Capabilities of PAF Dassault MIRAGE-III/V.

[mingle]

Meteors???

French subsystems probably

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Million $$ question why he is visiting there?? It's two days visit we not gonna buy theior cheese or he gonna eat theior original French toast plus khan won't visit without purpose. My two cents PIA buying new planes but why French ambassador stressing for defence boosts let's see.

Old wine in a new bottle!!! Entice India to buy more!! The French are proud of themselves for their cleverness.....

By the by, the French also are good at "dealings" when the "price is right"!!! And, Pak is the legacy of a very wealthy empire, and they're unlike the Indians who worship the "physical" money...

Pak Bahane, Rafael/Ambani Shahane....

 

[Ali_Baba]

This statement by the French Amabassador is just to get India to spend more.. nothing else.

 

[HRK]

can anybody quote the statement and the source of the statement of French Ambassador ....?

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Thales TopOwl-F HMD/S and MBDA Meteor BVRAAM. That's all I think we could ask for from the French. Thales is one of the few with an available HMD/S product. And France is one of the consortium members of the Meteor.

 

[The Eagle]

I like Italian channel of our interest that surely made them curious as well as soft, if there is bit of juice negating Indian market influence. Beside HMD/S etc for JFT, I see Meteor all the way. An invitation to PM and a visit there after shouldn't be settling for less. Let's the doctrine be utilized.

 

[mingle]

can anybody quote the statement and the source of the statement of French Ambassador ....?

Go sissat.pk I read there his video massage looks like khan spending some money there.

 

[HRK]

Go sissat.pk I read there his video massage looks like khan spending some money there.

plz post the link of video .... I m not the member of siassat.pk

 

[mingle]

plz post the link of video .... I m not the member of siassat.pk

I read on twitter

 

[The Eagle]

plz post the link of video .... I m not the member of siassat.pk

Prime Minister Imran Khan is already invited to attend world peace forum in France on 11th November, 2019. Furthermore, I see some unreliable sources relying on Urdu print media paper that Dr. Marc Barety, says that France is waiting for PM IK visit and both counties can bolster ties in many areas especially Defence cooperation.

 

[Dreamer.]

We will not ask anything from France, that I can assure you. Pak integrated new weapons on Mirages itself, and has capability same as Dassault when it comes to repairing or overhauling these birds.

Even Agosta 90B upgrade was not given to the original French company but to Turks (who had never done such an upgrade before).

France has sold it's very cutting edge tech to India in form of Rafale, Scorpene, MICA etc. Only purchase we made was AS350 Fennecs as no other light helicopter exists that can cope with high altitudes like this one.

France-Pak defence relationship is over and time is right too. Soon China and Turkey combined can offer us everything French can and in a few years better products.

Turkey developing new generation of submarines and we are getting S20 subs from China with AIP

Turkish FX and Chinese FC-31 will bypass Rafael

Turkish/Pak Jinnah class and Chinese Type 054A as good as any French frigates.


Only area France still has cutting edge is engines, EW and missiles. Eventually Turkey, China and Pak will bypass them, already happened in anti-ship missiles. French still strong in surface to air and air to air, but new PL-15 maybe a game changer here.

Just because france is a major defense supplier for India does not mean they can't deal with us aswell. There are many countries that sell defense items to both india and pakistan. That does not mean that indians will not try to create hurdles or there won't be any difficulties but all that is pretty much the case with nearly all other major suppliers of defence equipment. Ultimately I think there are definitely areas where the french can and will work with pakistan if there's money to be made.

However IK's visit doesn't necessarily have to be about defense deals regardless of what the ambassador said. There are other political, diplomatic and trade reasons that are enough for the visit even if there is nothing at all on defense.

 

[SABRE]

French subsystems probably

Most likely yes. Nothing major, just regular small stuff.

Generally speaking, never read too much into ambassadorial statements, unless important antecedent activity has taken place in regard to the statement or until what ambassadors say start to materialize. Sometimes they say things that sound hyped but in reality mean nothing. They have to do their job after all.

But in regard past few statements, it seems we have been shrouded by emotionalism and Franco-phobia of a sort just because France sold Rafale & Scorpene to India. This is no reason to close doors on France, much as this is no reason for them to close doors on Pakistan, and they won't. Let's not forget they offered us Merlin submarine before they offered Scorpene to India. We decided to go for German U-214. In the end, neither subs happened and we instead ended up with the Chinese subs. They also never said no to us for Mirage-2000s or even Rafales, and essentially they still haven't. It's just our inability to buy from them and thereby influencing their foreign policy in our favor. French defence industry being largely driven by capital and commercial interests would offer us advance military technologies whenever we are able muster up dollars. They give a hoot what others think or say. Let's not forget, their avionics and weapons systems could be handy for Project Azm. If Azm ends up capable of carrying only the Chinese avionics and weapons system then its not worth pursuing. Just buy J-31. Azm has to be what JF-17 was supposed to be, a platform capable of incorporating items by diverse suppliers, a mix of Chinese and Western avionics and weapons. Let's remain open to the idea of cooperating with France, just the same we are doing with Italy.

 

[khanasifm]

French ambassador to Pak release video massage today that his Govt is wait IK visit to Paris at Nov 11 and defence relations between Pak and France are very low time to boost them again.
What Pak should expect from France in defence??? Mirage 2000s??@Quwa, @fatman17 @airomerix @MastanKhan

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Is this in news ?

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

IMO IK is clarifying to the world that Pak is going through a comprehensive "regime change" in the line of "Deep Nation + Deep State = A strong Pak"!!! Both friends and foes need to appreciate that the era of Sherifs/Zardaris/Bhuttos etc. - the proxy assassin agents assigned to kill Pak from inside - is 100% over!!! They are as good as dead!!! None of them are "resurrecting" in the next 3 centuries!!! So, Pak is now open for new businesses.....​

 

[mingle]

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Is this in news ?

Yes it's is just asking what products Pak interested I believe if we realy buy European Jett EF is our bett rest as other friends saying probably subsystems