the wind may be used as their excuse.

 

[skyshadow]

Pull back from where? What are they talking about?

they want to add even more of these anti-missile systems near north of Iran and near south of Iran.

 

[Sineva]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/07/politics/us-iran-transporting-missiles/index.html

Every day another bullshlt article. What is the significance of moving missiles by boat? Things are either moved by sea or land... and a Ballistic missile is pretty huge and inefficient to move by cargo plane. Next article will claim that the recent aircraft carrier moving towards Persian Gulf was prompted by shiite groups communicating on radio more frequently, or perhaps even a fart caught in the wind may be used as their excuse.

True enough.Historically when dealing with fascists the excuse didnt matter,indeed if one didnt exist then they would create it whether it was poles attacking german rado stations,or non existent attacks by non existent Vietnamese torpedo boats or mobile iraqi weapons labs or aluminium tubes or.....or basically take your pick.