I'm not counting the expats bro .. I'm talking about our national teams n medalists .. When given the support they have done miracles .. Apart from our cricket team there is literally no support to others .. They either finance themselves or the play for military teams...It's the same with all Arab countries basically. Incompetence, corruption, lack of facilities, unrest (nobody cares about some sports in situation like those or when they need to feed their family) etc.
Yet we have dozens upon dozens of Arabs that are winning Olympic Gold medals for Western countries, South American, US etc. teams in all sports and world famous football players playing for the best football clubs and winning Champions League titles, World Cups (Khedira just won recently with Germany) etc. Same with athletics, boxing etc. Although some Arab countries have won quite a few gold medals at the Olympics in athletic disciplines.
Well, countries like UAE, Qatar etc. have world class facilities but the problem is that they don't have a very big talent mass. I mean the locals in those two countries make up 2-3 million people in total. That's nothing. You have limits with that population. No matter how good facilities that you have.
I have no doubt that Muslim countries would be much more successful in sports had they had the same facilities like in Europe and the West. Or extreme training regimes like China etc. and such countries. But once again they have 1.3 billion people to chose from and even compared to their population their records are rather poor.
Pakistan has a lot of potential because you have a huge talent mass (potentially) to chose from due to your population and your expat population could also help and spread the techniques, system etc. they learned/are used to from the West and that gave them success.
But frankly we have many more problems to worry about than sports. I wish we could just focus on that though, LOL.
Another successful Muslim from the UK (boxing):
No way would he have had the same success in his country of origin, LOL.
PS: I am a big fan of Amir Khan!
PPS: Can you watch Youtube in Pakistan again?
Yes, I know that Pakistan has been successful when it comes to hockey and your national sport cricket on a international scale.
It's just that the percentage of your successful expats are bigger and we know the reasons for that. It's the same with the Arab world and every Muslim country. We discussed it already after all.
Do you use proxies then? It's a shame that we cannot share Youtube clips here in general.
Why did your change your avatar? The other was awesome, LOL.
Only if we had resources like the oil rich states man ..
Even to download proxies etc we have to use other proxies bcoz most of the good ones are also banned .. View attachment 40128
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The closest to Arabs would be from the coastal areas of Pakistan. Baluchistan and Sindh.I have always been of the opinion that Baluch and Pashtun people are the closest to Arabs (and other ME people) in terms of look, attire and culture than other ethnic groups of Pakistan such as Sindhi, Mujahir or Punjabi people.
Aside from being closer geographically and having more contact with ME people.
That man on your avatar could look like a traditional tribal in many pats of the Arab world. In Oman were many Baluch people live it is very hard to tell them apart from locals now when they are not wearing their traditional clothing at special occasions.
A Sindhi and Punjabi is usually much easier to stop due to their more foreign looks.
It's just from personal observation, interaction, reading history etc. I have even seen Baluch and Pashtun people write the same here on PDF and elsewhere.
Arab tribals:
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@Desert Fox
Do you agree with this as well as a Pashtun my friend?
PS:
Biblical-like figures for the win!
Really? Like the about 1000-1500 Arab families in Afghanistan? No, I am not talking about the few thousands Arabs and other Muslims that helped give the Soviets an ***-beating.
History of Arabs in Afghanistan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I think that I once read that many of those families still speak Arabic as their mother tongue. Also there once lived many Arabs in Central Asia (Uzbekistan mainly) that migrated to Afghanistan when the Soviets arrived. They are apparently very much respected in Afghanistan where they mainly live among Pashtuns and Tajiks.
Our expert in Arab history and Chinese friend @Wholegrain once made a very interesting thread about Central Asian Arabs with dozens links and amazing footage. It was very interesting to see.
Anyway that's interesting mate.
But Siddi people are descendants of slaves (mostly from Horn of Africa) that the Portuguese and Omanis brought to Southern Pakistan and Iran as they controlled those lands back then.
Siddi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I saw some Pakistani users call them Arabs once, LOL.
