Neither JF-17 nor Tejas: Argentina stops fighter jet tender

[Chandragupt Maurya]

You should not worried Tejas too much

Domestic order from Indian Air Force has already made HAL feel overburden. India has large Air Force, domestic demand is enough to feed the production line.

I read somewhere HAL is still unable to pace with the order, the production line is not fast enough to fulfil order from Indian Air Force. If they deliver the plane late, then the company will get penalty and loss its revenue

It’s a myth , HAL can produce 48 aircrafts per year if there is order

Tejas MkII: ADA/HAL expects Bulk orders to maintain high production rates – Indian Defence Research Wing

idrw.org

 

[Indos]

It’s a myth , HAL can produce 48 aircrafts per year if there is order

Tejas MkII: ADA/HAL expects Bulk orders to maintain high production rates – Indian Defence Research Wing

idrw.org

How about those Sukhoi modernization program ? Most assembling facility I believe has already been used for this program

 

[Chandragupt Maurya]

How about those Sukhoi modernization program ? Most assembling facility I believe has already been used for this program

Delays happen because Indian airforce keeps adding new requirements otherwise it’s not a big deal to ramp up the production but it won’t happen anymore because Tejas has matured over a period of 6 years since 2016 when it was first inducted in IAF
The technologies which has been developed as a result of Tejas program will also help upgrading Su30
Russian component in Sukhoi has to be replaced with Indian ones including the Radar
They will use upscaled version of UTTAM AESA Radar of Tejas in Sukhoi these very same upgrades have been offered to all Su30 operating countries

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Well add France to the skip list

 

[Baburfromsarmarkand]

Well most of the moeny would have gone to China anyway, everyone knows it an FC1. Fighter China 1.

 

[Trailer23]

JF-17 or Tejas..looks like neither was considered a good choice for Argentina

Argentine president Alberto Fernandez has said the country is not going to purchase any military aircraft for the time being, pulling the plug on a fighter jet tender that pitted the Chinese-Pakistani JF-17 Thunder against India’s HAL Tejas and the US-made F-16.

Pretty quick to point out towards the JF-17 & that Tejas..., but for some reason you left out the US-made F-16 in your opening comments.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Pretty quick to point out towards the JF-17 & that Tejas..., but for some reason you left out the US-made F-16 in your opening comments.

The US didn't offer them any new F-16's. The US said if they wanted some used planes...we may think about it.

Argentine Air Force mission in Denmark considering purchase of F-16 warplanes

A team from the Argentine Air Force is in Denmark reviewing the possibility of purchasing F-16 A/B MLU fighter-bomber jets from that country in the last assessment round before a decision on the matter is made no later than 2023.

en.mercopress.com

Besides we are letting the British make the decision

Britain will 'buy' Argentina either MiG-35 or JF-17 or F-16

MiG-35, JF-17 or F-16 - Argentina needs new fighters. In this way, the Air Force will modernize its inventory and increase its combat capability in the air.

bulgarianmilitary.com

Great Britain will be the one to “buy” Argentina’s fighter. The decision of politicians in London will open the door to a well-known Western technology, or an Eastern unknown one. Perhaps British politicians, or some of them, will see that “Conservatism for the sake of the past” can play a bad joke in the future, not at the regional level, but at the international level.

 

[Horse_Rider]

JF-17 or Tejas..looks like neither was considered a good choice for Argentina

No JF-17, no Tejas: Argentina stops fighter jet tender - AeroTime

Argentina’s heated fighter jet tender, which pitted the Pakistani-Chinese JF-17 against the Indian Tejas, has been cancelled

www.aerotime.aero

Argentine president Alberto Fernandez has said the country is not going to purchase any military aircraft for the time being, pulling the plug on a fighter jet tender that pitted the Chinese-Pakistani JF-17 Thunder against India’s HAL Tejas and the US-made F-16.

“Argentina has to allocate its resources to more important things than the purchase of military aircraft. We are in a very unequal continent, but there are no war problems and unity among countries is sought,” Fernandez said in an a video interview to FT.

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Argentina will get used F-16's or French aircraft! Bookmark my post and thank me for this info when it becomes true!

 

[RescueRanger]

JF-17 or Tejas..looks like neither was considered a good choice for Argentina

No JF-17, no Tejas: Argentina stops fighter jet tender - AeroTime

Argentina’s heated fighter jet tender, which pitted the Pakistani-Chinese JF-17 against the Indian Tejas, has been cancelled

www.aerotime.aero

Argentine president Alberto Fernandez has said the country is not going to purchase any military aircraft for the time being, pulling the plug on a fighter jet tender that pitted the Chinese-Pakistani JF-17 Thunder against India’s HAL Tejas and the US-made F-16.

“Argentina has to allocate its resources to more important things than the purchase of military aircraft. We are in a very unequal continent, but there are no war problems and unity among countries is sought,” Fernandez said in an a video interview to FT.

The excerpt with the quote has since been reposted by Fernandez’s Twitter account.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1600567868004786177

Argentina’s choices​

In 2021, the Argentine government allocated $684 million for the purchase of supersonic combat aircraft in order to reinvigorate the country’s aging air force fleet.

Preliminary reports indicated that four options were being considered: the Lockheed Martin F-16 Fighting Falcon, the joint Chinese-Pakistani CAC/PAC JF-17 Thunder, the Indian-made HAL Tejas and the MiG-35, manufactured by Russia’s UAC.

Later reports indicated that the MiG-35 had been rejected and that the Argentine military was cross-evaluating the F-16, the JF-17 and the Tejas.

The JF-17 was often quoted as the strongest candidate for the purchase. In September 2021 a budget draft surfaced from the Executive branch of the Argentine government, mentioning the possible purchase of the JF-17. This spurred speculation that the Chinese-Pakistani offer had been successful.

In November 2022, Sabino Vaca Narvaja, the Argentine ambassador in Beijing, met with the representatives of China National Aero-Technology Import & Export Corporation (CATIC) and discussed the possible purchase of the JF-17, implying that it held pole position in the tender process.

It should be noted that during negotiations the aircraft was often referred to by its Chinese designation, AVIC FC-1 Xiaolong. In addition, Pakistani representatives were not present in the meeting, lending credibility to earlier reports that Argentina is seeking to collaborate with China directly and organize the assembly of the aircraft at home, taking Pakistan’s place in the co-production process.

A search for alternatives​

Argentina has long struggled to modernize its air force, which suffered losses during the Falklands War with the United Kingdom in 1982.

After a domestic program to design a fourth-generation fighter jet failed, Argentina turned to foreign suppliers. However, many of its options were blocked due to the UK boycotting the sale of any aircraft component manufactured by a British company, as well as interference in talks with France and Israel.

The latest attempts to purchase South Korean-made KAI FA-50 light fighter suffered the same fate, with at least six of FA-50’s components – including the ejection seats – being made in the UK.

In the cases of the Tejas, HAL has said that it can manufacture the aircraft without British parts, while the FC-1/JF-17 is reportedly to have no such components. UK officials have since claimed that the sale of the F-16 would have met no British resistance.

Currently, the Argentine Air Force uses a number of domestically manufactured FMA IA-63 Pampa jet trainers, as well as a small fleet of heavily upgraded Lockheed Martin A-4AR Fightinghawk ground attack aircraft that are reportedly facing significant parts shortages.

Lockheed Martin A-4AR Fightinghawk - Wikipedia

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