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[KRAIT]

dude, you cannot UNFOUGHT the war, like again, you go into a casino with $5,000 sollar in your pocket, after a few black jack, you get $10,000 from the casino, but in the end of the day, you lost all 15,000. Can you, at this point, ask the casino, "HEY, CAN YOU GIVE ME BACK MY 5,000 AND CALL IT EVEN??"
You choose to attack first, you lost, you cannot have your land back, even it is a big concession the Israel willing to accept a state of palestine, but asking them to return the land they occupied when you attack first is almost impossible.

Israel was ready to give back the land before Sharon was out of the power but Palestinian thought Israel is getting weak so then they asked for more.

 

[VCheng]

So tell me where is UN, Palestine was divide into 2 Countries why till date Palestine isn't recognized as a country in UN by west. And how can after going to war by Arabs abrogate or delete the resolution of division of A Country into 2 Countries and not recognized Palestine anymore and recognize israel, give free hand to israel to occupy 80% land from Palestine.
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Sarey jahan kee fikr hey
Apnay ghar kee khabar nahi

Why not concentrate on making Pakistan strong and stable first and foremost?

 

[KRAIT]

Sarey jahan kee fikr hey
Apnay ghar kee khabar nahi

Why not concentrate on making Pakistan strong and stable first and foremost?

Answer to this was given by a Pakistani member. Hope he will post it again. It was brilliant one. I think you know it.

 

[Luftwaffe]

jhungary; Are you sure? by your logic Kuwait should belong to Iraq since Iraq was in possession of the land what was US pain to liberate why did it not accept it as Iraq's land.

Yes All occupied lands must be returned. Use logic man.

 

[KRAIT]

jhungary; Are you sure? by your logic Kuwait should belong to Iraq since Iraq was in possession of the land what was US pain to liberate why did it not accept it as Iraq's land.

Yes All occupied lands must be returned. Use logic man.

Sir you think, if Israel returns the occupied land, Hamas and other Palestinians will stop there. No, they won't. History also says the same. They will think it as a victory and will increase their attacks to get entire land.

Use common sense. No one wants to take chance as there is too much trust deficit. Israel can't give back the land and expect Hamas will stop its attacks.

 

[Luftwaffe]

Sarey jahan kee fikr hey
Apnay ghar kee khabar nahi

Why not concentrate on making Pakistan strong and stable first and foremost?

O bhai we are discussing on this Thread now you want Pakistanis to stop discussion Threads. C'mon man don't ruin Threads by bringing Pakistan everywhere. I did not even mention Pakistan I am discussing half baked flawed UN resolution.

 

[VCheng]

jhungary; Are you sure? by your logic Kuwait should belong to Iraq since Iraq was in possession of the land what was US pain to liberate why did it not accept it as Iraq's land.

Yes All occupied lands must be returned. Use logic man.

So how far back do you want to apply this logic? Why not recreate the Ottoman Empire? 1945 or some other year and date? Who gets to choose it, and how and why?

 

[airmarshal]

The champion of Human Rights and freedom of speech, liberty and everything that you can think of, has said that Israel has a right to defend itself.

Its another thing that Palestinians dont even have a right to exist.

 

[jhungary]

jhungary; Are you sure? by your logic Kuwait should belong to Iraq since Iraq was in possession of the land what was US pain to liberate why did it not accept it as Iraq's land.

Yes All occupied lands must be returned. Use logic man.

Apples and Oranges.......

One is a state who was invaded and attacked by another sovereignty, the UN attack and destroy the Iraq force shall restore the whole of Kuwait away form Iraqi hand.

The other one is a share settlement situation, both claim original owner to the land, and both have points, yet one part (Palestine) did not agree and wanted more, and lost, and you now want all the land to be gain by israel to be return?

I would say they will return up to the point of war 1973 or 1968, but they will never revert to the 1948 line as somebody don't want to play nice first.

 

[jhungary]

Israel was ready to give back the land before Sharon was out of the power but Palestinian thought Israel is getting weak so then they asked for more.

Israel is not as unreasonable as most Arab think, I think after Egypt regonise Israel, they returned Sinai peninsula to Egypt. If Palestine did the same i am sure they will be compensated, but the fact is, Palestine don't, and they still want it all.

However, i maintained that there are no way israel will revert to 1948 border as today israel is bigger then when it was in 1948 and at least part of it was palestine own fault..

 

[Cloakedvessel]

lanat on terrorist Israel and their terrorists sympathizers.

Why would you post a picture of an Israeli baby, that was hurt due to a rocket attack from Palestinian extremists, and blame it on Israel?

Honest mistake, victim of propaganda?

Anyway, outsiders from one party (Arabs, Pakistanis, Muslims in general), or the other (Americans, Indians etc.) only fuel the issue further by putting forward a staunch and firm stand in either direction, while only a position that is furthest from the edges will bring peace.

 

[faithfulguy]

Palestinian are not interest in peace with Israel. Every negotiation goal is just another starting point to ask for more until Israel is wipe out of the map. Now, here comes the support of the Egyptian Muslim brotherhood and its American sympathizer that recently just got reelected for 4 more years.

 

[Cloakedvessel]

This is an authentic map, posted many times.

This is indeed a genius map of disinformation and possible deception. Especially the first one is not so easy to recognize as such. The first map does only show us the area's where either the Jews or the Arabs are mostly concentrated. But in the case of the Arabs, the deserts where no one lives are included. You need to look at the proportion of Arabs and Jews to uncover the real picture.


It was our mistake, says Palestinian chief

President Mahmoud Abbas has expressed regret, in a frank interview, for the lost opportunity that was the 1947 United Nations plan to partition Palestine, writes Amy Teibel in Jerusalem.

The Palestinian President, in a remarkable assessment delivered on Israeli TV, says the Arab world erred in rejecting the United Nations' 1947 plan to partition Palestine into a Palestinian and a Jewish state.

The Palestinian and Arab refusal to accept a UN plan to partition the then British-controlled mandate of Palestine sparked widespread fighting then Arab military intervention after Israel declared independence the following year. The Arabs lost the war.

''It was our mistake. It was an Arab mistake as a whole,'' Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas told Channel 2 TV on Friday, in a rare interview to the Israeli media.

''But do they [the Israelis] punish us for this mistake 64 years?''

Read more: It was our mistake, says Palestinian chief

 

[iPhone]

How Indians defend Zionist aggression, it never stops to amaze me.

Well, that's cuz they are Hindu bigots who support and cheer any non Muslim aggression against any Muslim nation or community. Goes to show you how they truly feel about Muslims living around them, too.

 

[iPhone]

Sarey jahan kee fikr hey
Apnay ghar kee khabar nahi

Why not concentrate on making Pakistan strong and stable first and foremost?

Yes, but concentrating and focusing on Pakistan first and foremost doesn't mean one shouldn't even look around the rest of the world and not be concerned with what's happening at international stage. I mean, heavens forbid if an average Pakistani is concerned with something unrelated to Pakistan.