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Arjun mk II ready for trial!

i was just wondering why did DRDO choose to make such a heavy tank in the first place??
any specific reason for this??
coz BIGGER is better...

in real .. T - 90 was designed for russian terrains ... it can work both in hilly reasons and plains...

but Arjun is made for specially for Indian Pak border ... with pressure lower on ground than other tanks in service of Indian Army ... so IA can use T-90 in moderate hills of Arunachal Pradesh and in northern hilly states that border Tibet
 
coz BIGGER is better...

in real .. T - 90 was designed for russian terrains ... it can work both in hilly reasons and plains...

but Arjun is made for specially for Indian Pak border ... with pressure lower on ground than other tanks in service of Indian Army ... so IA can use T-90 in moderate hills of Arunachal Pradesh and in northern hilly states that border Tibet

No, T-90s can go on desert terrains..

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Do we have something like the EMT-7 electromagnetic pulse which was tested on T72 and T90.

EMT-7 is a Russian electromagnetic countermine system for clearing minefields and defense against magnetic mines and enemy armor. It projects an electromagnetic pulse to detonate antitank mines and disrupt electronics before the tank reaches them.


While enough protection is provided to the Arjun..what is the need of a sloped armour ?
I think it could have helped us in making a smaller design without compromising with the safety.

No, T-90s can go on desert terrains..
Yeah, but they face heating problems over the desert areas.

Arjun mkII will not see any change in the design and weight will increase because of armour and all. I am not sure about the 1500 hp engine. Are we buying the engine from someone else ?/ because its a small time frame there's no way they could have developed an engine so quickly or that project was going on for years.

Whatever is the case but if these trials does not include the 1500 hp engine then the whole story will change because you cannot check a tank without its actual engine although we can test other features but its really important to test the engine.
 
Despite two years of labour, the Army's tank managers, the Directorate General of Mechanised Forces (DGMF), have been unable to decide on a suitable design.

Several of these experts told Business Standard that the DGMF’s problems stem from its decision to start designing a tank all over again. Instead of building on two decades of experience in designing the indigenous Arjun tank, by moving onto an advanced version of the Arjun, the Army is going back to the start line.

Experts at the seminar — including Israeli tank legend, Maj Gen Yossi Ben-Hanan, who designed that country’s successful Merkava tank — pointed out that tank design is evolutionary, each design building upon the previous one.

The Israelis began designing their Merkava-1 MBT in 1970; today they have the world-class Merkava-4. The Russians started in 1940 with the T-32 tank; that experience led to the T-55; the T-72 followed, which was further refined to today’s T-90.

India has rejected this well-tested path. The Combat Vehicles R&D Establishment (CVRDE) in Chennai, which has designed the Arjun, is now offering an improved Arjun-2 with more modern electronics. But last month, the Army’s top tank-man, Lt Gen D Bhardwaj, trashed two decades of indigenous design work on the Arjun; he declared that the Army would buy just 124 Arjuns for its 4,000-tank fleet. On July 23, Maj Gen Yossi Ben-Hanan warned the audience, "A decision taken today to build an Indian tank will yield an MBT only 15 years hence."

And for those 15 years, Russia is poised to fill the Indian inventory, just as it has for the last 35 years. It is learned that Moscow has seriously violated the 2001 contract to supply India with 310 Russian-built T-90s and then transfer the technology, materials and components to build another 1,000 in India.

Seven years after that contract was signed, not a single T-90 has rolled out of Heavy Vehicles Factory (HVF), Avadi, where they are to be built. Senior MoD sources tell that Russia has failed to provide India with critical technologies and components needed for T-90 manufacture.

Russia has not been sued for this breach of contract; instead it has been rewarded. Last December, India ordered 347 more fully-built T-90s. A senior MoD officer dealing directly with purchases points out that this will delay the indigenous manufacture of T-90s even further, since the Russian plant cannot transfer any components or materials until it meets the fresh Indian order.

Meanwhile, the 310 T-90s, which have been delivered by Russia and introduced into service, are not battle worthy. The crucial Fire Control System (FCS), through which the tank fires at the enemy, has failed to function in Indian summers. An obliging Russian industry offered to sell India "tank air conditioners", though no other tank in our inventory needs or uses air-conditioning.

The Russian air-conditioners were put through trials, during which the tank driver fainted from heatstroke. Now the MoD has floated a global tender for air-conditioning the T-90s



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Stumbled upon this article today! this must be quite old
 
Seven years after that contract was signed, not a single T-90 has rolled out of Heavy Vehicles Factory (HVF), Avadi, where they are to be built.

How old is this article ??// Just type something on google check out the latest updates. Just to summarize:
The first batch of 10 license built T-90M "Bhishma" was inducted into the Indian army on 24 August 2009. These vehicles were built at the Heavy Vehicles Factory at Avadi, Tamil Nadu.
 
How come they don't employ sloped armour ?

Like other many tanks.
Ceramic layers dont work well when they are sloped. Thats why Abrams does not have a slopped armor as well. Arjun's turret looks even more thick than Abrams' by the way.
 
Ceramic layers dont work well when they are sloped. Thats why Abrams does not have a slopped armor as well. Arjun's turret looks even more thick than Abrams' by the way.
Agreed but still Arjun looks ugly... and its too heavy not to mention mkII will much heavier.
 
Agreed but still Arjun looks ugly... and its too heavy not to mention mkII will much heavier.
Centurion was much more havy than T-55, Abrams was much more havy than T-72 but both kicked ***. ;)
 
Ceramic layers dont work well when they are sloped. Thats why Abrams does not have a slopped armor as well. Arjun's turret looks even more thick than Abrams' by the way.

The Merk has sloped turret ,so what type of armor does it use??
 

Arjuna is very potent machine but it has little drawback..
1. In punjab muddy fields the mobility of heavy tank is questionable. (T90 is good for it)
2. Arjuna is better at desert, Its not better for high altitude,(even bhisma, T90 is not ood for that, so we are making Tank-Ex)
3. To carry Arjuna, India is planning to buy new carrier planes.
4. Its a potent platform on which further design can be done.
5. Once it is face to face with enemy, only god can save the enemy, It has good firepower and protection combination.
 
ARJUN MK 2 should have trophy APS and KAKTUS 1 ERA in frontal section. DRDO is already planning 1500 hp engine for ARJUN.
 
Centurion was much more havy than T-55, Abrams was much more havy than T-72 but both kicked ***.
You are kidding right, you want to compare with T-55(37 tonne + WWII era eapon). As per Abrams is concerned, yeah it would be closed to them, actually more heavier than them.
Also tanks are made as per the countries terrain. Arjun is very heavy to work many parts of the country. Apart from this the width is too much, which creates the problem when transported via trains and weight is also a concern again in transportation.
 
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