BREAKING: PAF base Mianwali under attack, suicide bombers and heavy weapons in use

[Borderlands]

India may not provide weapons but it heavily invests in TTP, ISIS-K and BRAS propaganda including editing of videos, dissemination of messages, and indoctrination tactics. India also provides SIGINT/ELINT support to terrorists inside Pakistan, which is especially obvious in airbase attacks like Karachi one and this one.

India is not providing any support for TTP &ISIS-K. India is actually arresting and prosecuting Islamists allied with TTP and ISIS-K. Just two weeks ago, NIA arrested and prosecuted some Islamists who sent money to TTP. TTP and ISIS-K are ideological enemies, Baloch fighters on the other hand is different.

https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/karnataka/nia-files-charge-sheet-against-two-accused-for-raising-funds-for-tehreek-e-taliban-pakistan/article67403628.ece/amp/

French translator among two named in NIA charge-sheet for having links with Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan - Times of India

The National Investigation Agency (NIA) has filed a charge sheet against a French translator from Uttar Pradesh and another person for raising funds for Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP). The accused were also charged with attempting to radicalize and recruit Muslim youth in India to join the...

m.timesofindia.com

 

[RescueRanger]

BLA and TTP/Taliban believe in two different ideologies, but they rarely get into each other's way. BLA leaders are living in parts of Afghanistan which are stronghold of Taliban & TTP. It's hard to believe that they don't have a strategic understanding. Many say that BLA leader Basheer Zeb is living in TTP strongholds of Afghanistan, under the protection of Noor wali mahsud. And BLA kit visibly improved significantly after Taliban came to power in Kabul. If you look at all the Majeed Brigade attacks after 2019, they are fully kitted with US weapons origin weapons. In their propaganda videos, they replaced classic Aks with M4s and well kitted.


As for TTP, they arebgetting stronger now. Noor wali Mahsud is a far better leader than the guy before him. He unified almost all fractions and now recruiting Taliban fighters in large numbers. For example, few months ago, a group from Balochistan under Alsam Baloch( Not BLA one) joined TTP. That group was fighting in Afghanistan along side Taliban before the fall of Kabul. That just one example, lots of fighters from Pakistan, previously waging jihad in Afghanistan are joining TTP post Taliban take over. These are the primary driving factor behind the resurgence of TTP, not some sudden Indian involvement.

1. Don’t read too much into M4’s I’ve already explained the reason for this.

2. To understand why from a strategic perspective Talib and BLA can’t coexist one only has to look at this map:

Finally as for TTP, you are sadly mistaken. TTP controls the area past quetta, Pishin and Tank, BLA controls everything south of Chaman Highway and Zhob etc.

What you see as some sort of “alliance” is a marriage of convenience, one which has already been tested to breaking point recently with the words of Nawab Raisani and Nawab Ayub denouncing BLA for their support for TTP, need I remind you that Raisani and Ayub command 10,000 militiamen in Balochistan.

As for foreign funding ample proof is available of foreign funding for both TTP and BLA inside Pakistan.

Now since Afghanistani being deported from the Pakistan, relationship between Taliban and those organizations going to worst only.

The schism between Islamabad and Kabul has more to do with economics than any false sense of neighbourly brotherhood.

Afghanistan will be big business in 20 years, in fact it’s already being carved up by the Talibs as we speak.

 

[kingQamaR]

Let’s be honest on here. Like sending US logistics through Pakistan so Afghan Muslims can be killed? Or droning Pakistanis in tribal areas let’s get real!! Did we honestly think we could escape this carnage they’d not retaliate once their occupier Americans had gone. Learn from this mighty screw up by fighting other peoples wars that you don’t yourself become seen as an invader enemy. Looking to Pakistan s future now, security spies ISI and army stop meddling in internal politics and for Pakistan’s army , imran and his party seem to be a greater concern and an enemy than TTP. Beef up your security, make an exclusion zone a mile or so from these sensitive air bases if that’s possible. Limit any civilian activity near the bases we need a bigger zone between base and populated areas no other way round it shoot anything that comes into it no Man’s zone.

 

[winchester_2]

As expected within one day of this attack and two days after loosing 14 soldiers, the Asim Muneer led Pakistan Army has tried to shift the focus to some tweets and have tried to link them with PTI.

What is the end goal here?

No retrospection on why this happened?

Let alone acknowledging the matyrs.

Anyways what can we expect from an institution that disowned its own in Kargil.

What can we expect from people who hounded, tracked, tortured, murdered a patriot and a brother of a shaheed.

 

[arjunk]

Let’s be honest on here. Like sending US logistics through Pakistan so Afghan Muslims can be killed? Or droning Pakistanis in tribal areas let’s get real!! Did we honestly think we could escape this carnage they’d not retaliate once their occupier Americans had gone

Another big failure of the Pakistani state is countering the narrative that the conflict with Afghanistan started in the soviet days or 9/11 days.

Since day one, Afghanistan has been obsessively working to dismantle Pakistan with more vigour than India could ever dream of.

Afghans are not fighting Pakistan because of our support for US or for some Islamic reason - they have Afghan nationalist Expansionist designs, much like India with its obsession with claiming Gilgit Baltistan and Kashmir.

 

[Mrc]

Defenders ki gup Shap say pta lag jata k koyee nuksaan nahi howa

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

You need a pair of balls for something like that. And sadly this is something that our generals don't have.

You need honest, bold and popular leadership to order the generals to take actions....

A war is too important an affair to leave it entirety to the discretion of the generals...

 

[Jazzbot]

You need honest, bold and popular leadership to order the generals to take actions....

A war is too important an affair to leave it entirety to the discretion of the generals...

The generals in Pakistan are holding the country by the testicles for over 7 decades. So there is literally no one in the country who can challenge or rather question the generals.

 

[Olympus81]

Playing a devil’s advocate here, could the blowback from Good Taliban and bad Taliban stem from the fact that Pakistan has been supporting NATO forces against Taliban until few years ago?

How does the above factor in the animosity the Taliban folks have against Pakistan army?

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Remember what Turkey did in Iraq after a failed attack on some random office? They launched multiple airstrikes within 24 hours.

Pakmil doesn't even fire back at Afghans or Indians at the border anymore.

It was the Interior Ministry. The terrorists were stopped at the guard post...

 

[hussain0216]

Another big failure of the Pakistani state is countering the narrative that the conflict with Afghanistan started in the soviet days or 9/11 days.

Since day one, Afghanistan has been obsessively working to dismantle Pakistan with more vigour than India could ever dream of.

Afghans are not fighting Pakistan because of our support for US or for some Islamic reason - they have Afghan nationalist Expansionist designs, much like India with its obsession with claiming Gilgit Baltistan and Kashmir.

This is where the big argument falls apart


These idiots think that this all started in the 1980s,, that's WHEN PAKISTAN STARTED TO RESPOND

The Afghans have indeed been destroyed by Pakistan screwing them over, but it's happened because a endless afghani desire to attack and destroy Pakistan

So if Pakistan did nothing, the Afghans would still be attacking us

Add to the above all the suicide bombings, mosques attacked, schools attacked, general fassad

And you realize that the AFGHANS NEED TO GO

The afghans are enemies and we need to treat them like enemies, their population is a enemy population inside Pakistan

For too long you let these enemies fester
Spread ethnocentric jahilat
They don't pay taxes
They funnel and smuggle to Afghanistan, hurting Pakistan

Let them to India
Let them go to Afghanistan
Let them go to hell

They afghans, this disgusting namak haram kaum.cant remain in Pakistan


It's Pakistans OWN FOOLISH idea that these Afghan are brothers or fellow Muslims when they hate you that has allowed these evil afghans to spread in Pakistan and cause so much fassad


Accept afghanis as your enemies

 

[Conqueror]

Is there any moderator left here ?
Why this rabid dog let out ?
And the fk are you supposed to say this?

Mods can't stand against their Nation. Pakistan Army and its blunders are too big to hide, mask or save from criticism.

Pakistan Army vs Pakistan, as a mod, guess which side would you defend?

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Kabul must burn!

What you need is targeted strikes with UAVs, Special Forces, pin-point artillery/rocket strikes etc. based on the solid intelligence from the ground....

 

[kingQamaR]

Another big failure of the Pakistani state is countering the narrative that the conflict with Afghanistan started in the soviet days or 9/11 days.

Since day one, Afghanistan has been obsessively working to dismantle Pakistan with more vigour than India could ever dream of.

Afghans are not fighting Pakistan because of our support for US or for some Islamic reason - they have Afghan nationalist Expansionist designs, much like India with its obsession with claiming Gilgit Baltistan and Kashmir.

There’s no denying brother our role in 9/11 was the biggest recruiter. Prior that we never had awful suicide bombings anywhere in Pakistan we see now every day. On the Afghans scum were anti Pakistani we’ve known this from the start. . But how do we then explain the marginalising and alienating of our tribal areas during 9/11 to the extent people are in armed rebellion? Something has happened to our people in this part country there they’ve not just miraculously woken up one morning and picked up guns against the state they were so loyal for.

 

[Enigma SIG]

To defeat this enemy you must first cut off the head of the snake. That is a difficult task.

Snakes are mere proxies. The hyenas are the ones pulling the strings, and they're at GHQ.