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[Arminkh]

To end doubts, about the accuracy of the missiles, IRGC has issued some clarifications on where the other 4 missiles headed:

https://www.mashreghnews.ir/news/892377/مستندات-اصابت-موشک-های-سپاه-به-مواضع-تروریست-های-حدکا-عکس-و

Apparently there is a training camp belonging to the same group that was hit by the other 4 missiles. Camp is shown with number 2:

First and 2nd missile hitting their targets:

 

[VEVAK]

To end doubts, about the accuracy of the missiles, IRGC has issued some clarifications on where the other 4 missiles headed:

https://www.mashreghnews.ir/news/892377/مستندات-اصابت-موشک-های-سپاه-به-مواضع-تروریست-های-حدکا-عکس-و

Apparently there is a training camp belonging to the same group that was hit by the other 4 missiles. Camp is shown with number 2:

First and 2nd missile hitting their targets:

Iran had multiple hits on the headquarters and got a near 100% success rate in terms of targeting and hitting it's primary target!!!!!!
And IRGC likely used a more advanced version of the Fatteh like the Fatteh Mobin against it's primary target that was mainly the leadership and command level guys but likely used a less expensive version on the rest for they were not primary targets like the Training compound which Iran managed to hit but not exactly where they wanted & according to the Kurdish terrorist one of the houses of their guys was also hit and more likely than not a command level terrorist.

 

[Hack-Hook]

To end doubts, about the accuracy of the missiles, IRGC has issued some clarifications on where the other 4 missiles headed:

https://www.mashreghnews.ir/news/892377/مستندات-اصابت-موشک-های-سپاه-به-مواضع-تروریست-های-حدکا-عکس-و

Apparently there is a training camp belonging to the same group that was hit by the other 4 missiles. Camp is shown with number 2:

First and 2nd missile hitting their targets:

still there is no news on what happened to two missile , 4 hit the target , 1 deviated after launch and self destructed twostill missing.
well on plus side these were Fatih-110b from more than a decade ago

 

[VEVAK]

still there is no news on what happened to two missile , 4 hit the target , 1 deviated after launch and self destructed twostill missing.
well on plus side these were Fatih-110b from more than a decade ago

For the primary target I believe Iran used the Mobin's because to hit a building like that multiple times exactly where the meeting took place would have "required" a CEP of under 10 meters!!!!!!!!
And people can say what they want but achieving a CEP of 10 meters with multiple hits would be high accuracy even on a subsonic cruise missile with 700lb warhead let alone a supersonic ballistic missile with a 1000lb warhead and near the missiles max effective range!!!!!!!!

Just so people understand what that means in terms of military targets this is what a small Aircraft bunker looks like

Normal Runway's

Docked FAC Missile Boat or patrol boat


SAM TeL's & Radar



Off shore Oil rigs


10 meter CEP with a Ballistic Missile with 1000lb warhead is all the Precision targeting Iran would ever need to hit any fixed target with it's ballistic or cruise missiles

The rest is just a matter of how many missiles you can produce and launch

 

[Hack-Hook]

For the primary target I believe Iran used the Mobin's because to hit a building like that multiple times exactly where the meeting took place would have "required" a CEP of under 10 meters!!!!!!!!
And people can say what they want but achieving a CEP of 10 meters with multiple hits would be high accuracy even on a subsonic cruise missile with 700lb warhead let alone a supersonic ballistic missile with a 1000lb warhead and near the missiles max effective range!!!!!!!!

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Just so people understand what that means in terms of military targets this is what a small Aircraft bunker looks like
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Normal Runway's

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Docked FAC Missile Boat or patrol boat
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SAM TeL's & Radar

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Off shore Oil rigs
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10 meter CEP with a Ballistic Missile with 1000lb warhead is all the Precision targeting Iran would ever need to hit any fixed target with it's ballistic or cruise missiles

The rest is just a matter of how many missiles you can produce and launch

the Mobin warhead is different did any of the missile in the video had that warhead?

 

[TheImmortal]

the Mobin warhead is different did any of the missile in the video had that warhead?

He is confused. The Mobin warhead isn’t some super duper PGM. It simply is a land target based version of the Khalij Fars missile seeker.

During terminal phase the warhead corrects itself based on comparing the surroundings to the actual target and then to the target image in its memory. Adjustments are made if the warhead is off trajectory.

While it’s possible both missiles hit the same GPS/GLONASS target. It is also possible the intial explosion is the warhead of a single missile penetrating the building and the subsequent is the detonation of warhead based on delay fuse.

Another possibility is a secondary explosion triggered if there was a gas line, explosives, etc in that section of the building.

Any claim that the Mobin seeker corrected itself to a SPECIFIC ROOM is simply without merit when presented without proof.

 

[Arminkh]

For the primary target I believe Iran used the Mobin's because to hit a building like that multiple times exactly where the meeting took place would have "required" a CEP of under 10 meters!!!!!!!!
And people can say what they want but achieving a CEP of 10 meters with multiple hits would be high accuracy even on a subsonic cruise missile with 700lb warhead let alone a supersonic ballistic missile with a 1000lb warhead and near the missiles max effective range!!!!!!!!

View attachment 498227

Just so people understand what that means in terms of military targets this is what a small Aircraft bunker looks like
View attachment 498228

Normal Runway's

View attachment 498231

Docked FAC Missile Boat or patrol boat
View attachment 498232

SAM TeL's & Radar

View attachment 498234 View attachment 498233

Off shore Oil rigs
View attachment 498235

10 meter CEP with a Ballistic Missile with 1000lb warhead is all the Precision targeting Iran would ever need to hit any fixed target with it's ballistic or cruise missiles

The rest is just a matter of how many missiles you can produce and launch

Do you think they marked the target with laser using drones? The accuracy is still too high for a ballistic missile. It is probably comparable to that of Iskander if not better?

still there is no news on what happened to two missile , 4 hit the target , 1 deviated after launch and self destructed twostill missing.
well on plus side these were Fatih-110b from more than a decade ago

All are accounted for. 1 went off track, 2 hit the meeting, 4 hit the training camp. All but one but their target. Much better than Tomahawk performance in most recent US attack on Syria

 

[Hack-Hook]

Do you think they marked the target with laser using drones? The accuracy is still too high for a ballistic missile. It is probably comparable to that of Iskander if not better?


All are accounted for. 1 went off track, 2 hit the meeting, 4 hit the training camp. All but one but their target. Much better than Tomahawk performance in most recent US attack on Syria

but they only show 2 hit for training camp

 

[Arminkh]

but they only show 2 hit for training camp

There were 4 explosion smoke over the camp. I posted that further up

 

[skyshadow]

but they only show 2 hit for training camp

 

[VEVAK]

the Mobin warhead is different did any of the missile in the video had that warhead?

Did you see every single launch from close range??? NO! At best Iran showed 4-5 of them & FYI the ONLY visible difference between the Mobins and the others is a pointy tip vs mobins rounded tip and of the launches shown at best you could only see 3-4 that actually had pointy tip! And yes almost all of them were the Fatteh-110B rockets that when produced over a decade ago and had a CEP of 0.09% of max range (~220 meters at max effective range but almost all of them had their guidance upgraded to 0.03% of max range ~75 meters by ~2010-12 including the export version and again except for the export versions almost all of them got upgraded again to under 35 meters CEP by 2014)

So yes the Rocket are B's but the Guidance systems are NOT because the original B's would of had a CEP of over 200 meters at 220km and you can't really target anything with that!

 

[VEVAK]

Do you think they marked the target with laser using drones? The accuracy is still too high for a ballistic missile. It is probably comparable to that of Iskander if not better?


All are accounted for. 1 went off track, 2 hit the meeting, 4 hit the training camp. All but one but their target. Much better than Tomahawk performance in most recent US attack on Syria

Aziam even if I knew "Which I do not" I still wouldn't say what was used online!!!

But if your trying to see in Human error played into the mix then yes the lower your CEP the increase chances of human error but I don't believe the UAV was lasing the target and the reason he moved his camera after the 1st hit was because of the smoke you lose the ability to lock on to an image due to smoke!

 

[Hack-Hook]

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some may say 1&2 hit camp , 3&4 hit the castle
it will be consistent with this Aerial image

 

[TheImmortal]

some may say 1&2 hit camp , 3&4 hit the castle
it will be consistent with this Aerial image

So 4 out of 7 made contact against an air defenseless opponent? Has this been generally confirmed?

If so, then I don’t care if they were all F-110B’s that rate of improvement needs to get much higher.

Both targets were massive in size equivalent to a small military forward base. Completely missing them is not sufficient.

 

[Hack-Hook]

So 4 out of 7 made contact against an air defenseless opponent? Has this been generally confirmed?

If so, then I don’t care if they were all F-110B’s that rate of improvement needs to get much higher.

Both targets were massive in size equivalent to a small military forward base. Completely missing them is not sufficient.

well there is no doubt the faster the rate of improvement the better .
but about the targets were big ,I say no the targets were some tent and a room , they were not that big. I say the precision for the missiles tat hit the area is as good as Iskander missile
what I wonder is that where is two other missile ? why nobody talk about them , even if they hit desert why nobody say so , if they hit some other place why keep it secret ? honestly you expect with today technologies somebody could have answered those questions ?