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[Fafnir]

The "out of the air" filament woven missile casings of North Korea is a little suspicious.

Iran started with steel casings that lead to Fateh-110 finally and the moved to a larger diameter with the Sedjil.
Now since some 10 years after the Sejil, there is still no filament casing shown in Iran.

Either NKs had a sudden technology influx that propelled them to that technology. Or they got it from a experienced solid fuel developer that went a natural path.

Is the sejil program even still going?,there have been no new developments or unveilings,indeed one gets the impression that the program has either been quietly halted/scrapped or at the least indefinitely suspended.
As for the dprks new found composite/filament case motors the tech for these could also have been part of the haul of booty the dprk purchased from the post soviet weapons/tech fire sale back in the early 90s

 

[TheImmortal]

The "out of the air" filament woven missile casings of North Korea is a little suspicious.

Iran started with steel casings that lead to Fateh-110 finally and the moved to a larger diameter with the Sedjil.
Now since some 10 years after the Sejil, there is still no filament casing shown in Iran.

Either NKs had a sudden technology influx that propelled them to that technology. Or they got it from a experienced solid fuel developer that went a natural path.

There was a recent article that said NK has gotten through the black market advanced solid fuel engines (through Russia or Ukraine) that have suddenly allowed it to experience the jump in technology it has experienced.

It is pretty suspicious that North Korea after all its missile failings with less sophisticated missiles suddenly starts making a functional advanced ICBM as well as MRBM.

 

[mohsen]

There was a recent article that said NK has gotten through the black market advanced solid fuel engines (through Russia or Ukraine) that have suddenly allowed it to experience the jump in technology it has experienced.

It is pretty suspicious that North Korea after all its missile failings with less sophisticated missiles suddenly starts making a functional advanced ICBM as well as MRBM.

and those so called failure reports by U.S aren't suspicious?!

 

[Cthulhu]

Is there evidence that IRI is also using Aramid fiber in her missiles? That would be a huge step forward for IRI.

I don't know.

 

[SOHEIL]

Is the sejil program even still going?

LOL what!?

Is there evidence that IRI is also using Aramid fiber in her missiles? That would be a huge step forward for IRI.

This is one of the reasons behind increasing zulfaqar missiles range to 750 km !

 

[AmirPatriot]

LOL what!?

Well to be fair, we have not heard anything about Sejjil for years.

 

[SOHEIL]

Well to be fair, we have not heard anything about Sejjil for years.

It doesn't mean the project is dead ...

Next generations not unveiled yet !

 

[yavar]

 

[Draco.IMF]

@yavar - 2 questions:

1)

What is the CEP of the Shahab-2 with new guidance?

2)

How is it possible to use land attack cruise missiles like Ya-Ali or Soumar with high precision without satellites, Iran doesnt have them.
Cruise Missiles without Satellite guidance, with good precision, how is that a solution for Iran?
I hear Cruise missiles without satellites are useless.

 

[yavar]

1)What is the CEP of the Shahab-2 with new guidance?

not much but Emad or Zolfaghar or .......... have 3 to 5 meter CEP

2)How is it possible to use land attack cruise missiles like Ya-Ali

Ya-Ali is guided it use guided system,which ..................

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Soumar missile with high precision .

i wish if they did release images it kinetic impact so you can see high precision,
Soumar uses multiple system for guidance

 

[Aspahbod]

I hear Cruise missiles without satellites are useless.

One can use TERCOM with terminal optical/IR to accurately guide a cruise missile. Many cruise missiles use the former but the latter is needed if you want proper target recognition. It also needs the aerial radar maps of the whole route and it cannot be used in routes where there is little distinguishing topographical features (e.g. flat deserts). But it is an accurate guidance system that is independent of satellite positioning and can still be used alongside them as backup.

 

[Hack-Hook]

One can use TERCOM with terminal optical/IR to accurately guide a cruise missile. Many cruise missiles use the former but the latter is needed if you want proper target recognition. It also needs the aerial radar maps of the whole route and it cannot be used in routes where there is little distinguishing topographical features (e.g. flat deserts). But it is an accurate guidance system that is independent of satellite positioning and can still be used alongside them as backup.

you can also use many other things like star-maps and communication tower

 

[VEVAK]

not much but Emad or Zolfaghar or .......... have 3 to 5 meter CEP


Ya-Ali is guided it use guided system,which ..................

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i wish if they did release images it kinetic impact so you can see high precision,
Soumar uses multiple system for guidance

Emad at 1600km has a CEP of 500 meters not 50! Not 5! But 500 meters! And with Ballistic missiles that means 1 out of 2 will land within 500 meters of the target!
That means Iran can target large facilities like power plants & sections of an Air Base or a Naval port but they can not target individual buildings or bunkers with it!
Zolfaghar & Fatteh Class missiles at 300-700km have a CEP of 50 meters! that means you can target large buildings, runways,... But you will not be able to successfully take out a heavily fortified Aircraft bunker. Now you can disrupt Air operations and damage some aircrafts but to take out the bunker it's self you'll need a CEP of 7 meters or less with a good size warhead
Now the Zolfaghar & Fatteh class have the potential of being upgraded with an additional counter imaging terminal phase like the Persian Gulf missile but they will be expensive

I think it would make more sense if Iran used a volley of Ballistic Missiles to disrupt Air Operations and go after larger Radar systems & then use cruise missiles & UCAV's to individually target buildings and bunkers.

Also, any GPS based Missiles or UAV's will be useless if war breaks out! Those systems can be turned off with a push of a button & worse yet they can be tracked before they are even launched & the nonsense that Israeli General is talking about is nothing more than misinformation to try to get Iran to use those systems for guidance!

Putting those GPS systems on your missiles is a grave mistake & it will allow the U.S. to track and locate every missile & UAV you have and find their bunkers! This is nothing more than misinformation & I hope Iran is not deluded enough to use them on any of their missiles! And yes you can have a few of your systems based on those GPS systems for anti-terrorist operations during peace time!

 

[ashool]

Emad at 1600km has a CEP of 500 meters not 50! Not 5! But 500 meters! And with Ballistic missiles that means 1 out of 2 will land within 500 meters of the target!
That means Iran can target large facilities like power plants & sections of an Air Base or a Naval port but they can not target individual buildings or bunkers with it!
Zolfaghar & Fatteh Class missiles at 300-700km have a CEP of 50 meters! that means you can target large buildings, runways,... But you will not be able to successfully take out a heavily fortified Aircraft bunker. Now you can disrupt Air operations and damage some aircrafts but to take out the bunker it's self you'll need a CEP of 7 meters or less with a good size warhead
Now the Zolfaghar & Fatteh class have the potential of being upgraded with an additional counter imaging terminal phase like the Persian Gulf missile but they will be expensive

I think it would make more sense if Iran used a volley of Ballistic Missiles to disrupt Air Operations and go after larger Radar systems & then use cruise missiles & UCAV's to individually target buildings and bunkers.

Also, any GPS based Missiles or UAV's will be useless if war breaks out! Those systems can be turned off with a push of a button & worse yet they can be tracked before they are even launched & the nonsense that Israeli General is talking about is nothing more than misinformation to try to get Iran to use those systems for guidance!

Putting those GPS systems on your missiles is a grave mistake & it will allow the U.S. to track and locate every missile & UAV you have and find their bunkers! This is nothing more than misinformation & I hope Iran is not deluded enough to use them on any of their missiles! And yes you can have a few of your systems based on those GPS systems for anti-terrorist operations during peace time!

Where did you get this information and you have no flag
if your information is from west side go and rub ...... its iranian room and please use iranian information

http://www.aparat.com/v/q2Scy/تست_موشک_جدید_بالستیک_عماد_(کیفیت_بالا)

maybe you source is wikii the child information

 

[Stryker1982]

Where did you get this information and you have no flag
if your information is from west side go and rub ...... its iranian room and please use iranian information

http://www.aparat.com/v/q2Scy/تست_موشک_جدید_بالستیک_عماد_(کیفیت_بالا)

maybe you source is wikii the child information

Vevak is a long time and respected member of this room, you should be careful calling him a fool, he knows alot more than you do. Though I thought it was widely believed to be 150 cep