Hong Kong protests proves that China soft power is non existent.

[tower9]

Why were some of the Hong Kong protesters waving American flags? That looked really suspicious. Seems like they were agent provocateur possibly being paid by the CIA.





The Chinese members on PDF are really nice. It's always a pleasure communicating with them.

Being unable to relate to people who are different to you is due to lack of contact with other cultures from an early age. Nothing more. It is very easy to change.

Most of the Chinese members here are autistic and retarded. I think you are being polite.

They are waving American flags because they want American and British support. They are also being supported and paid by the CIA, it is another color revolution. But trust me, they hate Mainlanders and do not need American manipulation to do what they are doing. They are not driven by democracy, they are driven by their hate of Mainlanders and their colonial mentality.

 

[PAKSpecialForces]

Most of the Chinese members here are autistic and retarded. I think you are being polite.

They are waving American flags because they want American and British support. They are also being supported and paid by the CIA, it is another color revolution. But trust me, they hate Mainlanders and do not need American manipulation to do what they are doing. They are not driven by democracy, they are driven by their hate of Mainlanders and their colonial mentality.

Why do they hate the mainlandets so much? Is it a class war or a politically motivated?

 

[maximuswarrior]

Why do they hate the mainlandets so much? Is it a class war or a politically motivated?

It was instilled for decades by you guessed right. The same colonial country that is responsible for much of the conflicts around the world including Kashmir.

 

[tower9]

Why do they hate the mainlandets so much? Is it a class war or a politically motivated?

For many decades Hong Kong was much richer than the Mainland. They came to believe that they were superior to Mainlanders. They see the Mainlanders as poor, ignorant people while the HKers saw themselves as the richer, more superior, more cultured people. They saw the British as their masters.

Now everything is turned on its head. The British are gone and the Mainland is surpassing them. HK's economy is shit because of the incompetence of the local govt, meanwhile many Mainland cities are beating them. They are bitter and resentful.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

That is definitely part of it. Hong Kongers have a deep hatred for Mainland Chinese because for many decades they had a superiority complex towards the Mainlanders. The fact that the Mainland is surpassing them has bred a lot of resentment. Their own economic problems are due to the fact that their local government is dominated by property developers, the Mainland didn't create any of their problems. The ironic thing is that the Mainland could probably solve their economic problems but Hong Kongers will freak out in hysteria if the Mainland actually did anything to help them.

Hong Kongers are groomed to see White people as their masters. The flag waving and all of their virtue signaling are all a part of gaining the sympathy of White anglos, and they literally only care about gaining the approval and sympathy of White anglos and no one else. Hong Kongers btw are no practitioners of liberal values, they are some of the most hateful and racist people in the world, just ask any African or South Asian who live in Hong Kong.

Well in terms of racism the mainlanders aren’t exactly angels. However since Hong Kong was a British colony some of the more notoriously unpleasant British views of “peoples of the world” have probably rubbed off on them (and I’m sure the mainlanders were a favorite target). So I won’t argue with you on that.

As for the flag waving I’m not going to argue with those assertions either. They can wave the US flag all they want but to most Americans they may as well be mainlanders. They don’t see much difference between them and the Tiananmen protesters.

 

[tower9]

Well in terms of racism the mainlanders aren’t exactly angels. However since Hong Kong was a British colony some of the more notoriously unpleasant British views of “peoples of the world” have probably rubbed off on them (and I’m sure the mainlanders were a favorite target). So I won’t argue with you on that.

As for the flag waving I’m not going to argue with those assertions either. They can wave the US flag all they want but to most Americans they may as well be mainlanders. They don’t see much difference between them and the Tiananmen protesters.

I agree with everything you said.

Mainland Chinese are ignorant as **** when it comes to race and they absolutely horrid as far as racial sensitivity.

But trust me, Hong Kongers are way more intentionally nasty when it comes to being huge racists. Mainlanders are mainly just ignorant and insensitive as hell, but they are more pleasant people in general than Hong Kongers.

Yes, most Americans do not care about Hong Kong and cannot differentiate between them and the Mainlanders. But the HKers are trying very hard to gain American approval and support.

 

[PAKSpecialForces]

For many decades Hong Kong was much richer than the Mainland. They came to believe that they were superior to Mainlanders. They see the Mainlanders as poor, ignorant people while the HKers saw themselves as the richer, more superior, more cultured people. They saw the British as their masters.

Now everything is turned on its head. The British are gone and the Mainland is surpassing them. HK's economy is shit because of the incompetence of the local govt, meanwhile many Mainland cities are beating them. They are bitter and resentful.

From what I've seen on the internet, ALL Chinese cities nowadays look more advanced and developed than London and other major Western Cities. The rise of China has been miraculous.

It's a shame that some people from Hong Kong have that attitude.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Many HKers are brainwashed just like the western Ukrainians.

You do NOT have to go all the way to HONGKONG, ... to discover that PRC & majority of
Chinese people in general ~ just do NOT have ... the Soft--power ... or at the very least
have usually FAILED ... time and time again to apply and use their Soft--power properly.

EXHIBIT 1 is right here in this ... PDF forums. >>>

#1) Majority of Chinese PDF members have usually FAILED to appreciate & support
all those Non--Chinese PDF members who are defending PRC and CHINA and Chinese
values and interest in general ~ by
GENEROUSLY generously clicking ...
the >> THUMB UP ~ THANK YOU << button on those defending CHN postings.

Only because these Non--Chinese PDF members do not have 2 PRC flags
showing under their PDF avatars.

This specific behavior above is extremely short sighted in terms of
accumulating and building up CHN Soft--power.


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#2) also equally important ~ Majority of Chinese PDF members have usually FAILED
to stand up and DEFEND those nations who are clearly the ... enemies of
( the #1 Global CRIMINAL nation on EARTH ~ which is the United Satan of Murica ).

===

For examples:
These nations are ( RUSSIA, IRAN, NORTH KOREA, SYRIA, VENEZUELA, IRAQ,
PAKISTAN, BELARUS, SERBIA, CUBA, and ... many others nations who hate Murica )
who are repeatedly under attack and being bullied repeatedly by the United Satan of Murica
and their SLAVES nations such as Aussie, UK )

*** Even much more embarrassing and deeply disturbing is too many Chinese are
exhibiting their secret desire to become friendly with the Devil Empire himself.

Devil Empire =
( the #1 Global CRIMINAL nation on EARTH ~ which is the United Satan of Murica )

PRC and Chinese people still have a long, long, long way to go in terms of
properly applying their Soft--power to and supporting those who are defending CHN.
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Most veteran PDF Chinese members like myself usually appreciate the supports from the non-Chinese members.

BTW, the US is not looking to compete soft power with China, but rather hard power.

They are in deep troubles right now, and they also know that the soft power is nothing without being backed by the hard power.

 

[Brainsucker]

For many decades Hong Kong was much richer than the Mainland. They came to believe that they were superior to Mainlanders. They see the Mainlanders as poor, ignorant people while the HKers saw themselves as the richer, more superior, more cultured people. They saw the British as their masters.

Now everything is turned on its head. The British are gone and the Mainland is surpassing them. HK's economy is shit because of the incompetence of the local govt, meanwhile many Mainland cities are beating them. They are bitter and resentful.

Yes, Hongkong is so different to Macao. Unlike Hongkong, Macao is very quiet. And I heard Chinese Government give them more land to expand their territory.

 

[lcloo]

From Hong Kong Chinese newspaper Wenhui Daily on how western infiltrated educations poisoned the minds of young students.

Hong Kong School Textbook contains loop holes and Poisonous Teaching

High school general knowledge has been implemented for10 years, and it has been a subject of continuous controversy. The subject's curriculum is closely linked to social events, but there are loopholes in its implementation, it is easy for people of ulterior motives to disseminate and propagate biased information, and has created problems that some students are being "poisoned" by the school text material.

As the General Knowledge subject does not required verification (by education dept), the so-called "textbooks" on the market are not guaranteed any quality and thas been repeatedly exposed as biased or erroneous.

不設課本送審制度 恐成縱暴政治宣傳品
高中通識科推行10年，一直持續掀起爭議。該科有崇高課程宗旨，與社會事件緊密聯繫，落實時卻存漏洞，易讓別有用心者傳播及滲透偏頗資訊，令部分學生受到「毒害」，其中教學相關材料便是一大問題所在。由於通識科不設課本送審制度，市面上的所謂「教科書」沒經任何質素保證，結果被多次揭發偏頗或錯誤內容。 ​

In addition, because general knowledge is flexible in teaching, teachers can choose or write teaching materials by so-called "professional" basis, but in fact, many materials and examination questions lack balance and are rather suggestive in nature ; The yellow (umbrella protestors) factions took the opportunity to inject teaching texts biased with propaganda materials, instigating students to rise up to struggle, participating in illegal activities.
Reporting by Chi Wenfeng and Wen Genmao in Hong Kong
另外由於通識科具教學彈性較大，教師可憑「專業」選擇或編寫教材，但實際上不少材料以及考題角度欠持平，充滿引導性；更有部分「黃師」視此為可乘之機，製作出稱為「教材」的政治宣傳品，煽動學生積極參與「抗爭」甚或激進違法行為，令人髮指。 ■香港文匯報記者 姬文風、文根茂

Indoctrination of Police as Enemy: The Saint Stephen College Examination Papers
In July this year's Saint Stephen College examination paper, in which some cartoons depicting the illegal "occupying of Central" incident, focused only on police action taking away protestors, and their chants of "occupying motor way is not a crime", but ignore mention of violations of law, and impact on the society.

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The examination papers were said "mentioning the goodness of struggling against the laws and silent on the detrimental effect", and playing up the hostility between the police and the public, (these examination papers) are suspected to be tools of teachers trying to "brainwash" students and instilling a sense of hatred against the police. ​

【灌輸仇警】聖士提反書院中一通識科試卷 ​

今年7月流傳的聖士提反書院中一通識科試卷，當中的漫畫指向非法「佔中」事件，但譁眾取寵只聚焦描繪示威者被警察抬走一刻，及其高呼「佔路不是罪」，對其實際所違法例，及「佔中」的社會影響隻字不提。 ​

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試卷被指對違法抗爭「只提好處不問壞處」，及渲染警民敵對，質疑老師是要向學生「洗腦」及灌輸仇警思想。​

Advocating "Occupy Central" by the Hong Kong Professional Teachers' Union (HKPTU) as political propaganda teaching material
Shortly after the illegal concept of "occupying China" was put forward in 2013, the director of the HKPTU, Fang Jingle, produced the so-called "Occupying Central" teaching material, which was reviewed by Dai Yaoting as an adviser and reviewed, strongly "promote" the details of the operation of "Occupy Central", as a guide on how to "occupy Central", in the 39-page text material, only 1 page added a little "controversial" opinion to the 39-page teaching material.

In the face of questions from all sides, the HKPTU subsequently launched the 2.0 edition of the"Textbook", which added a little disagreement with the view of "occupying Central" and the addition of a number of opposition scholars and advisers to "play balance view", but still used Dai Yaoting's advocacy of "occupying Central" as the"main" and essence of political propaganda remained unchanged.

【鼓吹「佔中」】教協教材博政治宣傳 ​

2013年非法「佔中」理念提出不久，教協理事方景樂便製作所謂的「佔中」通識「教材」，由戴耀廷任顧問及作審查，以絕大篇幅「推介」「佔中」操作詳情，有如一本「佔中行動指南」，39頁的教材中只在1頁不起眼處添加少許「爭議」意見。 ​

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面對各方質疑，教協其後推出「教材」2.0版本，補充了少許不同意「佔中」的觀點及新增多名反對派學者顧問「扮持平」，不過仍然以戴耀廷鼓吹「佔中」內容作「主打」，政治宣傳本質不變。 ​

"Distortion of the Facts" published anti-China political cartoons
There General Knowledge subject in some English Secondary Schools include in wholesome biased anti-China Western depiction, using anti-China political cartoons as teaching material in attacking the so-called "re-education camps", and adding "brainwashing" allegations, under the pretext of "in the name of general knowledge" to make political attacks on China.

In fact, China has repeatedly expressed its dissatisfaction with the western society's distortion of the Vocational Skills Education Training Center in Xinjiang as a "re-education camp" and stressed that the training center is one of a series of anti-terrorism and de-extremist measures taken by Xinjiang to effectively safeguard local security and basic human rights of the people of all ethnic groups. In addition, earlier, 50 permanent ambassadors to Geneva sent a joint letter, positive evaluation of Xinjiang's anti-terrorism and de-extremist results.

【歪曲事實】刊反華政治漫畫 ​

有英文中學的通識課，就西方反華勢力對中國的偏頗描述照單全收，直接以其所謂「再教育營」反華政治漫畫作教學材料，並加上「洗腦」指控，假借「通識之名」向中國作政治攻擊。 ​

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事實上，中方曾多次對西方社會將新疆去極端化的職業技能教育培訓中心歪曲成「再教育營」表達不滿，並強調該培訓中心屬於新疆採取一系列的反恐和去極端化措施之一，有效保障當地安全形勢及各族人民基本人權。另外，早前亦有50個國家常駐日內瓦大使聯名致函，積極評價新疆的反恐及去極端化成果。​

Subjective Theory on "Star-catching starting point General education, answering all mighty key"
Explaining the so-called "insufficient credibility of the Government" argument, it accused without concrete backing (evidence) that the Chief Executive was "involved in a number of scandals" and used it as a "reason" to explain the reason that some members of the public had therefore "often taunted the Government in different ways and even attacked the Legislative Council and Government Headquarters". The whole process of such (anti-government) theory was groundless and extremely subjective.

When referring to the relevant contents of modern China's reform and opening-up, other than short mention of rapid economic development, the rest of the content is biased towards negative issues, including "three rural issues", "migrant workers", "left-behind children", "corruption problems", but rarely mentioned the opportunities brought about by reform and opening up.
The general knowledge subject should be (balance with) positive and negative point of view, but there is a obvious bias.

【立論主觀】《奪星起步點 通識教育 答題萬能key》 ​

在說明所謂「政府公信力不足」論點時，於無實質例子下斷言行政長官「涉及不少醜聞」，並以此作「理由」，解釋部分市民因此「經常以不同方式嘲諷政府，甚至衝擊立法會及政府總部」，整個立論過程毫無事實根據且極其主觀。 ​

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提及現代中國改革開放相關內容時，除開首簡單提到經濟高速發展，幾乎一面倒闡述負面問題，包括「三農問題」、「農民工」、「留守兒童」、「貪腐問題」等，但鮮有提及改革開放所帶來的機遇。以通識科理應正反觀點並舉而言，有偏頗之嫌。​

"Beautification of illegal act" Mingming High School General Education - Hong Kong Today
In the paragraph "Identity under social change", inappropriate and even illegal acts such as "expulsion of mainland tourists", "shrieking the national anthem" and "promoting "Hong Kong independence" are referred to as "battles", while other reactions are reduced to "escape", "close to power" or "surrender".

The content has been criticised for deliberately provoking confrontation between Hong Kong and the Mainland, while glorifying extreme illegal activities and inculcating students' misconceptions. ​

【美化違法】《明名高中通識教育-今日香港》 ​

在「社會轉變下的身份認同」段落裡，把「驅趕內地遊客」、「噓國歌」、「提倡『港獨』」等不當甚至違法行為稱為「戰鬥」，而其他反應則被貶低為「逃跑」、「靠攏權力」或「投降」。有關內容被批評刻意挑動香港與內地對立，同時美化極端違法行為，灌輸學生錯誤觀念​

In the simulated examination questions, students were asked to discuss whether they agreed to "the more radical the way they become when participating in social and political affairs." Some have questioned whether it is a mock misalignment to juxtapose the election with the illegal so-called "referendum" and the "revolution" that toppled the regime.

In addition, the discussion of "effectiveness" in the questions was also described as biased and guided, as only the "Jasmine Revolution" data were described as "successful change of day", making it easier for students to obtain conclusions that were "the more radical the more effective".

在模擬試題部分，以「加泰獨立公投」、「茉莉花革命」及「2016年立法會選舉」三則資料，要求學生討論是否同意「在參與社會政治事務時，愈激進的方式成效愈大」。 ​

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有意見質疑，將體制內選舉，與違法的所謂「公投」及推翻政權的「革命」並列是類比失當。另外，試題討論「成效」亦被指偏頗且具引導性，因為只有「茉莉花革命」資料以所謂「成功變天」作描述，讓學生較易獲得「愈激進愈有效」的結論。​

Unjustified Allegations: Junior High School New Thinking General Knowledge Unit 2: Hong Kong Today
Referring to the practice of "one country, two systems" in Hong Kong, he quoted the so-called "lawyers" as saying that "the implementation process of the Basic Law is more biased towards "one country" than "two systems", and quoted "the people" of unfounded accusations that the Central Government "regularly intervenes in Hong Kong affairs" and caused it to lose confidence in "one country, two systems" and take into account the foreign life. As for the "government" means to adhere to the principle of "one country, two systems", it has been gently brought in the paragraph.

【無理指控】《初中新思維通識單元2：今日香港》 ​

在提及「一國兩制」在港實踐時，引用了所謂「律師」對釋法的意見，稱「基本法的執行過程易偏向『一國』多於『兩制』」，又引述「市民」沒根據地指控中央政府「經常介入香港事務」，令其「對『一國兩制』失信心，考慮到外地生活」云云。至於「政府」指會堅守「一國兩制」原則，則在段落中輕輕帶過。有關編排被批評帶明顯傾向，會引導學生對「一國兩制」不抱信心。 ​

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The criticism of the arrangement has a clear tendency to lead students to have no confidence in "one country, two systems". On the discussion of the Chief Executive by universal suffrage, the book only emphasizes that some members of the public's appeal to the so-called "true universal suffrage" has not joined the public's voice in support of the political reform package, and has been questioned about the intention to create confrontation between the SAR Government and the public.

In explaining the "citizen's resistance", there is no clear indication of the illegality. ​

有關普選行政長官的討論，書中只強調部分市民對所謂「真普選」的訴求，未有加入市民支持政改方案的聲音，被質疑有意營造特區政府與市民對立。而在解釋「公民抗命」時，亦未有釐清當中的違法情況。​

"General Reading - Personal Growth and Interpersonal Relationships"
The content is biased, including the discussion "Why is the sentence of juvenile severity less than that of an adult when committing an offence?"

Explaining the so-called "protection of young people" as an important value of society and "not necessarily conscious and premeditated" when committing an offence, it was questioned that young people should not be responsible for making mistakes.

Under the title "Post-80s Political Participation", the glorification of political activities as "the pay of being a part of society" has been accused of being single-handed and of advocating young participation in radicalization.

【內容偏頗】《通識精讀─個人成長與人際關係》 ​

內容偏頗，包括探討「為什麼青少年犯事時判刑較成年人為輕？」並以所謂「『保護青少年』為社會的重要價值觀」、犯事時「未必有意識、有預謀」等作解釋，被質疑渲染青少年犯錯不用負責任的錯誤想法。 ​

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以「80後的政治參與」為題，將政治活動美化成「作為社會一分子的付出」，被指角度單一，且有鼓吹年輕參與激進違法行為之嫌。 ​

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"Wrong Facts" in Form Four class Examination Paper of Saint Francis College
Form four examination papers of Saint. Francis College in 2017 cited biased data from a special meeting of police members during the "Seven Police Cases". The meeting was held in a private place only for members and representatives to attend and was not a public meeting, but the examination paper alleged that the assembly "did not apply for the Notice of No Objection" and slandered the "slogans such as insulting judges" during the meeting.

The organizers of the rally and later criticized the reference "all wrong"! At the same time, the question in the examination paper assumes that the assembly "has violated the spirit of the rule of law" and asks students to explain "how to violate it", and one-way guide students to criticize the police, which is biased in political positions. The school finally publicly apologized for the "misunderstanding" caused by the incident, saying it would improve the wording and the wording in the future.

【事實錯誤】聖芳濟書院中四通識試卷 ​

2017年聖芳濟書院中四一份通識試卷，引用「七警案」期間警察會員特別大會的偏頗資料。該集會於私人地方舉行只限會員及代表參加，不屬於公眾集會，但試卷意有所指稱集會「未有申請《不反對通知書》」，又誣衊指大會期間「有人展示侮辱法官字眼等標語」。集會主辦方及後批評有關引述「全部都是錯」！ ​

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同時，該試卷的提問更是假定了集會「已違反法治精神」，要求學生闡述「如何違反」，單向引導學生批評警察，政治立場偏頗。校方最後對事件引起「誤會」公開致歉，稱以後會改善擬題及用詞。 ​

通識存漏洞 教材渲毒素

 

[hiseen]

I think what China needs is "hard power".
such as:CNMB

 

[Beast]

I agree that China has a lot of room to improve. Right now they are doing a shitty job. Just look at the members here.

The main problem is that they really do not understand other cultures. They have no idea how to appeal to non-Chinese people.

Stop talking nonsense. I have seen enough tactics deploy like u trying to smear all Chinese. If Chinese is really white worshipper. I guess China economy shall not have achieved 2nd largest and near US. Not to mention, most China policy are against US. There are US lackey like Jim Roger worshipped China then I guess all American shall be that? Trying to pinpoint a few minority as majority is old trick deploy by Slayer for many years. I guess u just need to wake up and stop polluting here.

 

[tower9]

Stop talking nonsense. I have seen enough tactics deploy like u trying to smear all Chinese. If Chinese is really white worshipper. I guess China economy shall not have achieved 2nd largest and near US. Not to mention, most China policy are against US. There are US lackey like Jim Roger worshipped China then I guess all American shall be that? Trying to pinpoint a few minority as majority is old trick deploy by Slayer for many years. I guess u just need to wake up and stop polluting here.

I'm not smearing anybody. I am just talking about the truth here. Are you going to deny that Chinese people really hold White people in high esteem and look down on other races? Because it's a fact. Another fact is that Chinese people, because of how insular the country is and how vast it is, have a lot of trouble communicating with, understanding and having relations with other nationalities and races. This is a major reason why China has very low soft power for its size.

I am not pro China or pro US or whatever, I rather just speak facts.

 

[beijingwalker]

Stop talking nonsense. I have seen enough tactics deploy like u trying to smear all Chinese. If Chinese is really white worshipper. I guess China economy shall not have achieved 2nd largest and near US. Not to mention, most China policy are against US. There are US lackey like Jim Roger worshipped China then I guess all American shall be that? Trying to pinpoint a few minority as majority is old trick deploy by Slayer for many years. I guess u just need to wake up and stop polluting here.

He thinks he is white worshipper and takes for granted that all others are white worshippers like himself, pathetic..

 

[Beast]

I'm not smearing anybody. I am just talking about the truth here. Are you going to deny that Chinese people really hold White people in high esteem and look down on other races? Because it's a fact. Another fact is that Chinese people, because of how insular the country is and how vast it is, have a lot of trouble communicating with, understanding and having relations with other nationalities and races. This is a major reason why China has very low soft power for its size.

I am not pro China or pro US or whatever, I rather just speak facts.

Yes, you are insulting many Chinese and generalising. Most Chinese do not admire them just becos they are white but becos of the invention and archievement they attain in past. Ever wonder why 'Fuxing' is such a huge motto in China? Same as ziqiangbuxiu. China has a proven thousand years of rich history to cement their status in the world. Not even great pharoah egypt civilization lasted longer than Chinese.