Capabilities of PAF Dassault MIRAGE-III/V.

[Talon]

CCS Mirages on the go.

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These are actually Zarrars..

 

[Bratva]

For 1000th time, please stop spreading this narrative.F-16s have no such condition,they can fly wherever PAF wants and they can be posted wherever PAF wants, example being deployment of F-16 units during last year's standoff to different air bases.

This is a misleading information spread by Indians and Pakistanis are falling for it like always.

The only restriction that is confirmed is Chinese are not allowed to come close to F16s on ground.


F-7s will retire only when CCS stops using them.

If Sohail Aman was still chief then you could say F-7s will retire by 2025,no disrespect for the current chief but Sohail Aman had a separate vision.

Did you happen to read this news? @araz No doubt PAF and Pakistan can do whatever they want with F-16 but there exist agreements which govern the use/movement of F-16's

State Department Reprimanded Pakistan for Misusing F-16s, Document Shows

A TOP AMERICAN DIPLOMAT sent a written reprimand to the chiefs of the Pakistani air force in August accusing them of misusing U.S.-supplied F-16 fighter jets and jeopardizing their shared security, according to documents obtained by U.S. News

Addressed to the head of the Pakistani air force, Air Chief Marshal Mujahid Anwar Khan, the letter began by relaying the State Department's confirmation that Pakistan had moved the F-16s and accompanying American-made missiles to unapproved forward operating bases in defiance of its agreement with the U.S. Using diplomatic language, Thompson, who has since left government, warned the Pakistanis that their behavior risked allowing these weapons to fall into the hands of malign actors and "could undermine our shared security platforms and infrastructures."

https://www.usnews.com/news/world-r...n-in-august-for-misusing-f-16s-document-shows

 

[Talon]

Did you happen to read this news? @araz No doubt PAF and Pakistan can do whatever they want with F-16 but there exist agreements which govern the use/movement of F-16's

State Department Reprimanded Pakistan for Misusing F-16s, Document Shows

A TOP AMERICAN DIPLOMAT sent a written reprimand to the chiefs of the Pakistani air force in August accusing them of misusing U.S.-supplied F-16 fighter jets and jeopardizing their shared security, according to documents obtained by U.S. News

Addressed to the head of the Pakistani air force, Air Chief Marshal Mujahid Anwar Khan, the letter began by relaying the State Department's confirmation that Pakistan had moved the F-16s and accompanying American-made missiles to unapproved forward operating bases in defiance of its agreement with the U.S. Using diplomatic language, Thompson, who has since left government, warned the Pakistanis that their behavior risked allowing these weapons to fall into the hands of malign actors and "could undermine our shared security platforms and infrastructures."

https://www.usnews.com/news/world-r...n-in-august-for-misusing-f-16s-document-shows

I thought terms are always secret of deals with US but even if its true did it have any affect? At the end we are getting more equipment for F-16s.So imho we are cool as long as Chinese dont come close to the F-16.

 

[Salman876]

You guys are forgetting that the Block 50/52 are no longer being produced. Either the PAF goes for used airframes or goes for new 72's which is a VERY costly route.

Block 72 is cheapest in it's category, we have all infrastructure to handle F-16s

 

[Scorpiooo]

Block 72 is cheapest in it's category, we have all infrastructure to handle F-16s

Any info how much it unit cost for F16 70 or 72 in 2020

 

[Akh1112]

Block 72 is cheapest in it's category, we have all infrastructure to handle F-16s

Sure, theres no denying that.

Any info how much it unit cost for F16 70 or 72 in 2020

Unfortunately not, however from past deals id estimate anywhere from 100m to 125m

 

[Scorpiooo]

Sure, theres no denying that.

Unfortunately not, however from past deals id estimate anywhere from 100m to 125m

In congress presented cost of F35 was around 85 billion for 2020. Then F16 70/72 will less then this.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1X81I5

 

[Akh1112]

In congress presented cost of F35 was around 85 billion for 2020. Then F16 70/72 will less then this.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1X81I5

Yes but, the F-35 benefits from massive economies of scale. The Block 70/72 viper does not. Hence why its costlier.

 

[Salman876]

Yes but, the F-35 benefits from massive economies of scale. The Block 70/72 viper does not. Hence why its costlier.

F16 is also produced in large numbers, it may be cheaper

 

[Incog_nito]

Is PAF open to accept more Mirage IIIs & Vs from ex-operators?

Although we have JF-17s and more new stuff coming soon.

 

[Akh1112]

F16 is also produced in large numbers, it may be cheaper

The Block 72 is not. its very, very different from the 52/og F-16

 

[Incog_nito]

Is PAF open to accept more Mirage IIIs & Vs from ex-operators for using them as spares and even to upgrade some for the strike roles?

Although we have JF-17s that is will be the backbone of PAF.

 

[jupiter2007]

Is PAF open to accept more Mirage IIIs & Vs from ex-operators for using them as spares and even to upgrade some for the strike roles?

Although we have JF-17s that is will be the backbone of PAF.

aren’t we getting mirage V from Egypt?

 

[Scorpiooo]

aren’t we getting mirage V from Egypt?

Apparently seems to be dead deal, Reason unknown

 

[GriffinsRule]

There are very few Mirage III/Vs left out in the world that are in any shape worth buying by the PAF. Egypt might be the last potential source as it operated a decent fleet and kept them in service but these would be very old airframes with lots of hours on them.