Capabilities of PAF Dassault MIRAGE-III/V.

[GriffinsRule]

Unless we re-engine the mirages with RD-93 too akin to how South Africa did with their F-1s!!
But on a serious note, they need to be replaced, maybe even before the F-7 PGs.

 

[Sine Nomine]

Theoretically, but only to an extent. PAC doesn't manufacture all of the JF-17 so there are still going to be issues of acquiring finite surplus spare engines, fuselages, etc for the Mirages.

I knew we are manufacturing 58% in house,and i was thinking we are manufacturing fuselage,wings and few avionic components,while rest is coming from CAC.
1)Aren't we are manufacturing JFT fuselages?
2)How much more time we would take to reach upto 100%?

 

[khanasifm]

Unless we re-engine the mirages with RD-93 too akin to how South Africa did with their F-1s!!
But on a serious note, they need to be replaced, maybe even before the F-7 PGs.

Per AFM latest article mirage fuselage has 8000 hours life and wings 2250 hour

Current fleet at 5000-5500 hours only wings are being rebuilt/repaired now at pac

F-7 total life is 2400-2600 hours

Mirages per article may go on another decade, not sure if f7 p /pg can go past even 3000 assuming pac extend it from 24-2600 with another 200 hour as they did for f-6, a-5 and ft5s

Cheers

 

[GriffinsRule]

Per AFM latest article mirage fuselage has 8000 hours life and wings 2250 hour

Current fleet at 5000-5500 hours only wings are being rebuilt/repaired now at pac

F-7 total life is 2400-2600 hours

Mirages per article may go on another decade, not sure if f7 p /pg can go past even 3000 assuming pac extend it from 24-2600 with another 200 hour as they did for f-6, a-5 and ft5s

Cheers

Per the Nov article, the Delta-Mini Ground Visit is being performed on the aircraft will allow them to fly for another 6 years. So I expect them to be phased out by 2025.

 

[denel]

Unless we re-engine the mirages with RD-93 too akin to how South Africa did with their F-1s!!
But on a serious note, they need to be replaced, maybe even before the F-7 PGs.

correction. This was only a POC which is still flying. It was never brought forward into front line operation. It was specifically done to get business of upgrading other countries' F1s. SAAF never inducted or upgraded F1AZ or CZ variants in terms of engines to RD-93.

 

[khanasifm]

Per the Nov article, the Delta-Mini Ground Visit is being performed on the aircraft will allow them to fly for another 6 years. So I expect them to be phased out by 2025.

In the article they specifically mention “ decade”
There can be additional GV if needed as long as part supply exists via new source or use of existing platforms for spares

 

[denel]

In the article they specifically mention “ decade”
There can be additional GV if needed as long as part supply exists via new source or use of existing platforms for spares

Yes but there is only a certain level of maintenance that can be done until it gives up. What is lacking is a dedicate deep strike aircraft replacement such as Su-34/35 or even jh-7.

 

[Windjammer]

A highly modified PAF Mirage with patches of primer.
Wonder if this aircraft is behind the reports of PAF testing some form of RAM coating.

 

[timberwolf]

A highly modified PAF Mirage with patches of primer.
Wonder if this aircraft is behind the reports of PAF testing some form of RAM coating.

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There is no primer coating on this a/c. It is painted in traditional PAF livery. Yellow shading is perhaps due to poor jpeg rendition or poor photoshop.

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Yes but there is only a certain level of maintenance that can be done until it gives up. What is lacking is a dedicate deep strike aircraft replacement such as Su-34/35 or even jh-7.

If AVIC can hold true to its mid-2020s FOC promise then the FC-31 ought to be considered too... as a replacement for the Mirages in the strike role and bridge to PAC's Project Azm fighter (if the two are indeed separate programs).

 

[Army research]

If AVIC can hold true to its mid-2020s FOC promise then the FC-31 ought to be considered too... as a replacement for the Mirages in the strike role and bridge to PAC's Project Azm fighter (if the two are indeed separate programs).

They are separate , azm is a clean sheet design, tho Chinese technical assistance is a great factor , however it's a indigenous project , not jv

 

[haroonn]

There is no primer coating on this a/c. It is painted in traditional PAF livery. Yellow shading is perhaps due to poor jpeg rendition or poor photoshop.

And this appears to be from CCS-Mirage squadron.

 

[Talon]

A highly modified PAF Mirage with patches of primer.
Wonder if this aircraft is behind the reports of PAF testing some form of RAM coating.

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There is no primer coating on this a/c. It is painted in traditional PAF livery. Yellow shading is perhaps due to poor jpeg rendition or poor photoshop.

And this appears to be from CCS-Mirage squadron.

Neither primer nor photoshopped...just some bad quality shot...the picture was taken in karachi at 23rd march flypast.

 

[syed zia Hassan]

As we known that the Mirage III and V rock solid body but the crashed wreckage we seen in Karachi and Punjab .they cut in to thousand piece… and look at the crashed of other Fighter like Jf-17, and F-16s and F-7p, not result like Mirages… what the reasons for that. As I say I simple answer…. Metal is also have estimated life time ..did we consider the Body of Mirages.. we upgrade the Body of Air craft …but not the standard to Dassault Aviation???

 

[SQ8]

A highly modified PAF Mirage with patches of primer.
Wonder if this aircraft is behind the reports of PAF testing some form of RAM coating.

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No RAM coating in prospect or being looked at for any current generation . All research in RAM was limited to the tiles and back in the early 90s.