Capabilities of PAF Dassault MIRAGE-III/V.

[GriffinsRule]

As we known that the Mirage III and V rock solid body but the crashed wreckage we seen in Karachi and Punjab .they cut in to thousand piece… and look at the crashed of other Fighter like Jf-17, and F-16s and F-7p, not result like Mirages… what the reasons for that. As I say I simple answer…. Metal is also have estimated life time ..did we consider the Body of Mirages.. we upgrade the Body of Air craft …but not the standard to Dassault Aviation???

Depends on the speed and the angle of the impact.

 

[The Accountant]

Theoretically, but only to an extent. PAC doesn't manufacture all of the JF-17 so there are still going to be issues of acquiring finite surplus spare engines, fuselages, etc for the Mirages.

Last year PAF was working on updating mirage rebuild factory to use as maintenance workshop for thunder... There were some spares which we were manufacturing for mirrage but procuring them from China for thunder...

A project was initiated to merge the fate of these two projects.... I don't know the current status of the project

 

[Incog_nito]

Is PAC converting old Mirages (non-Rose) into spares?

 

[Sine Nomine]

No RAM coating in prospect or being looked at for any current generation . All research in RAM was limited to the tiles and back in the early 90s.[/QUOTE]
Shed some more light Oscar Sir.

 

[SSGcommandoPAK]

PAF Mirage Compilations by PAF Mirage page FB .
Includes Takeoff , Cockpit , Countermeasure ,maneuvers, bombing , landing etc all in one video .

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[Readerdefence]

PAF Mirage Compilations by PAF Mirage page FB .
Includes Takeoff , Cockpit , Countermeasure ,maneuvers, bombing , landing etc all in one video .

https://www.facebook.com/

Hi very nice and informatic video alas if they would have added air refuelling it will be a complete package very few videos of Pakistani airforce during refuelling their jets
Thanks

 

[Incog_nito]

PAF Mirage Compilations by PAF Mirage page FB .
Includes Takeoff , Cockpit , Countermeasure ,maneuvers, bombing , landing etc all in one video .

https://www.facebook.com/

Love it.

A highly modified PAF Mirage with patches of primer.
Wonder if this aircraft is behind the reports of PAF testing some form of RAM coating.

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Ufff Shit Man Shit... PSP hahaha

Unless we re-engine the mirages with RD-93 too akin to how South Africa did with their F-1s!!
But on a serious note, they need to be replaced, maybe even before the F-7 PGs.

The best thing for Non-Rose Mirages is to be replaced by JF-17s and these Mirages should be converted into spares to support Rose Mirage's Airframes and Engines!

 

[mingle]

Love it.


Ufff Shit Man Shit... PSP hahaha


The best thing for Non-Rose Mirages is to be replaced by JF-17s and these Mirages should be converted into spares to support Rose Mirage's Airframes and Engines!

Theior era is over vintage design and old airframe it's time to give them retirement.

 

[Incog_nito]

Theior era is over vintage design and old airframe it's time to give them retirement.

But Rose has something to offer for a couple of more years!

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Well I never understood the arguments

• Fusalage is difficult to recreate
  
• Wings are hard to copy

This is just a modeller's concept but to imagine it cannpt be replicated with Metals is strange thought the metallic parts like fusalage or wings should be the easiest thing to copy


What kind of unique featues a typical Fusalage needs below is a example (not for mirage)
There is 0% technial challenge in this kind of manufacturing

Even basic crafts man can replicate the fusalage / wings

Looks very simple project for a professional firm, specially if you have a copy in hand

In all honestly ... very simple project for a pro firm dealing with metal


Even private sector would be able to replicate this model copy with few Million tender in Pakistan

 

[The Accountant]

Well I never understood the arguments

• Fusalage is difficult to recreate
  
• Wings are hard to copy

This is just a modeller's concept but to imagine it cannpt be replicated with Metals is strange thought the metallic parts like fusalage or wings should be the easiest thing to copy


What kind of unique featues a typical Fusalage needs below is a example (not for mirage)
There is 0% technial challenge in this kind of manufacturing

Even basic crafts man can replicate the fusalage / wings

Looks very simple project for a professional firm, specially if you have a copy in hand

In all honestly ... very simple project for a pro firm dealing with metal


Even private sector would be able to replicate this model copy with few Million tender in Pakistan

Not really ... These aircrafts have to fly at mach 2 and have to feel pressure upto 9gs and airframe and has to deal with trumendous pressure and temperature of engine ... Even difference in thickness of micro meters will have impact on performance ... Furthermore these are not simple metals but sprcailized alloys cut to extreme accuracy ... Even a difference of less than micro meters can result in airframe failure

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

While what you state is true however , considering you maintain the thickness of sheets all around and do ample testing there is no reason to claim Pakistan cannot manufacture own Fusalage or Wings it is a rediculous claim

Metallic sheets as such are produced which are then conformed to form a curved surface by Engineers

Really folks no Rocket Science , even thou we do make Rockets with same concept in Pakistan but to claim we can't fix up Mirage fusalage is strange claim

Informative good stuff
This is the kind of thing we should have been doing in Steeles Mills which of course is shut down

 

[MastanKhan]

Not really ... These aircrafts have to fly at mach 2 and have to feel pressure upto 9gs and airframe and has to deal with trumendous pressure and temperature of engine ... Even difference in thickness of micro meters will have impact on performance ... Furthermore these are not simple metals but sprcailized alloys cut to extreme accuracy ... Even a difference of less than micro meters can result in airframe failure

Hi,

Why are you arguing with him---you should know what he would post---.

 

[khanasifm]

As long as paf can find spares across the world mirages will keep flying pak has now way of replacing 6 sqn of mirages in one two or three years max one sqn per year same goes for pg

$$$$

 

[khanasifm]

One thing could not figure out when paf bought 30-40 Girifo 3 for mirage 3 upgrade lenardo on its own develop and proposed grifo 5 for mirage 5 but paf did not went for it may be with flir in the nose there was no room but the Flir is actually below in its own housing under the nose not sure if paf even tested it