Bahrain Airshow: What to expect? Tejas vs JF-17

[knight11]

i dont read links, i am extreamly lazy, heck i dont bother having capital letters on my posts

So its from Banglore to >> Jamnagar base >> Muskat >> UAE Bahrain

 

[Blue Marlin]

So its from Banglore to >> Jamnagar base >> Muskat >> UAE Bahrain

geeze i said i was lazy not retarded

 

[Foxtrot-Bravo]

Surely you will have that, because according to the test pilot after display in India, he said that he didn't pull the fighter much, and wanted to show that it is agile little bit. ADA is going to open the envelop aka software restriction and all changes required for the FBW restrictions will be done before the show. It will a good exposure to the ADA, to an international airshow. Heard that the maneuver involved will be sharp criss cross and flip back outmaneuver.

Written by: Dr Anantha Krishnan M

Bengaluru, Dec 08: Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas is throttling to script history probably by becoming the first home-grown Indian fighter jet to have flown outside the country's airspace. If no last-minute glitches (from babudom or technical) get onboard, then Tejas will strut its stuff at the 4th edition of Bahrain International Air Show (BIAS), scheduled from January 21-23, 2016. BIAS-2016 is being held at the Sakhir Airbase.

... There are many nagging issues that need to be sorted out, including which country it would stop over during ferry to Bahrain," says an official. ....

Tejas was on static display at BIAS- 2014, with India's prying plane AEW&C (Airborne Early Warning Control) hitting the skies. DRDO had then claimed that the products were displayed with ‘the aim of exploring the potential of exporting them to friendly countries in the region.'

... Flight-testing envelope will be expanded Ahead of the Bahrain trip, Tejas is expected to expand the flight envelope clearance to 8G and at a higher Alpha of 24 degrees and more. "

Read more at: http://www.oneindia.com/india/tejas-may ... 50118.html


@PARIKRAMA @Abingdonboy @dadeechi @gslv mk3 @MilSpec

Brother what is the motive of this participating in an international airshow

1. ADA/DRDO is showcasing LCA in Bahrain, but a 25Million question is who should market tejas MK1 or MK2 -- ADA/DRDO or HAL or GOI -- In my view it should be HAL who should be doing the marketing as ADA is just the R&D agency and HAL have more exposure and experience in aviation exports and they are the one who are going to give the spares and support.

2. India never have the export in mind, so presence in this airshow is just to register the presence or now its the DRDO who is eyeing the profit with the export.

3. What is the role of IAF or INAF if India decided to market the LCA Tejas aka HAL Tejas.

Team LCA gears up for increased orders
Chethan Kumar,TNN | Dec 11, 2015, 06.43 AM IST

BENGALURU: From imported robotic machine to drill holes to Bengaluru based 3D printing of components, Team LCA is gearing up for increased orders for the Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas for the Indian Air Force.

With IAF increasing its order of LCAs forcing HAL to manufacture 108 aircraft for six squadrons, the defence PSU is scaling up quality and speed.

A robotic drilling machine in the final assembly hangar has reduced the time taken to drill a hole on the wing skin to just over a minute from 25-35 minutes it took manually.

The machine, which needs to drill around 8,000 holes, can manage 66% with the remaining done manually. "That will change soon; we'll soon have more efficiency," LCA division general manager V Sridharan told TOI. HAL is using Bengaluru-based 3D printing for some components. "A proposal to acquire such a printer is being prepared but now, we're outsourcing it," he said.

Sources in HAL said given the Centre's Make in India campaign and to save on time, outsourcing some manufacturing has happened and a few other projects are in the pipeline. The wing assembly has been outsourced to L&T, while 10 vendors will be in the fray for the centre and rear fuselage, for which tenders will be floated soon. "Outsourcing of 33 electrical panels, six mechanical assembly projects making of fin and rudder, etc is under way," they said.

Stating that the second Series Production Tejas is in the final stages of assembly and will be ready for IAF in the next 45 days, Sridharan said: "By the fourth or fifth aircraft, we should be able further reduce the time."

Earlier this year, HAL handed over an aircraft to the IAF, which is undergoing some changes. The second in the series is almost ready . To enhance the rate of production, HAL had late last year sent a proposal to the defence ministry for setting up a second production line.A senior official said the ministry is likely to clear it by February .

HAL has invested Rs 150 crore for capacity augmentation. According to the proposal, HAL is expected to invest 50% of the Rs 1,200-crore estimated cost, while the IAF and the Navy will invest 25% each.

It would be great fun watching Tejas then, thanks for the update mate.

 

[Imtiaz_Sarwar]

It looks like Bahrain Air show will be impressive,

 

[Chanakyaa]

F22 and , F15E and B1 to be present.. wow.

 

[Sinnerman108]

Anything the LCA would do will be new to spectators and therefore be impressive (to an extent of course) by default. However, people have already seen the JF-17 many times before at air shows.
Hence, to impress the audience, the PAF will have to perform something completely radical.

precisely my thoughts,
and i believe this is where PAF may make a mistake.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Any official statement from PAF on participation yet?
If it was happening then our support crew should have arrived there by now

There are rumors JF-17 will not participate in Bahrain airshow.

Who told you that?
I know there is no press release but that's it
Any way a great disappointment as a fan

 

[Chanakyaa]

Any official statement from PAF on participation yet?
If it was happening then our support crew should have arrived there by now


Who told you that?
I know there is no press release but that's it
Any way a great disappointment as a fan

JF17 is till on the Confirmed List.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

JF17 is till on the Confirmed List.

thanks for that and best wishes to maiden Tejas outing.
hope both planes do well there and return back safely and happy with good accomplishments and memories

I will be waiting for mocking and sarcastic remarks by western commentators. they always make me happy because I can sense their hatred and jealousy and a bit of anger that how dare the third word countries enter their exclusive turfs

 

[SSGcommandoPAK]

The Jf-17s have Chinese made sniper pods , does the Tejas have any tech like that for precise attacks and Accuracy , All Pakistani F-16s have sniper pods , so do all the Jf-17s ..
And i would like to ask does the Tejas have in-built refilling probe ??

 

[MilSpec]

The Jf-17s have Chinese made sniper pods , does the Tejas have any tech like that for precise attacks and Accuracy , All Pakistani F-16s have sniper pods , so do all the Jf-17s ..
And i would like to ask does the Tejas have in-built refilling probe ??

Litening III Pod on Tejas LCA Mk1

IFR

 

[VCheng]

thanks for that and best wishes to maiden Tejas outing.
hope both planes do well there and return back safely and happy with good accomplishments and memories

I will be waiting for mocking and sarcastic remarks by western commentators. they always make me happy because I can sense their hatred and jealousy and a bit of anger that how dare the third word countries enter their exclusive turfs

Sir, any happiness before the engines are indigenously made would be quite premature.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

The Jf-17s have Chinese made sniper pods , does the Tejas have any tech like that for precise attacks and Accuracy , All Pakistani F-16s have sniper pods , so do all the Jf-17s ..
And i would like to ask does the Tejas have in-built refilling probe ??

Pre FOC Tejas in production will not have refueling probe. Everything after will.

LCA has listening pod.

 

[knight11]

The Jf-17s have Chinese made sniper pods , does the Tejas have any tech like that for precise attacks and Accuracy , All Pakistani F-16s have sniper pods , so do all the Jf-17s ..
And i would like to ask does the Tejas have in-built refilling probe ??

Litening III Pod on Tejas LCA Mk1

IFR

LCA Tejas has Litening Pod-2 not litening Pod - 3 form Elbitis, Israel. Litening Pod-3 is better for Planes lime MKI.

The IFR is retractable one not proluding or fixed IFR means it will be hidden in the airframe, and comes out during airborne refuelling like jaguar and will be supplied by COBHAM, UK. It will be available in FOC. The fixed IFR was fitted in LCA for training purpose, shown in the picture above by @MilSpec (P,S pardon my ignorance if any)

 

[dadeechi]

LCA Tejas has Litening Pod-2 not litening Pod - 3 form Elbitis, Israel. Litening Pod-3 is better for Planes lime MKI.

The IFR is retractable one not proluding or fixed IFR means it will be hidden in the airframe, and comes out during airborne refuelling like jaguar and will be supplied by COBHAM, UK. It will be available in FOC. The fixed IFR was fitted in LCA for training purpose, shown in the picture above by @MilSpec (P,S pardon my ignorance if any)

This is one area where I do not like RAFALE. I still do not understand why the French did not bother about retractable one. Do not know how it impacts the RCS & performance but surely impacts the beauty. May be they were worried about the maintenance/safety issues.

@PARIKRAMA @Abingdonboy @FrenchPilot @mike2000 is back